hangry I can't swallow pills right now because of how sick I get do I take pink stork prenatal spray. Spray it on the inside of your cheek twice a day. Life saver. Amazon
I have never heard of such a thing. I am intrigued!
This is not regulated by the FDA which all prenatal vitamins are required to have. I would have serious concerns taking this . There is no guarantee you are getting the recommended doses of vitamins and minerals recommended during pregnancy.
aggiebug I see your point, but if she can't take pills or keep food down, the spray is probably better than taking nothing at all.
I would say that is possibly true. Since she hasn't tried gummies I would definitely go that way first. Then talk to her Dr since they can prescribe liquid drops that are generally tolerated by the most sick. This spray could very well be just as beneficial as taking nothing at all. Just a caution to those using it or looking into it.
The lack of fda regulation over most vitamins and other supplements is why I will always take a prenatal vitamin even when I am well beyond my pregnancy years unless otherwise directed by my physician. Prenatal and children's vitamins are the only ones regulated.
Be careful about holistic supplements. Some of the less reputable ones have unlisted ingredients and additives that can be dangerous. I don't know anything about this product, but speaking generally there have been some issues in the news with less reputable brands. Hopefully they have some third-party review and certification as to their labeling accuracy.
My MIL once got a holistic cough syrup for my son and my mom (a pharmacist) lost her mind because of some of the things she was reading about this issue.
^^ Hopefully this doesn't sound preachy?
Ugh don't get me started on holistic crap especially the homeopathic stuff. And there is so much out there for kids as medicines don't generally work for kids and parents want to try something.
Eating and never knowing how I'm going to feel afterwards. Still hungry, satisfied, painfully full, bloated, tired, gross... Add me to the angry acne list. It has gotten a bit better but I still get some nasty ones. Crying in the car over nothing. I cried listening to a Sam Smith song and the worst was crying to a Justin Bieber song. WTF? Any "abnormal" work around the house or working out makes my muscles sore the next day. I painted cabinets yesterday, today my legs and shoulders are sore. I was pretty active pre-pregnancy and went to the gym regularly. I have no motivation to workout Mental sluggishness. I'm making more mistakes at work and feel like it's taking me forever to get anything done! Unnecessary worry about baby. I'm not going through a high risk pregnancy but I'm worried how baby is affected when if I get sick, if baby is healthy (the answer is yes), the many unknowns. Last pregnancy was awesome. I was so laid back and comfortable with myself. Now, I just feel unsure.
Raves: Some days, my sense of smell is really heightened and luckily I"m usually around things that smell good. Feel baby movements. Love it. Comfy clothes. Mine were comfortable before but I forgot how much more comfort I get in pregnancy clothes.
I shop at natural food stores and take vitamins and or supplements from there. I'm fully educated about what's going into my body for me and my baby, don't make assumptions that I am clueless.
Judge away.
You are always welcome to take what you want to take, I just wanted to caution against unregulated prenatal 'vitamins'. There is a difference between judging and sharing information. Most don't realize how unregulated supplements are and when something such as this type of product comes up it is important to share that it very well may contain absolutely no vitamins or minerals in it. There is a reason they are actually regulated unlike other vitamins- because the nutrients they provide are vital to a healthy pregnancy and ensuring they are there is important. Multiple studies have shown that unregulated vitamins have anything from absolutely no labeled vitamin in them, only vitamins available in unusable forms to our body (this is actually a real problem with many plant based sources of vitamins) or doses higher than the recommended daily intake.
And we all eat chemicals everyday. Chemicals are everything and vital to our being. Water is a chemical. As I have said before nutrition is a soapbox subject of mine and they includes correcting misinformation and addressing the fear mongering buzzwords that are so prevalent in this social media age.
I didn't realize we could do raves too so I'm adding!!!
Raves: Duh! Being pregnant, I will take a million thousand symptoms right now because it means I've got some babies on the way. But this one is obvious.
People being nicer and always asking how I'm doing, how I'm feeling, don't push myself, holding doors, letting me cut food lines, giving up their seat, etc. I thought this would come much later but it's already happening. I really don't take advantage and rarely let people do things because I want to be as active/make least excuses as possible but it's nice.
Increased sex drive/sensitivity/orgasms in my sleep - but conversely the rant is MH is afraid of poking the babies by having sex. Yes I know this sounds ridiculous but he doesnt think so, soooo BJs since week 6...
So much comfy clothes!!! Leggings FTW. #errrrrrday. It's borderline appropriate for our office but no one will say a word because of the pregnancy (and there's another woman who does it).
Well you are right about one thing aggiebug, nutrition is your soapbox. Just be careful how you come off, especially with nervous first time Mom's, the information surrounding every decision they make is very, very overwhelming and the pressure to make the 'right' decision is real.
Ha I am very much you do you and the camp there are to many overly cautious recommendations for pregnant women and parents of young kids. All I was trying to do was give the basic guideline to use an fda regulated prenatal vitamin (and in that same vane a fda regulated kids vitamin to your kids when needed). Ask your doctor they will say the same thing for the same exact reasons I do.
Just because I also said I have issues with homeopathics doesn't mean I care if you use them but it clearly got your defenses up
Have done gummies. Last pregnancy. Have talked to my Doctor. I'm not some person who just blindly takes something because it sounds cool.
I have HG. I can barely keep a meal down longer than an hour most days. The product was made specifically for women with my condition.
Please don't presume. It's honestly insulting.
I am sorry you presumed I was presuming you were blindly taking something. I am merely stating that it isn't fda regulated and thus just as likely to contain no vitamins as some. If it truly is the only thing you can possibly tolerate then worth the chance, but I merely think it is best to start with one's with fda backing or recommended by your Dr.
Let's change it from 'nutrition' soapbox to FDA soapbox.
Nope nutrition. It's the fact that there are so many great options that I stand by only the FDA regulation, that is the best indicator as a consumer that we have of whether it's a good and safe option. The FDA regulation (or correlating government regulation in another country) is really the only reliable way of evaluating whether a vitamin will contain what it says on the label. So that is my primary guideline for prenatal vitamins, the rest is preference. Do you want a vegan vitamin? Go for it? Gummy? My preference but maybe not yours no biggie. Need extra iron? Yup you take it. You prefer a horsepill? The choice is yours!
aggiebug I see your point, but if she can't take pills or keep food down, the spray is probably better than taking nothing at all.
I don't necessarily want to open up this can of worms but i want to set the record straight. I said I gagged with pnv, but I am able to take them just about everyday. It's just the least pleasant part of my day. If I were not able to eke them down, I would definitely be going to further measures to make something work. And part of that may include looking up things like that spray. Although personally, I wouldn't take something it FDA approved. I do appreciate all the info provided. This is all a good reminder to review for yourself and not take anything from just one or two random people. Make decisions that work best for you. I am going to try to find some gummies and suffer through the horse pills in the meantime.
aggiebug I see your point, but if she can't take pills or keep food down, the spray is probably better than taking nothing at all.
I don't necessarily want to open up this can of worms but i want to set the record straight. I said I gagged with pnv, but I am able to take them just about everyday. It's just the least pleasant part of my day. If I were not able to eke them down, I would definitely be going to further measures to make something work. And part of that may include looking up things like that spray. Although personally, I wouldn't take something it FDA approved. I do appreciate all the info provided. This is all a good reminder to review for yourself and not take anything from just one or two random people. Make decisions that work best for you. I am going to try to find some gummies and suffer through the horse pills in the meantime.
Yeah sorry about that. This is the perception I had from what you said originally and a major reason I pointed it out in the first place. Fwiw I am another gummy fan. I prefer CVS flavors but I am guessing you don't have that in Canada.
We all have some awesome experiences and knowledge to share and no body will want to soon enough for fear of stepping on each other's toes. You couldn't pay me to share my opinion on this right now.
I really don't think thats what was intended here @badwolf321. You recommended a product to another person, 2 other people made posts cautioning about holistic products (because not everyone is aware of that information) and it really spiralled.
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Not directed at any one person but our board in general, I would really love to see people be able to share information (facts, research, etc) with the group as we all can use as much information as possible. MY IMPRESSION is that none of this has been done with the attempt to make anyone feel stupid, but a few times now discussions have spiralled in that direction because posts were interpreted as personal attacks. I for one appteciate any knowledge you ladies want to share with me. I do lots of my own research but it never hurts to have another perspective to consider in case I miss soemthing myself.
Ha vinolove I am sorry you got upset by what I said. I went back and read my comments before you responded and I really don't think they were negative or preachy but whatever. Yes I made a comment, separately, about homeopathics, but that was separate from my comments about the prv. And my comment about soapbox.... Yeah that was to chemicals being tossed about like they are evil and dangerous. Go read again.
and when is 'I recommend' an attack? And where did I say that? And after your responses when I was defending my original statement I think I may have said I'd suggest. Still not something I would consider an attack but whatever.
Eta and I admit because of your responses I got more defensive of my statements and sharper in words which also influenced my response to badwolf and for that I am sorry. I get it hg is hell and you do anything you possibly can to survive hg and provide nutrients to your kid. You havey deepest sympathies for struggling with it. I think you might wear a super hero cape. My response wasn't as kind as it could have been and again I apologize. I did say there is a time these might be worth a try and I mean it. I am glad you can tolerate them, I sincerely apologize if I made you feel guilty again not my intention I know you are doing your best and that is what matters.
Have you ever you received a text message from your mom, or husband, or friend - and read it in an offensive way when it was intended innocently enough, and these are people you know.
We are part of an online message board, we don't really know each other, and all we have to go on is our "text" conversations and our interpretations. Therefore it's fully possible that one person doesn't mean to come across a certain way, but maybe does to Internet strangers who don't know her IRL. There have been a few members that I really can't "read" here and always take their posts as condescending, when they're probably not that way at all. Could be me, could be them - could be that they're just a little forward and I'm just a little sensitive.
Regardless, before we draw our battle lines let's take some more time to get to know each other. :-)
Ha vinolove I am sorry you got upset by what I said. I went back and read my comments before you responded and I really don't think they were negative or preachy but whatever. Yes I made a comment, separately, about homeopathics, but that was separate from my comments about the prv. And my comment about soapbox.... Yeah that was to chemicals being tossed about like they are evil and dangerous. Go read again.
and when is 'I recommend' an attack? And where did I say that? And after your responses when I was defending my original statement I think I may have said I'd suggest. Still not something I would consider an attack but whatever.
Eta and I admit because of your responses I got more defensive of my statements and sharper in words which also influenced my response to badwolf and for that I am sorry. I get it hg is hell and you do anything you possibly can to survive hg and provide nutrients to your kid. You havey deepest sympathies for struggling with it. I think you might wear a super hero cape. My response wasn't as kind as it could have been and again I apologize. I did say there is a time these might be worth a try and I mean it. I am glad you can tolerate them, I sincerely apologize if I made you feel guilty again not my intention I know you are doing your best and that is what matters.
THIS. This is exactly what should have been said when tgrimes reminded you that badwolf couldn't even keep a pill down.
I have feels/words on using my responses as a reason to your sharper responses to badwolf, but I'll keep those at bay. I'm honestly done with this conversation, we're going in circles and frankly it's boring to me.
Tbh I was always referencing hangry in my original posts because she was the one it was suggested to. And tgrimes response I thought was in reference to hangry as well so that is how I replied. I am sorry I am not good at keeping up with who has hg and who lives where etc.
Post by sophiegrace on May 24, 2016 11:23:43 GMT -5
This entire thread is just ridiculous. What could have been a legitimately good discussion and instead it unraveled into pettiness and hypocrisy. There's nothing being learned or gained from this at this point. Leave it alone.
This entire thread is just ridiculous. What could have been a legitimately good discussion and instead it unraveled into pettiness and hypocrisy. There's nothing being learned or gained from this at this point. Leave it alone.
I completely get what you are saying and I respect it; but when someone is truly suffering, as we have here, this specific prenatal vitamin discussion is between a Dr and a patient. It's not our job to suggest and recommend, it's our job, as a community, to hair pat and/or hugs. Sympathy was lacking, that's what was bothering me.
The support from this community has gotten me through some pretty dark days so I agree that we each have to uphold our end of the bargain when it comes to give and take. BUT she explained herself over and over. And you guys just kept coming. You can't call someone self righteous and then act in the same manner.
I know pharmaceuticals. I know homeopathic and holistic modalities. I've studied all of it for many years and would have loved to have contributed to this. But immediately felt uncomfortable and didn't feel like getting attacked if my experiences came off as being on a soap box or possibly going against someone's opinions. I feel like this could have been handled with a, hey I don't agree with your tone/words/thoughts/feels, and dropped.
The support from this community has gotten me through some pretty dark days so I agree that we each have to uphold our end of the bargain when it comes to give and take. BUT she explained herself over and over. And you guys just kept coming. You can't call someone self righteous and then act in the same manner.
I know pharmaceuticals. I know homeopathic and holistic modalities. I've studied all of it for many years and would have loved to have contributed to this. But immediately felt uncomfortable and didn't feel like getting attacked if my experiences came off as being on a soap box or possibly going against someone's opinions. I feel like this could have been handled with a, hey I don't agree with your tone/words/thoughts/feels, and dropped.
This comes off a really rude. I'm actually offended, which takes a lot on a forum. It's rude to say 'you guys kept coming' when she kept preaching. So the support goes to the person preaching and not the person/people who deserve it who are suffering? Please tell me I'm wrong.
Yes, lets all talk about our experiences and values but we need to know when preaching comes in full effect, that wasn't recognized here, at all.
I really hope we can all move past this and doesn't create sides for other conversations in the future.
I'm honestly super confused and made sure to reread the entire thread to make sure I wasn't missing something. She stated her opinion and what she would do for herself. You disagreed. That is where BOTH parties should have realized well fuck this is going nowhere. What unraveled after that isn't what I was referring to. By then it was obvious that everyone was upset and I know I'm the minority, but I hate hate hate discussing anything while upset. Words get said that can't be unsaid. This probably has a lot to do with me wishing things would just take a bit of a pause for a moment when they get heated.
Post by sophiegrace on May 24, 2016 12:34:34 GMT -5
vinolove I'm truly upset that I offended you. Especially since my entire intent was just trying to wave a white flag for the whole thread and stop the angriness. I deal with a lot of mean and angry people during my normal day and I don't alway read things the way everyone else might.
I got poop thrown at me yesterday. By a grown adult. That does not happen to people on a normal basis. So this thread? I just didn't know why everyone was so mad. Honestly. I should've just butted out and minded my own business bc i offered zero help.
Okay, I think everything has been said that can be said by both sides and this conversation has come to an end.
Moving forward, let's just be mindful to choose our words carefully. You can't always prevent someone from getting their feelings hurt, but we can try our best to prevent it. We don't always have to agree, but we can disagree respectfully.
Stop saying what I was trying to say better than me! Gosh!
Can we go back to talking about discharge now? Because seriously. I'm both amazed and disgusted by this new development.
Discharge will be the unity horse here. It's so gross. I hate it so much.
Is everyone else's discharge really that significant? Why am I always the one with no symptoms? Mine is just like normal pre-menstrual discharge, same quantity etc.
kleigh, you need to tell yh that you have needs and bj's aren't cutting it. Have you reminded him that sex after babies may be a while? So, take advantage of your baby free time now.
Discharge will be the unity horse here. It's so gross. I hate it so much.
Is everyone else's discharge really that significant? Why am I always the one with no symptoms? Mine is just like normal pre-menstrual discharge, same quantity etc.
This is not something you really want to be jealous of not getting.
There are days when I wonder if I have incontinence; my panties are just too wet for comfort. It's not regular enough for me to think, I need to wear a liner today.
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