Yep another less than stellar night here. Up twice but woke up as soon as I put him in his crib so my H had to rock him too making both wakeups take forever. Add on the 3 year old also having a bad night and my H snoring so it was rough all around. Then E was up at 6. He barely napped yesterday so I thought things would go better. My mom asked how often he wakes up. When I said 2 times is a good night, she commented that is too many for a baby his age. Gee thanks. Believe me - I'm not really loving life at night.
I may have been googling the other day, is it normal for my 4 month old to wake up to eat. 3 times a night. Found this and found it reassuring.
Highlight: Below are the number of feedings at night, at various ages, that are within “normal” range (in my experience) and don’t throw up a red flag that there is more going on than just a feeding:
• Newborns to 3 months old: Feedings every 2-3 hours, on demand • 3-4 Months: 2-3 feedings per night or every 3-6 hours, on demand • 5-6 Months: 1-2 feedings • 7-9 Months: 1, maybe 2, feedings • 10-12 Months: Sometimes 1 feeding • 12+ Months: Generally no feedings
I wonder if that chart is just for BF babies. L is back to 6.5-8 hours stretches without eating but he's EFF and also taking one solid meal a day. He's huge for his age (99% height and 90% weight) and has between 33-35 oz on average per day. I really feel like he's ready for night weaning, though he's still not going down til 9-9:30 so that also may be why he sleeps longer?
I wonder if that chart is just for BF babies. L is back to 6.5-8 hours stretches without eating but he's EFF and also taking one solid meal a day. He's huge for his age (99% height and 90% weight) and has between 33-35 oz on average per day. I really feel like he's ready for night weaning, though he's still not going down til 9-9:30 so that also may be why he sleeps longer?
I think it's just very generally saying at this stage eating 1 - 3 times a night is not abnormal. Doesn't meant that some babies can't do fewer or sleep longer. There are just so many things that factor into it on an individual basis. I think bf babies do tend to eat more at night though because their intake isn't as controlled. I have no idea how much my guy takes in at a time or overall, but I do have trouble getting him to focus and eat sometimes, so it's not surprising to me that he needs more at night.
Post by icaughtfire on Dec 13, 2016 17:26:21 GMT -5
Cosleeping after the first wake up is the only thing getting me through. The other night I tried to stay awake to nurse & get him back to sleep & I fell asleep in the glider. I work too many hours & get to work too damn early (6:30!!) to be dealing with a ton of wake ups.
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I totally get that baby sleep isn't linear. But what the hell man. How one day can he sleep 7 hours, and then the next three days sleep in 1.5 hour increments??
I can't even deal with work. I'm a zombie. This should be illegal. No one goes to work if their kid isn't STTN. Or at least 5 hours at a time. I can compromise.
I totally get that baby sleep isn't linear. But what the hell man. How one day can he sleep 7 hours, and then the next three days sleep in 1.5 hour increments??
I can't even deal with work. I'm a zombie. This should be illegal. No one goes to work if their kid isn't STTN. Or at least 5 hours at a time. I can compromise.
Yes. I think this needs to be written into FMLA. ☕️☕️☕️
Good luck tonight ladies, I hope all of our babies behave! melody330 you're absolutely right, it shouldn't be allowed for mom's to have to work on such little sleep. I almost considered taking a sick day yesterday because I was so exhausted. The US needs to get it's act together and learn from other countries on how to treat new parents.
I was glancing through some old posts/questions from July and August. Although many nights it may not seem like it, we've come a long way since those early days! So many of us seemed clueless (even STMs), and I got a laugh at some of our questions, but I think we are all doing pretty well with this mom gig! But think of how well we'd do if our babies slept! The possibilities are endless.
I'm so sorry melody330 , I don't know how you do it. Do you plan to sleep train? Maybe we need a sleeep training thread.
Hell yes. We will wait until 6 months. Jan 21st. I want to read another book or two before then. Last time we ST, DS1 was about 9 months old and we did Ferber. I'm not sure that's the way to go with B so I want to do some more reading.
Good luck tonight ladies, I hope all of our babies behave! melody330 you're absolutely right, it shouldn't be allowed for mom's to have to work on such little sleep. I almost considered taking a sick day yesterday because I was so exhausted. The US needs to get it's act together and learn from other countries on how to treat new parents.
Yup. I would consider taking a sick day, except everyone is home at my house. In January both boys are going to DC full time so maybe then! My birthday is Jan 9th, maybe I'll give myself a birthday present ;-)
Good luck tonight ladies, I hope all of our babies behave! melody330 you're absolutely right, it shouldn't be allowed for mom's to have to work on such little sleep. I almost considered taking a sick day yesterday because I was so exhausted. The US needs to get it's act together and learn from other countries on how to treat new parents.
Yup. I would consider taking a sick day, except everyone is home at my house. In January both boys are going to DC full time so maybe then! My birthday is Jan 9th, maybe I'll give myself a birthday present ;-)
Post by icaughtfire on Dec 14, 2016 8:23:47 GMT -5
Ethan was asleep by 8:30 last night, I kept waiting for him to wake up before I went to bed but he never did. I shot out of bed this morning at 6:45 like OMG IS HE STILL BREATHING?! and he was still fast asleep. I had to wake him up to nurse because my boobs were rock solid. Why can't this happen everyday??
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Well poop. It took me almost 2.5 hours to get the kid soundly in their beds. It's only been 45 minutes. Just replaced ds's paci, and found dd kneeling in her crib..."i sleeped." Now I'm back to holding DS again. I've been sick for over a week and can't kick it. My h has a red eye tonight that's really only 4 hours, so he won't be sleeping much, and he has to go to work when he gets in. It seems like I might be holding DS all night. We're gonna be freaking zombies.
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The Baby Sleep Site told me Baby R's evening nap is too late, so we skipped it tonight. It was rough, she was awake 4 hours before I put her to bed at 7 but I can't get her to nap/stay asleep when she needs to be napping. We'll see what happens.
I know I said this is another post, but I am calling it quits on the intensive bouncing/shushing crap when she wakes up and screams bloody murder. I want to sleep train and start with a 'fading' technique (gradually removing my intervention in putting her back to sleep). The fading technique people are all "soothe your baby back to sleep without picking her up out of the crib!". To which I'm like hahaha yeah right, she just screams louder. So when she has these wakeups within two hours of going to sleep, or within a couple hours after a MOTN feed, I am just going to hold her with light rocking and let her scream til she calms herself down. The first time it took 15 minutes. The second time was better, although it took a long time for her to fall back to sleep, she just layed there and stared. Hopefully I'm on to something.
The neighbors across the street have a really awesome Christmas light show for me to watch at 4 AM...
Well poop. It took me almost 2.5 hours to get the kid soundly in their beds. It's only been 45 minutes. Just replaced ds's paci, and found dd kneeling in her crib..."i sleeped." Now I'm back to holding DS again. I've been sick for over a week and can't kick it. My h has a red eye tonight that's really only 4 hours, so he won't be sleeping much, and he has to go to work when he gets in. It seems like I might be holding DS all night. We're gonna be freaking zombies.
So I joined a couple sleep training FB groups this week and was just reading an article about sleeping through the night that was posted. I figured I'd share it with you all, it's pretty interesting so far!
So I joined a couple sleep training FB groups this week and was just reading an article about sleeping through the night that was posted. I figured I'd share it with you all, it's pretty interesting so far!
I've read that article before, and TBH I'm not sure I like it. I'll have to look more closely at the footnotes, but it reads more like the author is writing from their opinion instead of medical facts. I think it's because this article makes me feel bad about nursing my baby to sleep or something. I don't know- I'm exhausted.
Anyway, B has only been up twice but my toddler has been up every hour since midnight. What the hell dude. At least H handles those, but it still interrupts my sleep.
melody330 I think I just liked her comparisons between babies waking up and us going to sleep in our bed and waking up on the front lawn, it was sort of an "ahhhhh" moment for me. The whole idea of object permanence and their brains starting to figure out that when they went to sleep we were there or they were someplace different than when they woke up, it makes sense to me why they would be upset upon waking and have a hard time falling back to sleep!
So I joined a couple sleep training FB groups this week and was just reading an article about sleeping through the night that was posted. I figured I'd share it with you all, it's pretty interesting so far!
I've read that article before, and TBH I'm not sure I like it. I'll have to look more closely at the footnotes, but it reads more like the author is writing from their opinion instead of medical facts. I think it's because this article makes me feel bad about nursing my baby to sleep or something. I don't know- I'm exhausted.
Anyway, B has only been up twice but my toddler has been up every hour since midnight. What the hell dude. At least H handles those, but it still interrupts my sleep.
I feel like this article is an overgeneralization. Yes, some babies who nurse/Rock to sleep will have problems putting themselves back to sleep. But that's one scenario out of many possibilities. Not all babies who nurse to sleep will have MOTN problems, and not all babies who wake up every hour are nursed to sleep. And while I do agree with her that it's easier to take away sleep props when they're younger, there's also such a thing as being too young and not ready for it. If I put my 5 month old in the crib drowsy but awake, she instantly screams Red Alert, and she's not old enough for CIO. So where does that leave me?
I do agree that babies need to learn how to fall back to sleep MOTN, but with DD1 I was able to break the habit of needing to nurse back to sleep MOTN, but still nurse at bedtime.
Also with DD1, the absolute worst sleep disturber was learning to pull herself up in her crib at 8 mo and not being able to lay herself back down... totally separate from nursing.
Ditching the evening nap was a success! There was one screamfest right after I put her to bed at 7, but after that we were good. I'm so relieved! I last tried this about 6 weeks ago, and she thought the 7 pm bedtime was a nap and woke up at 9 pm ready to play.
melody330 I think I just liked her comparisons between babies waking up and us going to sleep in our bed and waking up on the front lawn, it was sort of an "ahhhhh" moment for me. The whole idea of object permanence and their brains starting to figure out that when they went to sleep we were there or they were someplace different than when they woke up, it makes sense to me why they would be upset upon waking and have a hard time falling back to sleep!
Yes! I did like that comparison. Makes total sense!
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