I have never tried MJ, I never intend to, but holy chalupas it's a vice. If you don't have one, you're lying. Pot is far from the worst thing a person can participate in.
Ironically, chalupas are my vice.
I'm not admitting my addictions. You all think I'm adorably nerdy.
I guess I fail to see how this is being close minded. I don't care if someone does it (assuming it doesn't impact my life in some way). I just don't agree with it. Having not tried a drug- legal or not- does not make me close minded.
I don't think anyone gives a crap whether or not you smoke it or want to. It's calling a group of people "immature" because they do like to that is ruffling feathers.
ETA: And that attitude is what she is referring to as close-minded.
Ok. I do understand the bolded. I apologize for the over generalization. But there is a reputation for a reason, and for the people who have experienced negative repercussions from it, I do think it is immature. But @caughtfire specifically said "especially having never tried it for either purpose". So apparently the generalization isn't the only issue.
Edit: Only using the work immature here because it was my original OP, I still don't think it conveys what I am trying to say accurately.
I think being close minded is a sign of immaturity. To say "I'm cool with this if its for medical purposes but not for recreational use" (especially having never tried it for either purpose) is close minded. 18 year olds doing bong rips at a frat party? Meh, yeah, immature, but so is probably everything you do at 18. A grown adult smoking a joint on their back porch, alone or among other adults, on a Saturday night? I'm not finding anything immature (or whatever word close to that you're trying to portray) about that.
I guess I fail to see how this is being close minded. I don't care if someone does it (assuming it doesn't impact my life in some way). I just don't agree with it. Having not tried a drug- legal or not- does not make me close minded.
I'm not saying not trying it is close minded -- you do you, boo. I think making a broad generalization about something you've never done, and only have a limited view point of, is close minded. Your experience with someone who uses pot recreationally sounds like not the actual norm for most recreational users, and to say you find recreational use to be "immature" (or whatever word you're trying to express) is, in my opinion, an immature way to view the situation.
I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I just don't understand having such firm beliefs on something you truly know so little about. That's just me though. ::shrug::
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Meh. I get where lgraceh is coming from. I don't smoke. Never have. No desire. And until recently, I was not exposed to people who could or would partake in a mature manner. Obviously I don't think everyone who does is immature, but nothing I have been exposed to would combat that viewpoint.
Only in the past few years have I met people who had turned around that stereotype for me. And media certainly does nothing to clear up the stereotype, which is exactly what it is.
Now, I know more, and I appreciate the medicinal uses, and I am pro-legalization (even for recreational use), but I do see how the stereotype exists.
speaking of boats....I once snuck into my mom's boat (docked at the marina) with my bf and while we were getting busy I got a fishing lure stuck in my big toe. I tried to be cool and not say anything, so I waited until we finished and ripped it out. It hurt like hell.
Was your mom driving this boat and you guys were in the back?
My apologies if this was already asked, haven't finished reading yet
I understand, your experience with it has a negative association. Associations are normal and legitimate. And sometimes we generalize off of them, but that is why I share, to try and change some of those perceptions I am not trying to influence anyone to try it or anything, to each their own.
Base on this alone I want to go grow a plant or two.
I've done it. In CA where it was legal or legal enough, I cant remember It is expensive to get started (around $200 is the low end), and a loooong process (2-3 months in veg, 2-3 months in flower, and then the drying time, then the curing time), but so worth it. You can get over $1,000 worth from one plant, and you know you are not supporting some sketchy drug king pin who dog fights and god knows what else on the side.
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I don't think anyone gives a crap whether or not you smoke it or want to. It's calling a group of people "immature" because they do like to that is ruffling feathers.
ETA: And that attitude is what she is referring to as close-minded.
Ok. I do understand the bolded. I apologize for the over generalization. But there is a reputation for a reason, and for the people who have experienced negative repercussions from it, I do think it is immature. But @caughtfire specifically said "especially having never tried it for either purpose". So apparently the generalization isn't the only issue.
Edit: Only using the work immature here because it was my original OP, I still don't think it conveys what I am trying to say accurately.
My point by this statement was that you've decided one way is okay, the other is not, yet you have no experience with either so I don't understand how you can make a determination of what's "okay" & what's not?
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I guess I fail to see how this is being close minded. I don't care if someone does it (assuming it doesn't impact my life in some way). I just don't agree with it. Having not tried a drug- legal or not- does not make me close minded.
I'm not saying not trying it is close minded -- you do you, boo. I think making a broad generalization about something you've never done, and only have a limited view point of, is close minded. Your experience with someone who uses pot recreationally sounds like not the actual norm for most recreational users, and to say you find recreational use to be "immature" (or whatever word you're trying to express) is, in my opinion, an immature way to view the situation.
I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I just don't understand having such firm beliefs on something you truly know so little about. That's just me though. ::shrug::
I'm not sure I've ever expressed "such firm beliefs". I just don't agree with the use of it recreationally, even if someone using it isn't the stereotypical stoner. I don't care if it is legal or not. I also don't care if people do it- even people close to me. I don't have to agree with everything that someone does?
I think the biggest problem I see here is that one person is creating an opinion based on a small subset of a larger community. Sure, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. But stereotypes are also typically built from the outliers of a group as a caricature, not as an accurate representation of the actual group.
Most nerds don't hang out at home and smell bad or have poor hygiene. Most women who care about their appearance are not vapid airheads. Most guys that have a passion for the theater aren't gay. Most fangirls/boys won't actually stalk a person at their home or hotel room.
Ok. I do understand the bolded. I apologize for the over generalization. But there is a reputation for a reason, and for the people who have experienced negative repercussions from it, I do think it is immature. But @caughtfire specifically said "especially having never tried it for either purpose". So apparently the generalization isn't the only issue.
Edit: Only using the work immature here because it was my original OP, I still don't think it conveys what I am trying to say accurately.
My point by this statement was that you've decided one way is okay, the other is not, yet you have no experience with either so I don't understand how you can make a determination of what's "okay" & what's not?
So if I had said that I tried it one time in college, decided it wasn't for me, and currently don't agree with the recreational use of it, that would be ok?
Edit: I have obviously interacted w/ people who use it recreationally on both ends of the spectrum/stereotype (Samantha and friend's DH) and I still don't agree with the recreational use of it or want to try it.
My point by this statement was that you've decided one way is okay, the other is not, yet you have no experience with either so I don't understand how you can make a determination of what's "okay" & what's not?
So if I had said that I tried it one time in college, decided it wasn't for me, and currently don't agree with the recreational use of it, that would be ok?
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My point by this statement was that you've decided one way is okay, the other is not, yet you have no experience with either so I don't understand how you can make a determination of what's "okay" & what's not?
So if I had said that I tried it one time in college, decided it wasn't for me, and currently don't agree with the recreational use of it, that would be ok?
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I'm not saying not trying it is close minded -- you do you, boo. I think making a broad generalization about something you've never done, and only have a limited view point of, is close minded. Your experience with someone who uses pot recreationally sounds like not the actual norm for most recreational users, and to say you find recreational use to be "immature" (or whatever word you're trying to express) is, in my opinion, an immature way to view the situation.
I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I just don't understand having such firm beliefs on something you truly know so little about. That's just me though. ::shrug::
I'm not sure I've ever expressed "such firm beliefs". I just don't agree with the use of it recreationally, even if someone using it isn't the stereotypical stoner. I don't care if it is legal or not. I also don't care if people do it- even people close to me. I don't have to agree with everything that someone does?
But you aren't just not agreeing. And you do care. Because you're judging them. Me. Anyone who has and does do it.
In pot related FFFCs, the first time I went to see DMB we (H and I) never made it inside the gates.
Day of the show H scored weed from a friends cousin but we had nothing to smoke with. So on our way to the show we stopped at Luv boutique, like a sex toy shop. We picked out a bowl and then spiraled on perusing porn and toys etc. We finally left and had to stop for Doritos and peanut m&ms and combos. We got to event parking about a half hour before show time (7:30-8) and started baking. After about twenty minutes (so we thought) we started walking over to the gates but a flood of people were coming toward us. We asked if the opener had ended and they were like "the shows over"... Like what? It's over over, the whole thing? Yep. We missed the whole show. It was after 11pm.
Also I realize lgraceh might consider me proof of her stereotype. That's ok. Judge away. I've smoked a handful of times in my life and do not care if someone wants to unwind with weed instead of wine.
Change sauce to breakfast foods and you would understand:
I thought you were talking about making love to me, and I figured it was pretty awesome to get laid in two different FFFC, but then I realized you wanted to make love to pancakes, and I got sad.
I'd make you pancakes though. Just not eat them. Which is advisable since you're going to have sex with them.
I'm not sure I've ever expressed "such firm beliefs". I just don't agree with the use of it recreationally, even if someone using it isn't the stereotypical stoner. I don't care if it is legal or not. I also don't care if people do it- even people close to me. I don't have to agree with everything that someone does?
But you aren't just not agreeing. And you do care. Because you're judging them. Me. Anyone who has and does do it.
I apologize if it came across that I was judging you and/or other member here. That was not my intention of my OP, and I did apologize with the over generalization.
I guess I believe that just because I don't agree with something specific that someone says or does, I am not judging them as a whole person. My stepdad is a Republican, I don't agree with how he votes, but I love him for what he does for our family and how kind and caring he is. I don't agree that my grandma smokes in her home, but she is an amazingly generous person. Hell, this board has good natured debates about butter storage, but I can't imagine that anyone who is team fridge butter is judging anyone who is team counter butter as being a horrible person? I get that marijuana =/= political views =/= butter storage. I'm just trying to illustrate that disagreeing with one small part of someone's life does not mean I'm judging them.
Again, I apologize for the over generalizing. It was not my intention. It did appear judgmental. Having never tried it, I can't say that I don't agree with it because of how it made me feel. Maybe I should have said I don't agree with it because of how it smells? Or I don't agree with how it appears to negatively impact someone's life (because the negative impacts are subjective, I'm sure there is issue with that statement as well)? IDK.
I smoke pot. I haven't in a while. But when I did, I was eating a large pizza at home and ordering Thai food delivery at the same time.
Oh yah, I love the appetite stimulation. I get so much shit for it, but I am totally one of those people that can go days without eating. I hate it because I look so scrawny when I lose weight, not like a pretty-thin.
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In pot related FFFCs, the first time I went to see DMB we (H and I) never made it inside the gates.
Day of the show H scored weed from a friends cousin but we had nothing to smoke with. So on our way to the show we stopped at Luv boutique, like a sex toy shop. We picked out a bowl and then spiraled on perusing porn and toys etc. We finally left and had to stop for Doritos and peanut m&ms and combos. We got to event parking about a half hour before show time (7:30-8) and started baking. After about twenty minutes (so we thought) we started walking over to the gates but a flood of people were coming toward us. We asked if the opener had ended and they were like "the shows over"... Like what? It's over over, the whole thing? Yep. We missed the whole show. It was after 11pm.
Also I realize lgraceh might consider me proof of her stereotype. That's ok. Judge away. I've smoked a handful of times in my life and do not care if someone wants to unwind with weed instead of wine.
Change sauce to breakfast foods and you would understand:
I thought you were talking about making love to me, and I figured it was pretty awesome to get laid in two different FFFC, but then I realized you wanted to make love to pancakes, and I got sad.
I'd make you pancakes though. Just not eat them. Which is advisable since you're going to have sex with them.
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