DD has hit the 4m regression I think. She went from sleeping 7-8 hour stretches to waking up every 3 hours. Not terrible obviously, but also not ideal. I'm hoping this changes back to our 7-8 hour stretches soon.
DD has hit the 4m regression I think. She went from sleeping 7-8 hour stretches to waking up every 3 hours. Not terrible obviously, but also not ideal. I'm hoping this changes back to our 7-8 hour stretches soon.
LT for solidarity, sistah. I forget how long this lasted with DS. Is there anything we are supposed to do during it or just ride it out until they go back to normal sleep? Those first 6 months with DS are all a blur now lol
LT for solidarity, sistah. I forget how long this lasted with DS. Is there anything we are supposed to do during it or just ride it out until they go back to normal sleep? Those first 6 months with DS are all a blur now lol
My oldest did not do this. UNICORN. So this is new to me. I briefly Googled the other day and the one website I had time to read said to do whatever you needed to do to get through, but to start coming up with a long term plan (i.e. sleep training). They seemed to believe baby will not revert back to previous sleeping habits.
But, again, I'm new to this and it was only one source that I had time to investigate.
LT for solidarity, sistah. I forget how long this lasted with DS. Is there anything we are supposed to do during it or just ride it out until they go back to normal sleep? Those first 6 months with DS are all a blur now lol
My oldest did not do this. UNICORN. So this is new to me. I briefly Googled the other day and the one website I had time to read said to do whatever you needed to do to get through, but to start coming up with a long term plan (i.e. sleep training). They seemed to believe baby will not revert back to previous sleeping habits.
But, again, I'm new to this and it was only one source that I had time to investigate.
My first never reverted back to sleeping well until we sleep trained. Every baby is different.
My question for those in or over the 4M regression is what age is your baby, what is their due date, when did the regression start, and is it over?
I need dates you guys... I need to be able to write it on the calendar. Plz halp.
I thought we might be done with the sleep regression after several nights back to solid sleep. False, DS2 was so fidgety last night and could not settle himself. Ugh.
Post by hikingmama222 on Feb 10, 2017 8:44:57 GMT -5
I'm no real help with the regression since DD never went through it, and DS's sleep has been so bad since day 1 that it really couldn't get worse so I didn't notice any difference.
WWYD? We're going to go on vacation probably the first week of April. DS turns 6 months that week. Would you wait to sleep train until after we get back?
I'm no real help with the regression since DD never went through it, and DS's sleep has been so bad since day 1 that it really couldn't get worse so I didn't notice any difference.
WWYD? We're going to go on vacation probably the first week of April. DS turns 6 months that week. Would you wait to sleep train until after we get back?
I would probably wait just to avoid doing it twice. But if you are desperate and willing to do it early, you can and it might be helpful. You just run the risk of having to go through it again after vacation.
I'm no real help with the regression since DD never went through it, and DS's sleep has been so bad since day 1 that it really couldn't get worse so I didn't notice any difference.
WWYD? We're going to go on vacation probably the first week of April. DS turns 6 months that week. Would you wait to sleep train until after we get back?
I would probably wait just to avoid doing it twice. But if you are desperate and willing to do it early, you can and it might be helpful. You just run the risk of having to go through it again after vacation.
I'm not overly desperate, and really don't want to do it twice. I was leaning towards just waiting.
becole so I have noticed the regression over he past week or so. DD's due date was 10/1. She is 19 weeks old, and we are still in it. We are just in the beginning of it. Hope that helps
becole so I have noticed the regression over he past week or so. DD's due date was 10/1. She is 19 weeks old, and we are still in it. We are just in the beginning of it. Hope that helps
DS2 is a nightmare to put down for naps and doesn't nap at all at daycare. (DS1 also didn't at this age, but he was also sleeping 10-12 hours straight at night and napped at home without issue, so I wasn't as worried)
DS2 is a nightmare to put down for naps and doesn't nap at all at daycare. (DS1 also didn't at this age, but he was also sleeping 10-12 hours straight at night and napped at home without issue, so I wasn't as worried)
We swaddle, rock until drowsy, and put her down in her pack n play in her room, dark with white noise. Started doing it a few weeKS ago when she started having trouble falling asleep how we were doing it. I made sure she was fed, changed, and had been awake for a while and was starting to fuss so I knew she was sleepy. A few months ago I had started putting her down pretty drowsy but awake after MOTN feeds.
DS was born on 10/10, due date of 10/18. We've been in the sleep regression for about a week. He's waking 3x a night. I nurse to sleep still because he falls asleep. The last two days, I've been popping the pacifier in his mouth instead of nursing for one of the wake-ups.
As for napping, we're terrible. I'm 90% positive they let him sleep wherever he falls asleep (I'm going to message his teachers today about that) and on the weekends, we're always on the go so he's napping in his car seat or on us :/
We've always put him in his bed to sleep, cradle pre-7 weeks and crib since then, shades drawn, white noise. He hasn't slept swaddled in probably 2.5 months. I'm onto his sleepy cues (1,000 yard stare, yawning, red eyes, fussing is a late sign) and timewise he's usually ready for a nap about 1.5-2 hrs after he last woke. I take him to his room, bounce while holding a paci in his mouth, and put him down once he's drowsy enough that he's holding the paci on his own. This process sometimes takes 2 minutes, others he'll fight me for 15 minutes. Thrashing in my arms, fighting sleep despite literally long blinking and barely keeping his eyes open. Today I put him in his crib while he was doing that and, after 10 minutes, was still screaming at an 11. Le sigh. Went back up, bounced him for 2 minutes and he slept for 2ish hours. I truly don't mind rocking my kids for a few minutes, but this fighting and thrashing and carrying on is killing me. I also need to get daycare on board with catching his sleepy cues and establishing a nap routine.
At night he is fed to sleep after a militant bedtime routine. It's not intentionally that he falls asleep after eating, but because he fights sleep so much during the day (and doesn't nap at all at daycare) he's exhausted. MOTN we feed him and lay him back down. Sometimes it's asleep, sometimes it's drowsy, more often than not it's wide awake. He talks and grunts himself back to sleep. Right now, I'm not into changing his bedtime/MOTN routine. It works for us.
britta, DS2 was fighting crib naps for the past month (slept in the car seat, swing or in my arms though) and then yesterday and today he took 2 hr afternoon crib naps. I did nothing different from the previous weeks, so I'm attributing that to the sleep regression.
Eta- when we actually sleep train in a month or so, we'll both nap and night train. I'll be putting him down for naps at set times after the last wake up time.
I guess that's the thing. He's got bad FOMO, so he won't sleep elsewhere either. I've been putting him down for naps at set intervals, he just fights so hard.
I guess basically I'm at the "Am I horrible if I start ST my just turned 4 mo old?" point. I feel like this is all a crapshoot. I thought we were through the regression, but now I'm thinking we're in it now. Bedtime was awful last night (it never is) and he woke and was up for 2 hours MOTN. But he's also sick again and likely teething. So what is it? Does anyone REALLY know?
Well you shouldn't ST when they're sick or teething. Which is why sometimes doing it early at 4 months is best because it's hard to find a good window after that. Ferber says it's more likely to work and quicker at 4 mos versus 6. So if you can find a window- go for it. You did just say your little guy sttn the other day though- so he's kind of back and forth.
I think I am going to start sleep training for nights and naps starting Friday.
ETA: I didn't finish my post. I want to get DD used to crib naps since she has just sort of been napping wherever since birth. I also need to work on putting her down drowsy, because right now I nurse her to sleep, and I really don't want to have her relying on that.
Well you shouldn't ST when they're sick or teething. Which is why sometimes doing it early at 4 months is best because it's hard to find a good window after that. Ferber says it's more likely to work and quicker at 4 mos versus 6. So if you can find a window- go for it. You did just say your little guy sttn the other day though- so he's kind of back and forth.
Yes. He's all over the place with night sleeping. He's usually good for 7-8 hours solid, but at times will wake earlier than that and other will sleep 10-11 hours. Naps have always been a nightmare. Neither of me kids are/were the type to just fall asleep somewhere. They have to be convinced.
I guess I'm feeling discouraged at this point. I remember DS1 being sick and/or teething pretty constantly from 4-10ish months, but he was my dream sleeper. I can't imagine this sleep inconsistency for another 6+ months just because there's really no break in all the crud. Idk. I'm grumpy today.
You don't have to wait for a break. That's just what is suggested and what makes me feel comfortable letting them cry. Do what you're comfortable with. The success is the consistency so anything that would make you question going back in is not going to help.
You don't have to wait for a break. That's just what is suggested and what makes me feel comfortable letting them cry. Do what you're comfortable with. The success is the consistency so anything that would make you question going back in is not going to help.
I know what you mean. Thanks. This is such new territory for me.
Like last night at bedtime, we had fed and changed him, given him a breathing treatment and suctioned his nose out, he wasn't coughing any longer and didn't sound overly congested. I rocked him for a bit and then laid him down, still crying and fussing. I went back in twice over the next 10 minutes and patted his butt/rubbed his back and he finally fell asleep, sucking on his hand. I guess I was comfortable because we had addressed any needs, I feel.
When he woke MOTN, I fed him, rocked him for a bit and then laid him down awake. No tears that time, but that's what we've been doing for awhile.
Sleep is a mess right now. Some nights he's only up once, but other nights he's up every 1.5-2 hours. He's so close to rolling all the way over. He squirms all around his crib and bangs into the sides. About half the time I nurse him when he wakes up, the other half I give him a pacifier. He seems to sleep longer before the next waking if I feed him. I think he may be reverse cycling. He only takes a bottle at daycare when he is really hungry. I'd like to sleep train soon, but we've been on a never ending cycle of colds.
This is what I'm aiming for with DS2. He def can't go more than 2 hours between wake ups. If I time it exactly right, it only takes minutes to bounce/rock him to sleep. I'm wondering if he would put himself to sleep. I bet he would. Maybe I need to back it up and start sooner, like around 1.5 hrs after the last get up.
I could care less about outings. I was militant about nap/bedtime with DS1, so we pretty much had no social life until he was 2+. Sorry, not sorry. FFFC: Would rather have a good sleeper than go to zoo or the mall. DH and I can entertain ourselves at home and these kids have YEARS to enjoy outings. Right now, I prioritize sleep.
This is what I'm aiming for with DS2. He def can't go more than 2 hours between wake ups. If I time it exactly right, it only takes minutes to bounce/rock him to sleep. I'm wondering if he would put himself to sleep. I bet he would. Maybe I need to back it up and start sooner, like around 1.5 hrs after the last get up.
I could care less about outings. I was militant about nap/bedtime with DS1, so we pretty much had no social life until he was 2+. Sorry, not sorry. FFFC: Would rather have a good sleeper than go to zoo or the mall. DH and I can entertain ourselves at home and these kids have YEARS to enjoy outings. Right now, I prioritize sleep.
Glad I don't sound too crazy lol. We get out between the hours of 10-12 usually! It's a quick outing but it's enough for the toddler. And usually starting earlier works for us so I don't miss the "window". I figure if she isn't tired enough yet she will just look around and suck on her fingers or her paci. Or sometimes I will stay with her holding her hand if she can't settle (can't make eye contact!!) and that seems to be enough for her if she isn't overtired. If ONLY works during the day at night she has to be nursed to sleep. No idea why it doesn't work at night. she seems to like to fall asleep looking around and her room is light, maybe it's hard for her to fall asleep in dark? Who knows. Babies are weird!
Post by erien22846 on Feb 22, 2017 14:53:36 GMT -5
britta, danizee, Naps win. Always. Also glad to hear I'm not the only one! We're planning a trip to Omaha over Memorial day weekend and I'm already dreading stroller naps.
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