So, I have a question too, I usually use wondfo OPKS and generally don't get a +. There were a few cycles where I did but it is not the norm.
Since I need to really try to confirm O this cycle, would you get one of the digital type tests? I don't even know what's out there, like the ClearBlue Ovulations ones? Is that even what they are? I'm at CD 11 now so I should be O-ing later this week anyway; I'd normally start my OPKs tomorrow, maybe Wednesday.
I used the clearblue digitals with great success - not the one that offers the *flashing* smiley face though, I hate those.
Important ETA: I hate the flashy smiley face ones!
Can I start them this far along in my cycle? And why not the flashing ones if you don't mind me aski ng?
I used the clearblue digitals with great success - not the one that offers the *flashing* smiley face though, I hate those.
Important ETA: I hate the flashy smiley face ones!
Can I start them this far along in my cycle? And why not the flashing ones if you don't mind me aski ng?
You definitely still have time to start them. I tested twice a day starting 3-4 days before I usually ovulate. The original digitals either show a smiley face (LH surge detected) or an open circle (no surge) while the flashing smiley just makes it more complicated by adding in "possible" fertile days.
Me: 31 Wife: 30. Legally married 2008, thanks CA! TTC #1 since 11/14 using donor sperm. IUIs Jan-Aug 2015 BFN Sept & OCT 2015 added Femara. BFN Saw RE December 2015. IUI with Clomid & Trigger Jan 2016 BFN IUI #13 with Follistim April 2016 BFFN IVF #1 July 2016. 14R, 10F, 6 Day 5 embryos. 4 PGS normal embabies!
ugaqueencity , I totally get where you are coming from. Every time we did IUI, the RE would come in and say the sperm was excellent or super. I'm so glad that everything is normal with H, don't get me wrong, but it stung a little every time as if it was my fault it fails. In reality it isn't anyone's fault or anything we can seem to control. I'm glad your H is supportive, and making a plan to go forward will most likely help the situation.
Hey everyone, I only have a couple of minutes-work is rough this week. I will be back tomorrow to tag and pass out love! We are moving ahead, one step at a time. H and I got the legal paperwork all filled out so that's in the mail today! I also had an appointment this morning with my primary care doctor and got the full infectious disease panel ordered and drawn and pap done so that's up to date and good for a year! 11 tubes of blood is what they took today plus whatever swaps and such. My doc thinks it's super dumb and a waste of time to have to do it every year since we have no risk factors but was nice enough to put the order in and appease the RE. It was super nice because now insurance will cover it! Next step, H has his appointment on the 19th to do his testing and then wait for the June 6th appointment. Oh yeah, and wait for the lawyer's contract to come back so everyone can sign!
QOTW: We have been super open about our journey and so I have shared something each day. I am trying to do more educating on realities of living with IF and that parenthood comes in lots of shapes and forms this year. I got the idea from doing embryo adoption as so many people have never heard of it or understand how it works!
Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Apr 25, 2016 19:57:40 GMT -5
ceejay, first cycle, we used Gonal-F to try to save the cycle so it wouldn't be a bust, and got two follies. Second cycle had an upped dosage and only one good follie.
So yeah, I think I feel comfortable moving on. I'm trying not to focus on the negative of the meds not working very well and instead on what the next possibilities are.
butlerfan, I'm glad your doctor was at least understanding of why you didn't want to be on BCP ugaqueencity, I totally hear you on feeling like it's your "fault". We first new I wasn't ovulating so I spent months feeling like it was my fault. Then we found out we also had MFI and part of me was glad because now I know DH can't blame me (not that he ever would but in my head it's there). *hugs* to you and know it is NOT your fault! siouxsieq, I believe TCF and specifically this group has saved my sanity during this hell called IF. Glad you are feeling supported and learning a lot! snakefisherbub, Sorry for the not great appt. I bookmarked the NIAW link you posted. When we do come out on FB eventually I will probably link to it, awareness week or not. JustJudy, glad you have found support through your posts about IF rooskie, I LOLed at daycare for sperm ironbaby, glad you were able to find a much cheaper place for your HSG! I hope you can get it done this cycle. ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪, sorry you find yourself here but welcome mugster, I love when you post somewhere because I'm obsessed with your siggy gif. I don't know why but I have been since I first joined! Rama, what's your concerns about starting Provera? ceejay, I'm sorry your IUI didn't work and that you're stuck with a break for your next cycle. easilyunamused, I know my RE wasn't concerned that I seemed to have 1 good follicle on Clomid. I ended up switching to Femara because Clomid made my lining too thin. I also had 1 good follicle on Femara. I think you can ask your RE but they may not be concerns with it. Also, I had the same realization about a 2016 baby when my friend asked me what I hoped to do this year and I replied "Have a baby" and then realized I wouldn't have a 2016 baby. Seeing the BMB also messed with me. *hugs* thechickencoop, Do you feel like next time you meet with your RE you will feel empowered to ask questions and make sure everything is explained to you? cateyes, OMG 11 vials of blood makes me want to pass out! So happy you guys are moving forward!
ceejay - Thanks for starting! Sorry the IUI was a bust, but glad there is a silver lining with your Italy trip butlerfan - Glad your doctor is being understanding ((hugs)) ugaqueencity - I totally understand how you are feeling - when I was waking up after my endo lap and they told me that they suspected my tubes were blocked in addition to the endo, I just kept crying and apologizing to DH for being "broken" and he was crying and telling me that I was perfect and didn't need to apologize for anything. IF is such a fucking hot mess of emotions. Big hugs to you peaseblossom55, JustJudy, easilyunamused, teachermomtobe - FX so hard for you all!!! siouxsieq, welcome! snakefisherbub - ugh, I'm so sorry about the disappointing news - hope you can get working with an RE to figure out a plan - big hugs rooskie, hope the appointment Wednesday goes well! ironbaby, yikes on that first price!! Glad you found another place to get your HSG. Mine was about $800 - luckily the hospital let me set up a payment plan with no interest. ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ - sorry about the BFN and that you find yourself here - FX for your next IUI Rama - big hugs to you thechickencoop - glad the first RE appt seemed to go well! As for OPKs, my RE told me to use the original CB digitals (the ones that are just smiley or circle), but I never turned one of those positive. Luckily I kept using my cheapie BFP brand OPKs as well, and got a positive with those. But he said that the digital ones work for almost all his patients, so may be worth a shot - it's not too late to start it this cycle cateyes - yay, that's great that everything is moving ahead!!
AFM, I'm CD11 of natural cycle 4. I'm honestly so over these natural cycles, but in part due to finances I'm waiting it out till July to start meds.
QOTW: I'm not on social media, but I did just get a little IF "Hope" necklace from Etsy (it arrived today!) and if people ask about it I will tell them. I've been getting more open with discussing it with people. The cat was sort of out of the bag with my family when I had my lap the day before Thanksgiving while everyone was in town.
Post by thechickencoop on Apr 25, 2016 21:37:53 GMT -5
teachermomtobe I was actually glad that I really didn't have too many! She explained some things but H was truly lost and was really just deferring to me. I knew mostly what to expect thanks to you fine women That was really the gist of it. I can see where H was coming from, like, what the hell is this woman talking about? If I hadn't been here or charting, etc, I would have been completely overwhelmed.
Post by thechickencoop on Apr 25, 2016 21:39:41 GMT -5
And thanks JustJudy and daisy818! I might stop tomorrow and see if our Walmart has some of the CB ones *without* the flashing face! Haha. But I'm glad you mentioned using my wondfos too; that makes sense to cover my bases.
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
AFM, I had my first acupuncture treatment yesterday and it went really well. It was a nice, relaxing environment and the acupuncturist was super sweet and seemed like she really cared about what she does. She wasn't trying to sell me on any plans or anything and wasn't making me any types of promises. It was more of a "let's see if this can help you" type of thing, which I appreciate. She's going to check in with me later in the week to see how I felt and then we're going to go from there.
As for RE stuff.. I feel weird going back there so I've been putting off setting up an appointment. A little history for those who haven't followed my posts - My RE refused to order me CD3 bloodwork (she only tests TSH and prolactin) so I went to my gyn to get it done. They all work together and I know they've communicated about my testing because my gyn flat out told me he read the emails I sent my RE about the BW. So I got my BW back and my AMH came in a little high, at 5.58 but no one ever contacted me about the results. I want to do a few more IUIs but I haven't seen my RE since last July and then we had that awkward disagreement over email a few months ago. Should I just make an appointment and act like everything is normal and not bring up the BW? I just feel super uncomfortable with this situation.
QOTW: No, I'm not out about my IF. Only a couple of people IRL know about it and I've pretty much regretted telling each and every one of them. I feel like it just gives people something to gossip about.
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
butlerfan, It sucks when you're stuck between a rock and a hard place with decisions. I hope your body adjusts to the HRT quickly.
ugaqueencity, I'm sorry you're going through this. Big hugs. My H is convinced or our lack of pregnancy is his fault only and he hasn't even had an SA yet.
snakefisherbub, Hugs for the set back. That's incredibly frustrating.
Just chugging along. Waiting for H to contact the doctor to get an SA. I hate waiting. I hate nagging. Grrr.
QOTW: I have mentioned it to some family and a close friend or two that we're struggling. As far as social media, I haven't disclosed that we're struggling but I share a lot of things that are IF related.
butlerfan So many hugs. So glad that you doctor was understaning and willing to meet you halfway. ugaqueencity FX the sonogram yields better news and you can work out a plan with your doctor to move forward. I understand totally. I joke with MH about it being "my fault" we can't get pregnant and about him having "super sperm" but there are days when I am unintentionally really bitter and resentful towards him. I know he can't help it and it is in no way his fault that this is the card I was dealt but it hurts. Especially when I'm the one potentially facing surgery and having to get the HSG's, transvaginal u/s, while all he had to do is jack off in a cup peaseblossom55 Crossing all the things for you! . siouxsieq FX for the repeat SA and starting progesterone. snakefisherbub I am so sorry. *huge hugs* JustJudy FX for you this cycle! rooskie Glad that YH's testosterone improved! ironbaby FX you are able to get your HSG scheduled in time for this cycle! ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ Sorry you have found yourself here but welcome! Sorry for the BFN. Rama Sorry about this long ass cycle. ceejay So sorry IUI #1 was a bust. FX you are able to get a few days in your FW before your trip. Drink all the wine! easilyunamused I would bring it up to your RE. FX the Clomid is more successful this cycle! teachermomtobe FX for this cycle & with betas or bust! thechickencoop GL with all your testing! cateyes Eeek, so happy for you! daisy818 I feel ya! FX July gets here quickly for you! lilsneezy How awkward. Honestly, I would just make the appointment and only acknowledge it if it's brought up. thelittleredm FX he gets his SA done soon.
AFM, as expected, the records were never sent to my obgyn. So, I am assuming that my records were lost and am washing my hands of the whole situation and my old doctor. I called my RE to ask if I could repeat my HSG and just start from scratch, testing-wise, with him. The nurse got back to me and says that he wants me to do either the HSG or hysteroscopy before we proceed. Unfortunately, both procedures will be OOP since the hospital he does them at does not accept my insurance. The hysteroscopy alone was about $3k. Cue ugly crying. I have my annual scheduled with my gyn May 10th, where I will ask him if there is any way he can refer me to a local dr. who can do a hysteroscopy. If not, we are done pursuing treatment until we can save up that kind of money. I have been a crying mess all morning because I am so distraught over this. If my old dr. hadn't dicked me around for 3-4 months, we could have already been preparing for this scenario. MH was my rock this morning because I was falling down a huge hole of despair. I am just trying to breathe and take it one day at a time until the 10th.
QOTW - MH and I have been open about our IF struggles on FB since last year. I did post something again in regards to NIAW yesterday.
Hi, everyone. This is my first time posting. cateyes , can you add me?
We've been TTC since February of 2015, I got diagnosed with PCOS, and we've started treatment with an RE this year. Our plan from the beginning was to try three TI cycles, and then move straight to IVF (because insurance covers IUI and IVF the same way).
I just got a BFN for our second cycle. I took Letrozole both cycles, first at a 2.5mg dosage, then at 5mg. The response from the oral medication doesn't seem to be doing much. The RE office is suggesting we try injectables for this third TI cycle. Does anyone have any thoughts on/experience with this? My initial thought is to go for it, but I am worried there are red flags that I don't know about.
QOTW: No plans to post about it. However, I am open with most people, just on a more intimate conversation level.
ugaqueencity , you're not a shitty person. I had the same thoughts initially. I just had to make myself not think about it like that. Easier said than done! peaseblossom55 , I hope you feel better! And FX for this cycle. snakefisherbub , all the hugs for you. I hope you and your RE can come up with a plan. JustJudy , FX for this cycle!
A little late to this party, as always, and I'm sure someone has already said this (yes, I didnt read this whole thread) but I wish we had done an inject cycle before our IVF as I did not respond the way my numbers said I should have. I wish I had gambled with a few hundred dollars instead of a few thousand. Clearly, an IUI inject cycle wouldn't have brought my maturation issues to light, but I would have been a little more cautious of it all.
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
kawaiikitsune I'm so pissed about your whole situation. I'm just so angry that the doctor fucked up so much. My fingers are crossed that your OB/GYN can find a way to order the test so it will be covered.
Last Edit: Apr 26, 2016 14:37:19 GMT -5 by JustJudy
Me: 31 Wife: 30. Legally married 2008, thanks CA! TTC #1 since 11/14 using donor sperm. IUIs Jan-Aug 2015 BFN Sept & OCT 2015 added Femara. BFN Saw RE December 2015. IUI with Clomid & Trigger Jan 2016 BFN IUI #13 with Follistim April 2016 BFFN IVF #1 July 2016. 14R, 10F, 6 Day 5 embryos. 4 PGS normal embabies!
butlerfan So many hugs. So glad that you doctor was understaning and willing to meet you halfway. ugaqueencity FX the sonogram yields better news and you can work out a plan with your doctor to move forward. peaseblossom55 Crossing all the things for you! I understand totally. I joke with MH about it being "my fault" we can't get pregnant and about him having "super sperm" but there are days when I am unintentionally really bitter and resentful towards him. I know he can't help it and it is in no way his fault that this is the card I was dealt but it hurts. Especially when I'm the one potentially facing surgery and having to get the HSG's, transvaginal u/s, while all he had to do is jack off in a cup. siouxsieq FX for the repeat SA and starting progesterone. snakefisherbub I am so sorry. *huge hugs* JustJudy FX for you this cycle! rooskie Glad that YH's testosterone improved! ironbaby FX you are able to get your HSG scheduled in time for this cycle! ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ Sorry you have found yourself here but welcome! Sorry for the BFN. Rama Sorry about this long ass cycle. ceejay So sorry IUI #1 was a bust. FX you are able to get a few days in your FW before your trip. Drink all the wine! easilyunamused I would bring it up to your RE. FX the Clomid is more successful this cycle! teachermomtobe FX for this cycle & with betas or bust! thechickencoop GL with all your testing! cateyes Eeek, so happy for you! daisy818 I feel ya! FX July gets here quickly for you! lilsneezy How awkward. Honestly, I would just make the appointment and only acknowledge it if it's brought up. thelittleredm FX he gets his SA done soon.
AFM, as expected, the records were never sent to my obgyn. So, I am assuming that my records were lost and am washing my hands of the whole situation and my old doctor. I called my RE to ask if I could repeat my HSG and just start from scratch, testing-wise, with him. The nurse got back to me and says that he wants me to do either the HSG or hysteroscopy before we proceed. Unfortunately, both procedures will be OOP since the hospital he does them at does not accept my insurance. The hysteroscopy alone was about $3k. Cue ugly crying. I have my annual scheduled with my gyn May 10th, where I will ask him if there is any way he can refer me to a local dr. who can do a hysteroscopy. If not, we are done pursuing treatment until we can save up that kind of money. I have been a crying mess all morning because I am so distraught over this. If my old dr. hadn't dicked me around for 3-4 months, we could have already been preparing for this scenario. MH was my rock this morning because I was falling down a huge hole of despair. I am just trying to breathe and take it one day at a time until the 10th.
QOTW - MH and I have been open about our IF struggles on FB since last year. I did post something again in regards to NIAW yesterday.
I'm about 10 seconds away from cunt punting your OBGYN. Like, straight up no words, just bam.
I'm so sorry and I hope there is a way this ends well for you. Someone has to work with you, right? RIGHT!?
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
Not bunches of exciting things going on here, just patiently waiting for Thursday morning to roll around. I picked up my devil spawn pills so I can have a soft, dilated cervix at 8:30 am on Thursday. Overall, I've BTDT with this surgery so I'm just ready to be done with it.
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Apr 26, 2016 15:00:28 GMT -5
Rage, kawaiikitsune, rage is what I feel for you right now!!! So glad YH is there for you. One day at a time, like you said. FX so hard that something can get figured out.
Hi, everyone. This is my first time posting. cateyes , can you add me?
We've been TTC since February of 2015, I got diagnosed with PCOS, and we've started treatment with an RE this year. Our plan from the beginning was to try three TI cycles, and then move straight to IVF (because insurance covers IUI and IVF the same way).
I just got a BFN for our second cycle. I took Letrozole both cycles, first at a 2.5mg dosage, then at 5mg. The response from the oral medication doesn't seem to be doing much. The RE office is suggesting we try injectables for this third TI cycle. Does anyone have any thoughts on/experience with this? My initial thought is to go for it, but I am worried there are red flags that I don't know about.
QOTW: No plans to post about it. However, I am open with most people, just on a more intimate conversation level.
ugaqueencity , you're not a shitty person. I had the same thoughts initially. I just had to make myself not think about it like that. Easier said than done! peaseblossom55 , I hope you feel better! And FX for this cycle. snakefisherbub , all the hugs for you. I hope you and your RE can come up with a plan. JustJudy , FX for this cycle!
A little late to this party, as always, and I'm sure someone has already said this (yes, I didnt read this whole thread) but I wish we had done an inject cycle before our IVF as I did not respond the way my numbers said I should have. I wish I had gambled with a few hundred dollars instead of a few thousand. Clearly, an IUI inject cycle wouldn't have brought my maturation issues to light, but I would have been a little more cautious of it all.
TL;DR: I'd do an inject cycle
Good luck!
Thank you so much for the feedback! I called today to get things set up.
Post by wannabmama on Apr 26, 2016 15:05:47 GMT -5
kawaiikitsune I'm so enraged for you!! Ugh a million times. I'm so glad YH is supportive and helping you deal with things...and you're right. One day at a time. Oh but man is it frustrating!!
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
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Post by teachermomtobe on Apr 26, 2016 15:44:24 GMT -5
lilsneezy, glad your acupuncture appt went well. Hmmm, about the RE...I don't know what I would do. Is there another one you could go to? If not, maybe acknowledge it as while you respect their opinion you were advocating for yourself and needed to make sure all the i's were dotted and t's crossed. kawaiikitsune, so many hugs for you. Where can we line up to beat up your old RE? Can you report them to some medical board or something? That's just ridiculous! Also ridiculous how much the tests will cost you out of pocket! IF needs to be recognized as a disease and covered accordingly by insurance.
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