Ask a Snatch Anything!

[lgsdesigner]

Feb 3, 2015 16:30:23 GMT -5 @ajzmommy said:

Feb 3, 2015 15:46:50 GMT -5 @gfj48 said:

Yup! In the "what have you bought" thread

That house looked like he model homes they show you when you're picking a lot to have a house built. 
I was like, woah if you just brought it did it come with the interior designing as well? 

@ajzmommy -

There are some women that I like to call “Pinterest Women” who have their entire lives mirror that of something you would see on that site. Their house is perfection, their kids never have a speck of dirt on them and their outfits are flawless, and there is not one shitty photo of them anywhere to be found. It’s almost like they live with a pro photographer.

They live, breathe and act out the fake lives of what they think life SHOULD look like.

I think this particular poster may be one of those types.

[rocksforludo]

Feb 3, 2015 16:48:14 GMT -5 @gfj48 said:

Feb 3, 2015 16:40:43 GMT -5 rocksforludo said:

Real, on the Twitter and all over the internets.

oh wow. yeah that was easy.

Yeah, using the same username makes it really easy.  I used to do prospect research for a living so....if you ladies get a tough one, let me know.  I love a good search of the internet. 

[rocksforludo]

Feb 3, 2015 16:52:50 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 3, 2015 16:50:34 GMT -5 rocksforludo said:

Yeah, using the same username makes it really easy.  I used to do prospect research for a living so....if you ladies get a tough one, let me know.  I love a good search of the internet. 

Oooh, it's like we have a private spy. 

Ha, well you can bet I searched the shit out of the neighbors when we were house-hunting.

[amelandre]

Ooh I just googled my username and apparently there's a guy in France whose full name i inadvertently used. Oops! Other than that it's images I've shared on here (creeeepy) and people quoting me on TB.

[t1green]

Feb 3, 2015 16:46:26 GMT -5 lgsdesigner said:

Feb 3, 2015 16:30:23 GMT -5 @ajzmommy said:

That house looked like he model homes they show you when you're picking a lot to have a house built. 
I was like, woah if you just brought it did it come with the interior designing as well? 

@ajzmommy -

There are some women that I like to call “Pinterest Women” who have their entire lives mirror that of something you would see on that site. Their house is perfection, their kids never have a speck of dirt on them and their outfits are flawless, and there is not one shitty photo of them anywhere to be found. It’s almost like they live with a pro photographer.

They live, breathe and act out the fake lives of what they think life SHOULD look like.

I think this particular poster may be one of those types.

I feel sad for these types of women.  I would hate to go through life thinking that I had to live up to a certain expectation.  Yes, I like a clean home and I like to cook and I like to look nice but there are more important things to stress and worry about and I can't help but think that people like this are hiding something.  It's almost like an insecurity of some sort. 

I have a close family member that is just like this and people would never know that she's a miserable human being.  Her husband treats her like shit, she was fired from her job for reasons that could have landed her in jail,  the list just goes on and on.  You'd think that she lives the most perfect life unless you really knew her.

[t1green]

Feb 3, 2015 16:53:32 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 3, 2015 16:52:31 GMT -5 @gfj48 said:

Seriously though if my house looked that perfect I'd AW it up!

Same. But I ain't got time for that. 

Mine only looks that good on Sunday when I'm finished cleaning and then by Monday afternoon it's in shambles again. Dog fur all over the couch, couch cushions all squished, shit on the bathroom counter.  I'll admit that I have shoved things to the side to take my HDBD pics.

[shmee]

If I had my little way, I'd eat peaches everyday...

Thanks t1green now I can't stop singing it either

[amelandre]

Feb 3, 2015 16:57:45 GMT -5 t1green said:

Feb 3, 2015 16:46:26 GMT -5 lgsdesigner said:

@ajzmommy -

There are some women that I like to call “Pinterest Women” who have their entire lives mirror that of something you would see on that site. Their house is perfection, their kids never have a speck of dirt on them and their outfits are flawless, and there is not one shitty photo of them anywhere to be found. It’s almost like they live with a pro photographer.

They live, breathe and act out the fake lives of what they think life SHOULD look like.

I think this particular poster may be one of those types.

I feel sad for these types of women.  I would hate to go through life thinking that I had to live up to a certain expectation.  Yes, I like a clean home and I like to cook and I like to look nice but there are more important things to stress and worry about and I can't help but think that people like this are hiding something.  It's almost like an insecurity of some sort. 

I have a close family member that is just like this and people would never know that she's a miserable human being.  Her husband treats her like shit, she was fired from her job for reasons that could have landed her in jail,  the list just goes on and on.  You'd think that she lives the most perfect life unless you really knew her.

That's what my mom was like when I was growing up. She could barely even stand to have any pictures of us in which we were messy or not in coordinated clothing. House had to be spotless, she would never leave the house without full make up, was always organizing big holiday parties for the church even though she hated doing it and would get SO stressed about them, etc.. It was pretty much hell. She's chilled a lot as she's gotten older. Thank goodness.

I remember my sister and I makin a pact when we were like 6 and 9 that if one of us acted like that when we were grown-ups that the other would set them straight. So far, so good.

[t1green]

Feb 3, 2015 17:05:31 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 3, 2015 17:00:04 GMT -5 t1green said:

Mine only looks that good on Sunday when I'm finished cleaning and then by Monday afternoon it's in shambles again. Dog fur all over the couch, couch cushions all squished, shit on the bathroom counter.  I'll admit that I have shoved things to the side to take my HDBD pics.

Mine has 3 clean rooms right now (out of 10), which exhausted me to clean yesterday. It takes so much energy just to wash the dishes, I can't imagine keeping the whole house spotless right now. 

I'm so screwed when we move out of our 1 bedroom apartment.  Haha!

[rocksforludo]

Feb 3, 2015 17:19:05 GMT -5 alwayslastzz said:

I just did mine. All that showed up was shit here and TD. Images was just a bunch of sad sayings! Lol. I stared at the word "always" for like a year because I didn't know if it was right or not. I was like "is that really how you spell it?"

Haa, I was just seconds ago staring at the word "facility" in a work doc and saying that looks wrong....

[tabH]

Feb 3, 2015 16:56:35 GMT -5 @texasmama15 said:

Feb 3, 2015 16:55:19 GMT -5 amelandre said:

Ooh I just googled my username and apparently there's a guy in France whose full name i inadvertently used. Oops! Other than that it's images I've shared on here (creeeepy) and people quoting me on TB.

Ooo I just did the same with my username and just so everyone knows the texasmama15 that shows up for instagram is NOT me.

I just did this too and apparently I am a 16 year old on Instagram, a Muslim name, or a popular hashtag on twitter. So weird.

[Powermom]

Feb 3, 2015 15:46:20 GMT -5 snapdragon said:

I am so bad at remembering people. I have no idea who you all are talking about.

This is me. This baby has sucked any memory I had left right out of me. I can't remember shit any more!

[brittneysandra]

After reading this thread and handing out love-tits like candy, I think this thread needs a third name...
Call A Snach Out! Lol

[Powermom]

snapdragon I have a question! I always miss you here on Friday nights/Saturdays. (I know it's bc you are orthodox Jewish) what is a typical Friday night/Saturday like for you and your family?

[Starbuck128]

My confession on Friday will be I never side eyed her. She is very similar to someone I know in person, and even looks like her.

[Poppy]

Feb 3, 2015 15:51:30 GMT -5 lolo918 said:

Feb 3, 2015 15:33:22 GMT -5 t1green said:

YESSSS!!!!!!

She posted a HDBD picture awhile back saying she was wearing hardly any makeup.  Yah.  Right.  Yah fucking right!  Like I'm really going to believe your bleach blonde peroxide self is wearing hardly any any makeup.  I can see the foundation, bronzer, and eye shadow.  All that girl was missing was lipstick thank you very much.

I was wondering if I was the only one thinking that about that HDBD picture. I almost commented wow your no make-up look is pretty much my full face make-up look, but forgot.

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The blush is what killed me. Gurrrrl I know those aren't your natural cheekbones!

[snapdragon]

Feb 3, 2015 17:44:37 GMT -5 Powermom said:

snapdragon I have a question! I always miss you here on Friday nights/Saturdays. (I know it's bc you are orthodox Jewish) what is a typical Friday night/Saturday like for you and your family?

I'm on mobile right now but will come on my desktop to answer this tonight after bedtime!

[Cornflakegirl]

Now I have to go back to try to find these posts. I have the worst memory!

[Cornflakegirl]

Ok I went back and now I remember! That is a full night out on the town makeup! Blush, foundation, eye shadow, the works!

[Poppy]

Feb 3, 2015 19:42:59 GMT -5 Cornflakegirl said:

Ok I went back and now I remember! That is a full night out on the town makeup! Blush, foundation, eye shadow, the works!

Totes. Shadow with a crease and all. I know the no make-up make-up look is big right now but that's not it.

[smile55k]

I am amazed (and a little scared) at the spy investigator skills of some of you ladies.... I have a bad memory, but I totally remember that HDBD "no makeup" bullshit.

[snapdragon]

Feb 3, 2015 17:44:37 GMT -5 Powermom said:

snapdragon I have a question! I always miss you here on Friday nights/Saturdays. (I know it's bc you are orthodox Jewish) what is a typical Friday night/Saturday like for you and your family?

So after spending all day on Friday cooking, and ideally straightening up the house, taking a last-minute shower, and dressing in nice clothes and jewelry, at just about exactly 18 minutes before sunset on Friday night, I light four candles, say a blessing, and the Sabbath (we call Shabbat, or Shabbos) officially begins.  After candles are lit (or after sunset, whether you light candles or not), cooking, handling or using electronics, driving, and many other things are forbidden.  Practically, this means that the minute candles are lit everything just slows down and a kind of calm settles over the house.  

Now, in the winter, when my kids are still up at sunset, the house is usually still kind of a mess at this point and the table is never set because we only have one table and they are probably having a snack.  So after I light candles (with my LOs watching in excitement), we all sing a Shabbos song, I might sit down and take a breath for a minute, and then I pick up the leftover toys in the main living/dining room and set the table with my white Shabbos tablecloth, silver, and fine china.  My husband goes to synagogue a few minutes before I light candles, so I do all this in preparation for him to come home with whatever guests we have planned for that week.  It's usually about an hour and a half from the time I light until he comes home, so unless I'm totally not at all dressed yet or I end up lying down for an hour, it's more than enough time.  The kids love to "help" set the table.

When H comes home with our guests, we sing a song called Shalom Aleichem, and then we all sit down and everyone sings Aishes Chayil (A woman of valor), which is a song more or less praising the lady of the house.  I admit I love this part.  Then he gives each of the children a blessing, and he makes kiddush over the wine (another blessing), and everyone drinks some wine.  This is usually sweet, not-very-alcoholic wine, because he has to drink a lot of it at once.  We actually use grape juice, and if we feel like it we put out real wine with the actual meal.  After that we all get up to do a ritual hand-washing (with another blessing), then we come back to the table and H makes a blessing over the challah bread that I baked that day, then he cuts a slice for everyone.  Then I serve soup, then the meal, which has been put in the oven before candle-lighting to keep warm.  I always serve at least one kind of meat/poultry and two sides, and then dessert if we have guests.  I sometimes skip dessert if it's just the two of us because seriously everyone is always full after the challah and soup and it's hard to even get through the main course.  Sometimes we sing certain songs, called zemiros, after the meal, and my husband will usually share what's called a "Dvar Torah," which is basically a mini-sermon on that week's Torah portion.  The kids usually get put to bed either right after the bread and soup or after the meal but before dessert, so we get to have some adults-only social time.  In the summer, when sunset is much later, they're usually in bed before dinner so I feed them their own dinner early.

After dinner we almost always go right to bed after our guests leave.  We just ate a huge meal and there is no TV, computer, or phone to keep us up.  Even if dinner is over at 8:00 it always feels like midnight!

Saturday morning my H goes to synagogue early while I sleep in as much as my kids will allow.  Men are required to go to synagogue to pray, while women may pray from home.  I used to go to synagogue on Shabbos, but now that I have kids I take full advantage of being allowed to pray at home.  We eat chocolate chip muffins and sugar cereal for breakfast in our pajamas and play together, or else I read/doze on the couch while they play.  H gets home around 10:00, and then I'll get dressed in peace while he plays with them, say my own prayers, and every other week I will go across the street to my neighbor's house and we will learn together.  Right now we're learning two books, one on Jewish law of what's forbidden on Shabbos, and the other on marital harmony.

Then we have a huge lunch that I mostly prepared on Friday because no cooking is allowed, but I might mix a salad or two on Saturday.  Sometimes we are invited to someone else's house for lunch, sometimes we have guests, and sometimes it's just us.  After lunch, everyone goes to nap.  What happens after naptime depends heavily on the season.  In the summer we will often have the teenagers from my husband's youth group over at our house for some board games and snacks, or I will take the kids to the playground around the block.  In the winter Shabbos is almost over by then, so H goes back to synagogue just before sundown for afternoon and evening prayers, while I take the kids to a playdate with a friend in the neighborhood or to my neighbor's house where we all have a third meal together (the third meal is much less a big deal than the other two--it's usually just bread and whatever is left over from lunch).  Then H will come pick us up from wherever we are after he gets home from synagogue (or in the summer he will just come home, because the kids are already in bed), and Shabbos is over!  We make havdalah (a ritual/blessing to mark the end of Shabbos), sing a song, and then put the kids to bed, check our text messages, GBCB, and FB, and do the mountain of dishes that's waiting for us.

Sure it's twice as much work on Friday, but to me it's worth it to have a complete day off on Saturday.  I'm a SAHM, so without Shabbos I don't think I would feel like I ever had that.  Of course I still have to feed and take care of the kids, but housework and cooking, even family outings that you have to drive to, are strictly forbidden.  I never feel guilty about spending the whole morning on the couch in my pajamas, and that is priceless to me.

ETA: I knew that would get long!!  Hope that answers your question, and sorry about the wall of text!

[viola]

snapdragon I really love reading about your religion. It's incredibly inspirational how devout you are.

I have a question for you: A long time ago you said that girls are actually more important or more valued (I can't remember the exact wording) in the Jewish faith. It was in regards to the different naming ceremonies. Can you elaborate on this?

[Powermom]

Thank you for taking the time to answer! I think it is such an interesting religion and I always have so many questions about it! snapdragon

[snapdragon]

Feb 3, 2015 23:31:34 GMT -5 viola said:

snapdragon I really love reading about your religion. It's incredibly inspirational how devout you are.

I have a question for you: A long time ago you said that girls are actually more important or more valued (I can't remember the exact wording) in the Jewish faith. It was in regards to the different naming ceremonies. Can you elaborate on this?

Okay, so this is going to get a little deep and philosophical, and I'm going to come out and say right now that a lot of ladies are going to roll their eyes at this and say it's just patting on the head from a patriarchal religion that wants us to be happy and remain in our place without questioning the system.  I understand that.  But I heartily disagree.

In Judaism, women are considered spiritually superior to men, in no small part due to the fact that we have the ability to create life.  Women were created with a connection to G-d that men lack, and this is the reason why men are required to make up that deficit with more commandments from which women are excused, like praying at the synagogue, wearing tallis and tefillin, and many others.  Men in this case can be compared to a sick person who is required to take daily medicine, and women simply don't need to take this "medicine" to achieve closeness to G-d.  There are various biblical proofs for this, and there are tons of examples of women being spiritually greater than their husbands in the Torah, or the Jewish women simply being on a higher level than the men.  I can rattle off probably a dozen off the top of my head, and I'm relatively new to this level of Judaism.  

[radtechgirl]

Thank you snapdragon for taking the time to explain, I learned a lot.

[lolo918]

Thank you snapdragon, this has been fascinating and educational. I've always been curious about Judaism since I read Number the Stars way back when but did not have exposure to Jews that I could ask.

[rocksforludo]

Feb 3, 2015 22:33:05 GMT -5 smile55k said:

I am amazed (and a little scared) at the spy investigator skills of some of you ladies.... I have a bad memory, but I totally remember that HDBD "no makeup" bullshit.

Don't worry - about me at least - I don't sit around Googling the ladies here.  I respect people's privacy and I wouldn't go looking anything up unless it seems potentially sketchy/trollish/threatening.  I've never searched for anyone else here before.

But it is amazing how much is out there on the internet when you know where/how to look.  I find myself needing a reminder of that from time to time too.

[amelandre]

Feb 4, 2015 9:50:01 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 3, 2015 23:46:04 GMT -5 snapdragon said:

Okay, so this is going to get a little deep and philosophical, and I'm going to come out and say right now that a lot of ladies are going to roll their eyes at this and say it's just patting on the head from a patriarchal religion that wants us to be happy and remain in our place without questioning the system.  I understand that.  But I heartily disagree.

In Judaism, women are considered spiritually superior to men, in no small part due to the fact that we have the ability to create life.  Women were created with a connection to G-d that men lack, and this is the reason why men are required to make up that deficit with more commandments from which women are excused, like praying at the synagogue, wearing tallis and tefillin, and many others.  Men in this case can be compared to a sick person who is required to take daily medicine, and women simply don't need to take this "medicine" to achieve closeness to G-d.  There are various biblical proofs for this, and there are tons of examples of women being spiritually greater than their husbands in the Torah, or the Jewish women simply being on a higher level than the men.  I can rattle off probably a dozen off the top of my head, and I'm relatively new to this level of Judaism.  

I love reading about your religion, it's so interesting. I will admit that it is completely different than what you've told us and I am intrigued! Also, really impressed with your commitment to your religion. 

I like how women are viewed in your religion, I'm often really irritated when I'm around SOs family because of how Amish women are viewed/treated opposed to men. 

Ditto that. It's worse the more conservative the sect is. Around here we have what we call the Swartzentruber Amish. They're the ones who still only bathe once per week, not even bicycles are allowed, no "slow vehicle" triangles on the buggies, just a little lantern on the side. They seriously treat women like property. There's a huge sexual abuse problem through the whole sect because they don't really view wives or daughters as anything but subservient dumb objects. Women aren't supposed to speak in public if the husband is around, they take care of the house and the 6+ kids, and still have to help with the manual labor too.

These are not the Amish that let their kids go on "Rumspringa" either. They are expected to be perfectly obedient and docile from day one. It breaks my heart when I see the little kids go from bright-eyed, inquisitive, normal children, to these dead-eyed, broken spirited people. It's just crazy how the abuse cycles down through generations without anyone who is actually involved putting their foot down and stopping it.

[amelandre]

beeorange They are the minority around here, and a lot of people who aren't from the area would never even know they are around because they don't really go out in public very often. They abide by an (unspoken) rule that if they can buy or trade with someone else from the Swartzentruber community, they must do that first, before shopping with an outsider. Most of the Amish around here are New Order (most modern, allowed to use tractors, some have cell phones) or Old Order (horse power only, no bikes, no phones, still bathe regularly and go out in public).