I wasn't even gonna say anything but it got me wondering where the heck he's been! The last time I remember seeing him was when Davos helped him escape, I think?
I seriously can't explain the leap my brain made. MH even said podrick and i was like "no, that's Gendry" and he was like "okay" haha. Jeez Louise. I'll be more on my game next week. *feverishly researches online*
How messed up would it be if Sansa finds out she's pregnant with the devil's baby? That convo between Roose and Ramsay had me sweating bullets for her.
I actually had the same thought tonight. I really hope not.
How messed up would it be if Sansa finds out she's pregnant with the devil's baby? That convo between Roose and Ramsay had me sweating bullets for her.
I wasn't even gonna say anything but it got me wondering where the heck he's been! The last time I remember seeing him was when Davos helped him escape, I think?
Yea when he was rowing away from Dragonstone. Some online theories are that he'll go back and join that Brotherhood without Banners (I think that's what they were called) with Thoros of Myr and Beric Dondarrion.
Post by goldenlove3 on Apr 25, 2016 6:48:44 GMT -5
Ghost crying was sooo sad. My dog even got up off the couch and stared at the TV. She was so concerned. I definitely think the wildlings are going to come back to fight for Jon. They were in a lot of the previews. I wonder what's going to happen to the Night's Watch if they kill most of them.
The Khaleesi mourning place sounds so boring. I'm not surprised she didn't want to go. She's got shit to do.
I was so excited that Briene saved Sansa. That was awesome. I'm excited to see what happens with them but OMG I hope she doesn't end up KU.
And this might be a huge UO but Arya's storyline is not interesting to me at all. Her scenes bore me. I felt the same way about Bran before but now I'm excited to see him back because I think he's going to be a big part of the story now.
I got super emotional at Brienne and Sansa swearing their allegiance to each other. MH was like "why are you getting so weepy?" and I was like "she's finally with someone who will protect her!" I hated Sansa so much at the beginning but her story has been heartbreaking and Sophie Turner kills it every single episode.
I also feel like Cersei is going to fuck some people up this season. Hell hath no fury like a Cersei shamed.
Ghost crying was sooo sad. My dog even got up off the couch and stared at the TV. She was so concerned. I definitely think the wildlings are going to come back to fight for Jon. They were in a lot of the previews. I wonder what's going to happen to the Night's Watch if they kill most of them.
The Khaleesi mourning place sounds so boring. I'm not surprised she didn't want to go. She's got shit to do.
I was so excited that Briene saved Sansa. That was awesome. I'm excited to see what happens with them but OMG I hope she doesn't end up KU.
And this might be a huge UO but Arya's storyline is not interesting to me at all. Her scenes bore me. I felt the same way about Bran before but now I'm excited to see him back because I think he's going to be a big part of the story now.
I think the show is dragging Arya's story but I loved it in the books so that's why I like to see it progressing.
Ghost crying was sooo sad. My dog even got up off the couch and stared at the TV. She was so concerned. I definitely think the wildlings are going to come back to fight for Jon. They were in a lot of the previews. I wonder what's going to happen to the Night's Watch if they kill most of them.
The Khaleesi mourning place sounds so boring. I'm not surprised she didn't want to go. She's got shit to do.
I was so excited that Briene saved Sansa. That was awesome. I'm excited to see what happens with them but OMG I hope she doesn't end up KU.
And this might be a huge UO but Arya's storyline is not interesting to me at all. Her scenes bore me. I felt the same way about Bran before but now I'm excited to see him back because I think he's going to be a big part of the story now.
I think the show is dragging Arya's story but I loved it in the books so that's why I like to see it progressing.
I didn't read the books so that's probably why. It seems like a lot of people are excited about it so hopefully it gets better.
Ghost crying was sooo sad. My dog even got up off the couch and stared at the TV. She was so concerned. I definitely think the wildlings are going to come back to fight for Jon. They were in a lot of the previews. I wonder what's going to happen to the Night's Watch if they kill most of them.
The Khaleesi mourning place sounds so boring. I'm not surprised she didn't want to go. She's got shit to do.
I was so excited that Briene saved Sansa. That was awesome. I'm excited to see what happens with them but OMG I hope she doesn't end up KU.
And this might be a huge UO but Arya's storyline is not interesting to me at all. Her scenes bore me. I felt the same way about Bran before but now I'm excited to see him back because I think he's going to be a big part of the story now.
I love that your dog was concerned - mine was a little a-hole about it. Between Ghost and Ramsay's hounds, she was growling at the TV through the whole episode. I was like bish, settle down. Those dogs could swallow you whole.
I am here! Drove 8 hours right before watching last night and was way too tired after, but I enjoyed the season premier.
Sansa is still married to Tyrion. At some point that needs to come back into play. The Ramsay marriage isn't binding in that case. Or was the Tyrion marriage invalid bc it was never consumated?
I'm excited to talk about the episode with sooooooooooooomeone!!!
I'm not bored by the Arya storyline at all. But, I think it's because I have a very different reaction to her than most. I don't think she's a badass - I think she's a fiery, immature mess. Yes, she seeks revenge and I have no issue with that, but my goodness she's bloodthirsty and a butcher. I think it's too much. And now she's gone too far with Jaquen and Jaquen's minion so they are making her learn a lesson (at least that's my theory). I want to see Arya have revenge, but I also want her to mature, grow, and realize that you atone for wrongs without being a butcher yourself.
I like Sansa. She's grown, she's changed, she's suffered and I think she'll rise out of this to be a very strong woman. I'm not going to say like Catelyn because I was not sad to Catelyn go... (I may have thrown a book when I read certain parts concerning Catelyn that we're not doing so far in the shows).
I do, however, 100% think she's pregnant with CrazyPant's kid.
Can someone remind me who the hell Gendry is/was? That picture above, while hot AF, does nothing for my memory.
One of Robert's bastard children. Ned figured out that Cersei's kids were not Robert's kids back in Season 1. Joffrey was not the next in line to be king so he sought out Robert's biological children with mistresses.
At some point, Gendry ended up with Stannis.
Stannis and Melisandre required "king's blood" to do some magicky stuff. Davos got wind of their wanting to sacrifice Gendry so he snuck himout of the castle, put him in a boat, and told him to go. Stannis had a right fit on Davos, but ultimately remained his Hand.
Irony: Loosing Gendry meant the demise of Shireen. Poor Davos.
EDIT: The fact that Cersei's children are not Robert's is what started this entire mess. Joffrey/Tommen think they're kings; Robert's bastard children have claim to be king; Stannis is like "Oh, hell - Robert had no legit heirs so I'm king once I get rid of Renly!"; but way off in the distance is a Targaryen princess who also thinks she has rights because it was Robert who ousted her father and took the throne "illegally."
Can someone remind me who the hell Gendry is/was? That picture above, while hot AF, does nothing for my memory.
One of Robert's bastard children. Ned figured out that Cersei's kids were not Robert's kids back in Season 1. Joffrey was not the next in line to be king so he sought out Robert's biological children with mistresses.
At some point, Gendry ended up with Stannis.
Stannis and Melisandre required "king's blood" to do some magicky stuff. Davos got wind of their wanting to sacrifice Gendry so he snuck himout of the castle, put him in a boat, and told him to go. Stannis had a right fit on Davos, but ultimately remained his Hand.
Irony: Loosing Gendry meant the demise of Shireen. Poor Davos.
EDIT: The fact that Cersei's children are not Robert's is what started this entire mess. Joffrey/Tommen think they're kings; Robert's bastard children have claim to be king; Stannis is like "Oh, hell - Robert had no legit heirs so I'm king once I get rid of Renly!"; but way off in the distance is a Targaryen princess who also thinks she has rights because it was Robert who ousted her father and took the throne "illegally."
They all have a claim. Who will win?
Most detailed response ever! My brain only has so much room to keep all these characters and story lines straight, but I think it's coming back to me. He was the blacksmith, right? And was on the road with Arya when she was pretending to be a boy?
I'm excited to talk about the episode with sooooooooooooomeone!!!
I'm not bored by the Arya storyline at all. But, I think it's because I have a very different reaction to her than most. I don't think she's a badass - I think she's a fiery, immature mess. Yes, she seeks revenge and I have no issue with that, but my goodness she's bloodthirsty and a butcher. I think it's too much. And now she's gone too far with Jaquen and Jaquen's minion so they are making her learn a lesson (at least that's my theory). I want to see Arya have revenge, but I also want her to mature, grow, and realize that you atone for wrongs without being a butcher yourself.
I like Sansa. She's grown, she's changed, she's suffered and I think she'll rise out of this to be a very strong woman. I'm not going to say like Catelyn because I was not sad to Catelyn go... (I may have thrown a book when I read certain parts concerning Catelyn that we're not doing so far in the shows).
I do, however, 100% think she's pregnant with CrazyPant's kid.
Could not have put this better myself. Arya reminds me of so many of my students who pose as real badasses but are really just little marshmallows with a hard candy shell. They're rife with abandonment issues and just need someone to take care of them.
Arya's quest for revenge is just a symptom of her aimlessness to me. I actually am not interested in her becoming a Faceless Man. I want her to reunite with Sansa and their little brothers so they can both have a family again... but this is not that kind of show.
Could not have put this better myself. Arya reminds me of so many of my students who pose as real badasses but are really just little marshmallows with a hard candy shell. They're rife with abandonment issues and just need someone to take care of them.
Arya's quest for revenge is just a symptom of her aimlessness to me. I actually am not interested in her becoming a Faceless Man. I want her to reunite with Sansa and their little brothers so they can both have a family again... but this is not that kind of show.
Agh!! I'm usually all alone in this viewpoint! YAY!
My husband says that the Arya of the books is not quite as ruthless as the TV show version. He says she has more control and purpose. I have no idea since I've only read two of the books (oddly, the first and third).
Could not have put this better myself. Arya reminds me of so many of my students who pose as real badasses but are really just little marshmallows with a hard candy shell. They're rife with abandonment issues and just need someone to take care of them.
Arya's quest for revenge is just a symptom of her aimlessness to me. I actually am not interested in her becoming a Faceless Man. I want her to reunite with Sansa and their little brothers so they can both have a family again... but this is not that kind of show.
Agh!! I'm usually all alone in this viewpoint! YAY!
My husband says that the Arya of the books is not quite as ruthless as the TV show version. He says she has more control and purpose. I have no idea since I've only read two of the books (oddly, the first and third).
I think there is also an excerpt somewhere (either at the end of the last book, or on GRRMartin's blog) from the next book that has the book Arya acting a bit more like the TV Arya. I don't want to get spoilery for those who want to be surprised, so that's all all say. Maybe the showrunners knew that was the direction the books were headed and have bumped the timeline up.
Post by housecarder on Apr 25, 2016 11:55:45 GMT -5
One thing I love about Arya is that she never wanted to be married off for political gain and always wanted to be a warrior. She's getting that, even if it's not what she expected and it's harder than she is prepared for.
I'm excited to talk about the episode with sooooooooooooomeone!!!
I'm not bored by the Arya storyline at all. But, I think it's because I have a very different reaction to her than most. I don't think she's a badass - I think she's a fiery, immature mess. Yes, she seeks revenge and I have no issue with that, but my goodness she's bloodthirsty and a butcher. I think it's too much. And now she's gone too far with Jaquen and Jaquen's minion so they are making her learn a lesson (at least that's my theory). I want to see Arya have revenge, but I also want her to mature, grow, and realize that you atone for wrongs without being a butcher yourself.
I like Sansa. She's grown, she's changed, she's suffered and I think she'll rise out of this to be a very strong woman. I'm not going to say like Catelyn because I was not sad to Catelyn go... (I may have thrown a book when I read certain parts concerning Catelyn that we're not doing so far in the shows).
I do, however, 100% think she's pregnant with CrazyPant's kid.
Could not have put this better myself. Arya reminds me of so many of my students who pose as real badasses but are really just little marshmallows with a hard candy shell. They're rife with abandonment issues and just need someone to take care of them.
Arya's quest for revenge is just a symptom of her aimlessness to me. I actually am not interested in her becoming a Faceless Man. I want her to reunite with Sansa and their little brothers so they can both have a family again... but this is not that kind of show.
Yes, the faceless man thing is what bores me. I liked Arya up until she got to Bravos. I think she just seems so disconnected from the rest of the story. I don't get where they're going with it.
Ah, but I see her as having a goal but learning about herself.
Jaquen was awe-inspiring to her. He killed like she wished that she could. She wanted to be like him. She thought she'd learn to be an assassin with ninja skills so she could fulfill her revenge.
But, she's learning that it's not that simple. There are trade offs. She's far too selfish and self-involved to be Jaquen. Ultimately, I hope she learns some humility, control and respect for her abilities to take a human life. I think she's lacking that right now.
But, I could be reading her character wrong. The producers may not think her actions over the top and we are supposed to think Jaquen is too controlling. I don't know. But the way everyone thinks she's just fab and not in the wrong tells me that my interpretation could be incorrect.
Ah, but I see her as having a goal but learning about herself.
Jaquen was awe-inspiring to her. He killed like she wished that she could. She wanted to be like him. She thought she'd learn to be an assassin with ninja skills so she could fulfill her revenge.
But, she's learning that it's not that simple. There are trade offs. She's far too selfish and self-involved to be Jaquen. Ultimately, I hope she learns some humility, control and respect for her abilities to take a human life. I think she's lacking that right now.
But, I could be reading her character wrong. The producers may not think her actions over the top and we are supposed to think Jaquen is too controlling. I don't know. But the way everyone thinks she's just fab and not in the wrong tells me that my interpretation could be incorrect.
No I think she needs a healthy dose of self control and respect. She is very young.
I think rablissful's totally right about the direwolves, with one small change:
I think that when Lady was killed, Sansa's bond to the Stark family was cut. I get the point about the unfair treatment, but I think it's deeper than that. From that point on, Sansa was not a Stark and has been grasping at something to belong to.
On that note, I think it's important that Ghost is alive. Let's face it, Rob's death was not final until Grey Wind was murdered. It was, of course, physically, but Grey Wind was the move that knocked the wind out of me.
I think rablissful 's totally right about the direwolves, with one small change:
I think that when Lady was killed, Sansa's bond to the Stark family was cut. I get the point about the unfair treatment, but I think it's deeper than that. From that point on, Sansa was not a Stark and has been grasping at something to belong to.
On that note, I think it's important that Ghost is alive. Let's face it, Rob's death was not final until Grey Wind was murdered. It was, of course, physically, but Grey Wind was the move that knocked the wind out of me.
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