***Unpopular Opinions***

[mustloveerica]

Jan 21, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5 pinkcat said:

I have to add that my UO above was not at all directed to the normal husband venting I just now saw in the Thursday randoms. What I was referring to above is the over the top bashing that seems so commonplace, not everyday complaints. We all have those!

Phew I thought you were talking about me! I was like that's not even bashing!!!

[rooskie]

Jan 21, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5 pinkcat said:

I have to add that my UO above was not at all directed to the normal husband venting I just now saw in the Thursday randoms. What I was referring to above is the over the top bashing that seems so commonplace, not everyday complaints. We all have those!

Thanks. I love H to death and he's great 99% of the time, but I was exhausted last night and he didn't help at all.

[sleepymonkey]

Jan 21, 2016 10:08:39 GMT -5 samanthasays said:

Jan 21, 2016 9:34:29 GMT -5 ugaqueencity said:

Like JCrew's new 000 option?

Ugh I hate that. And the JCrew 000 is a Guess size 2, why are our sizes so damn arbitrary? Maybe women's clothes should be like men's and go by waist and inseam. Is there a reason why they don't do that? Any fashion merchandisers in the house?

My undergrad degree is in fashion merchandising! I think it's really just vanity. We've been trained that smaller numbers are better and many women don't want to see their actual waist size (10 sounds better than 30). And I think the reason there is such a variance in sizes across different manufacturers is also vanity. If you have 2 pairs of pants that both fit the same and one is a size 8 from JCrew and the other is a size 12 from Guess, chances are most women will buy the smaller size. There is a definite psychological aspect to women's sizing that they don't have so much with men's sizing.

[cheshie6]

Jan 21, 2016 8:53:58 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

UO: I don't mind paying a little more for my plus size clothes. They do require more fabric, right?

If that were true why don't men have to pay extra? That's my only issue with paying extra. Go into a store or online. Men's clothes aren't separated out from regular to plus size. Women are separated petite, women's, plus size.

[pinkcat]

rooskie and mustloveerica I hadn't seen any of your posts in the randoms when I posted my UO, and then I went to the randoms and was all "Oh no! I hope they don't think I am talking about them!" I definitely was not at all- your vents are not at all like the ones I was referring to

[samanthasays]

Jan 21, 2016 10:24:16 GMT -5 sleepymonkey said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:08:39 GMT -5 samanthasays said:

Ugh I hate that. And the JCrew 000 is a Guess size 2, why are our sizes so damn arbitrary? Maybe women's clothes should be like men's and go by waist and inseam. Is there a reason why they don't do that? Any fashion merchandisers in the house?

My undergrad degree is in fashion merchandising! I think it's really just vanity. We've been trained that smaller numbers are better and many women don't want to see their actual waist size (10 sounds better than 30). And I think the reason there is such a variance in sizes across different manufacturers is also vanity. If you have 2 pairs of pants that both fit the same and one is a size 8 from JCrew and the other is a size 12 from Guess, chances are most women will buy the smaller size. There is a definite psychological aspect to women's sizing that they don't have so much with men's sizing.

I thought it had something to do with vanity, but that was such a great explanation! Thank you

[joy]

J Crew is the worst. I stopped buying from them years ago when their quality tanked.

The shirts got thinner so I had to buy two shirts so no one would see my bra, but the kicker was when I bought a $45 cotton skirt that was destroyed by one trip into the washing machine.

No thanks, J Crew. You aren't all that and a bag of chips. No more of my money will you enjoy.

[butlerfan]

Jan 21, 2016 10:07:55 GMT -5 TheEleventhHour said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5 pinkcat said:

I have to add that my UO above was not at all directed to the normal husband venting I just now saw in the Thursday randoms. What I was referring to above is the over the top bashing that seems so commonplace, not everyday complaints. We all have those!

Totally agree. It is one thing to vent but another thing to just be mean!

Agree here to.  I mean I vent about H and he vents about me as well. But there is a "normal" amount and then vicious bashing.

[requiressnacks]

Jan 21, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

Jan 21, 2016 8:53:58 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

UO: I don't mind paying a little more for my plus size clothes. They do require more fabric, right?

If that were true why don't men have to pay extra? That's my only issue with paying extra. Go into a store or online. Men's clothes aren't separated out from regular to plus size. Women are separated petite, women's, plus size.

Men's Big & Tall is usually separated, right?

[sleepymonkey]

Jan 21, 2016 10:30:52 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

If that were true why don't men have to pay extra? That's my only issue with paying extra. Go into a store or online. Men's clothes aren't separated out from regular to plus size. Women are separated petite, women's, plus size.

Men's Big & Tall is usually separated, right?

Yup. We buy MH shirts in size LT and they're usually about $2-$5 more than the regular sizes.

[cheshie6]

Jan 21, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5 pinkcat said:

I have to add that my UO above was not at all directed to the normal husband venting I just now saw in the Thursday randoms. What I was referring to above is the over the top bashing that seems so commonplace, not everyday complaints. We all have those!

+1 I have unfriended people IRL for bashing their husbands. I also think being around it, you can unknowingly pick up this bad habit. I have to limit how much I talk to my sister because I can't handle how often she gets upset with BIL.

[ceejay]

Jan 21, 2016 10:08:39 GMT -5 samanthasays said:

Jan 21, 2016 9:34:29 GMT -5 ugaqueencity said:

Like JCrew's new 000 option?

 Maybe women's clothes should be like men's and go by waist and inseam. 

This would make shopping for pants so much easier for me. But I think that if they did women's pants like that, they would have to have 3 measurements rather than just 2 - waist, hips, and inseam. Because I think (in general) there is more variability in women's hip measurements than men's. And maybe that would just make it too confusing to have 3 size numbers? And the manufacturers don't want to make that many different sizes of pants?

[pinkcat]

Jan 21, 2016 10:40:22 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5 pinkcat said:

I have to add that my UO above was not at all directed to the normal husband venting I just now saw in the Thursday randoms. What I was referring to above is the over the top bashing that seems so commonplace, not everyday complaints. We all have those!

+1 I have unfriended people IRL for bashing their husbands. I also think being around it, you can unknowingly pick up this bad habit. I have to limit how much I talk to my sister because I can't handle how often she gets upset with BIL.

I completely agree. There is a side of my family where it is very common- it seems like every time the women in that side are together, hours of the night are spent on this. I think they very much feed off each other, and it seems you are bound to breed resentment in your relationship if you spend too much time bashing it and focusing on the negative.

[samanthasays]

Jan 21, 2016 10:48:32 GMT -5 ceejay said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:08:39 GMT -5 samanthasays said:

 Maybe women's clothes should be like men's and go by waist and inseam. 

This would make shopping for pants so much easier for me. But I think that if they did women's pants like that, they would have to have 3 measurements rather than just 2 - waist, hips, and inseam. Because I think (in general) there is more variability in women's hip measurements than men's. And maybe that would just make it too confusing to have 3 size numbers? And the manufacturer's don't want to make that many different sizes of pants?

That is true, and womens pants have more variability with where the waist hits. I am all about the high waisted mom jeans  

[rablissful]

I fucking hate American Pickers.

This is unpopular with my SO, who puts it on any chance he gets despite me saying I hate it every. single. time.

[cheshie6]

Jan 21, 2016 10:30:52 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

If that were true why don't men have to pay extra? That's my only issue with paying extra. Go into a store or online. Men's clothes aren't separated out from regular to plus size. Women are separated petite, women's, plus size.

Men's Big & Tall is usually separated, right?

That's a specialty store like Lane Bryant, or Torrid. I meant if you in a Macy's, Old Navy, or Gap, men's are just men's but women's are separated into different sections of the store or only available online. I never had to go to the petite men's department to get my husband his jeans or the plus size men's department to get my brother his jeans. They are all together and no price difference between DH's 32x34 and my brother's 42x34!

[sleepymonkey]

Jan 21, 2016 10:52:39 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:30:52 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Men's Big & Tall is usually separated, right?

That's a specialty store like Lane Bryant, or Torrid. I meant if you in a Macy's, Old Navy, or Gap, men's are just men's but women's are separated into different sections of the store or only available online. I never had to go to the petite men's department to get my husband his jeans or the plus size men's department to get my brother his jeans. They are all together and no price difference between DH's 32x34 and my brother's 42x34!

The big & tall section is separated out at a lot of stores. It's usually a very small section but it is seperate. It's usually waist size 44+ or inseam 36+. Sometimes you might find tall size shirts or XXL+ shirts mixed in with regular sizes but bottoms are often in a separate section.

[notagoddess]

He's a good actor, but I DNW to have sex with Leo.

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Jan 21, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

Jan 21, 2016 8:53:58 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

UO: I don't mind paying a little more for my plus size clothes. They do require more fabric, right?

If that were true why don't men have to pay extra? That's my only issue with paying extra. Go into a store or online. Men's clothes aren't separated out from regular to plus size. Women are separated petite, women's, plus size.

They are actually separated. They are often called extended sizes and will have a slightly higher price tag.
Also the sizing at Casual Male XL(formerly Big & Tall) is scaled different from the regular stores for the same reason they use for women's clothing. For example: at Kohl's MH is a 3X, but at Casual Male he is usually an XL.

[requiressnacks]

Jan 21, 2016 10:52:39 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:30:52 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Men's Big & Tall is usually separated, right?

That's a specialty store like Lane Bryant, or Torrid. I meant if you in a Macy's, Old Navy, or Gap, men's are just men's but women's are separated into different sections of the store or only available online. I never had to go to the petite men's department to get my husband his jeans or the plus size men's department to get my brother his jeans. They are all together and no price difference between DH's 32x34 and my brother's 42x34!

At my Macy's, they have a separate Big & Tall section. (I know, because MH shops there).  Other stores like Old Navy and Gap don't even offer Big & Tall.

But you are right - the men's sizes definitely have a larger range of sizing than women's.  But I also think that their sizing in general is simpler, with more basic cuts than women's clothes.

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I also would like to point out that while I do not wear plus size clothing, lingerie companies still charge me extra for having a larger cup size.

A 32DDD costs more than a 32D.

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2016 11:33:12 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Jan 21, 2016 10:52:39 GMT -5 cheshie6 said:

That's a specialty store like Lane Bryant, or Torrid. I meant if you in a Macy's, Old Navy, or Gap, men's are just men's but women's are separated into different sections of the store or only available online. I never had to go to the petite men's department to get my husband his jeans or the plus size men's department to get my brother his jeans. They are all together and no price difference between DH's 32x34 and my brother's 42x34!

At my Macy's, they have a separate Big & Tall section. (I know, because MH shops there).  Other stores like Old Navy and Gap don't even offer Big & Tall.

But you are right - the men's sizes definitely have a larger range of sizing than women's.  But I also think that their sizing in general is simpler, with more basic cuts than women's clothes.

Interesting, the one I work at (ssshhhh, don't tell anyone that's one of my employers) does not have a Men's Big and Tall section. We end up send people to other local stores.
However, we do have a petite and women's(plus size) section.

[requiressnacks]

Jan 21, 2016 11:40:39 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Jan 21, 2016 11:33:12 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

At my Macy's, they have a separate Big & Tall section. (I know, because MH shops there).  Other stores like Old Navy and Gap don't even offer Big & Tall.

But you are right - the men's sizes definitely have a larger range of sizing than women's.  But I also think that their sizing in general is simpler, with more basic cuts than women's clothes.

Interesting, the one I work at (ssshhhh, don't tell anyone that's one of my employers) does not have a Men's Big and Tall section. We end up send people to other local stores.
However, we do have a petite and women's(plus size) section.

I think perhaps Petites and Women's are more common because in general, women shop more? Who knows.

And I won't tell anyone....I looooove Macy's. Online especially.

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Jan 21, 2016 11:43:05 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Jan 21, 2016 11:40:39 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Interesting, the one I work at (ssshhhh, don't tell anyone that's one of my employers) does not have a Men's Big and Tall section. We end up send people to other local stores.
However, we do have a petite and women's(plus size) section.

I think perhaps Petites and Women's are more common because in general, women shop more? Who knows.

And I won't tell anyone....I looooove Macy's. Online especially.

Did you know you can price match online prices in store? It's one of their lesser advertised policies.

[requiressnacks]

Jan 21, 2016 11:44:49 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Jan 21, 2016 11:43:05 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

I think perhaps Petites and Women's are more common because in general, women shop more? Who knows.

And I won't tell anyone....I looooove Macy's. Online especially.

Did you know you can price match online prices in store? It's one of their lesser advertised policies.

Did not know that! THANKS!

[requiressnacks]

Jan 21, 2016 10:51:45 GMT -5 rablissful said:

I fucking hate American Pickers.

This is unpopular with my SO, who puts it on any chance he gets despite me saying I hate it every. single. time.

This is how I feel about Counting Cars.

I can deal with American Pickers.

[rablissful]

Jan 21, 2016 11:29:06 GMT -5 notagoddess said:

He's a good actor, but I DNW to have sex with Leo.

Don't let icaughtfire see this.

Although, that would mean more Leo for her.

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2016 9:01:07 GMT -5 spicysalmonroll said:

UO: Some of this talk about planners, and people sharing certain brands that are like $70. I'm over here like are you fucking crazy, I got one at Marshall's for $5.

I am curious what types of items do you consider to be splurge-worthy.

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2016 10:04:22 GMT -5 butlerfan said:

Jan 21, 2016 8:58:57 GMT -5 @snuff9861 said:

I love winter

Where do you live to say this.  We've been having wind chill factors and I am over winter.

Canada.

Still love it, even when it's -40C with the windchill

[icaughtfire]

Jan 21, 2016 11:50:50 GMT -5 rablissful said:

Jan 21, 2016 11:29:06 GMT -5 notagoddess said:

He's a good actor, but I DNW to have sex with Leo.

Don't let icaughtfire see this.

Although, that would mean more Leo for her.

I've been trying to find a gif suitable enough for such an insane statement, but for some reason I can't gif on mobile anymore.

Just know that my face was one of shock & outrage.