2's and 3's for 2/7

[TJ]

kaf7
mnj05
olenka
karabear4409
richzep
luvboston

Hopefully I didn't forget anyone!

How is everyone doing? Any updates from last week? Any issues people want on the list to discuss another week?

QOTW: Let's talk about fits! Whining, crying, screaming, tantrums, whatever you want to call it. How does your kid react to not getting their way or being told to do something they don't want to do (but must.) How do you react to their reaction? Tips? Tricks? Empathy?

[TJ]

Feb 7, 2017 14:30:23 GMT -5 TJ said:

kaf7
mnj05
olenka
karabear4409
richzep
luvboston

Hopefully I didn't forget anyone!

How is everyone doing? Any updates from last week? Any issues people want on the list to discuss another week?

Things have been rough here. To be fair, we've al been alternating illnesses since, oh, October??? And I know the girls aren't feeling their best right now. But holy smokes. So. Much. Screaming.

QOTW: Let's talk about fits! Whining, crying, screaming, tantrums, whatever you want to call it. How does your kid react to not getting their way or being told to do something they don't want to do (but must.) How do you react to their reaction? Tips? Tricks? Empathy?

Omg with the fits. Everything is the worst thing ever. And everything is "no!" Even things she loves. P is really going through something lately. And I miss my little buddy. She was my partner in crime. We were disgustingly sweet together, so much love and hugs and kisses and cuddling. And now everything is screaming. The only thing that works is distraction. (Or giving in.) She is not easily distracted, and has no coping or soothing skills. Once she starts crying, she literally can't stop. For hours. We're working on deep breaths, stomping our feet, using our words instead of screaming, and taking a "break" (time alone in her room to calm down.) Please tell me this will end. Some day. And I will have my sweet P back?!?!

[cinc1em]

TJ , hope it's ok if I chime in!

I'm dipping in for the first time in a LONG while... but I have a 3. And woah, is he 3.

Qotd:
This is tough stuff. My guy was the sweetest little man. All smiles, love for everyone. And now he is a mischievous imp. And when he is prevented from getting what he wants, he screams and cries. My bigs (3 & 4) fight physically all. The, time. It's both a battle and a rolling tantrum. It's not fun.

I am tipless. Trickless. Floundering most days. I have fallen into the trap of screaming to get their attention. It's not my best move. In short, I commiserate with you TJ. Right down to the rolling viruses all fall. Solidarity sister.

[TJ]

Happy to add you cinc1em!

Sorry you're dealing with a threenager. They are the devil, I swear.

So today, I did discover that my attitude makes a huge difference in how tolerable my kids are. However. Their tolerability also affects my attitude. Thus the circle of life.

[mnj05]

If we can get this eye/throat crap to leave, we'll be doing better. My biggest issue with my 3, almost 4, is pooping in his freaking pants. Some days he's fine, but most days he poops his pants. We went through a period where there were zero accidents, but oh my. I'm about to lose it.

H typically yells or grunts at us, and his new thing is to stick his tongue out at us. I've lightly popped his mouth and that's the most effective with him. When we're home, I put him in his room for a minute, then go in and talk about how it's not nice and he doesn't want to be yelled at. It doesn't last long though, and he's back at it. It's really ramped up in the last month.

[TJ]

mnj05 We struggle off and on with E and the pants pooping. Sticker charts helped for a while. We slapped a diaper on her the other day. Is it possible he could have constipation issues? We've wondered back and forth if E does or not.

[richzep]

DS has been asking a lot of questions lately. Curiosity at its peak! And I love it.

Annoying stuff: he's been peeing straight through his diaper and diaper pad insert. Every morning he wakes up early yelling that he's wet. We stop liquids around 5:30 pm. He sleeps 7-7. He pees before he sleeps. I'm not sure what else to do.

Tantrums and fits? He's not a huge tantrum person. Sometimes he throws himself on the ground when he doesn't get his way. But I've always ignored those. He's typically good with a logical explanation of things. You can't have this because...
we can't go outside because...
We will do that later after you eat, the rain stops, naptime, etc.
Sometimes it works and other times he cries. I don't pay much attention.

[mnj05]

Feb 7, 2017 21:34:38 GMT -5 TJ said:

mnj05 We struggle off and on with E and the pants pooping. Sticker charts helped for a while. We slapped a diaper on her the other day. Is it possible he could have constipation issues? We've wondered back and forth if E does or not.

I've wondered about this too. Sometimes it's just a little rabbit dropping of poop, sometimes it's a huge mess. I finally put a diaper on him at home one evening, and he cried because he didn't want to be a baby. Still didn't work though. DH says he pooped his pants like this for a long time so maybe I just have to wait it out, but I'd rather he not go to kinder like this in a year and a half.

[luvboston]

richzep what kind of diaper are you using?

[richzep]

Feb 8, 2017 7:27:29 GMT -5 luvboston said:

richzep what kind of diaper are you using?

Pampers baby dry size 6

[luvboston]

richzep I know several people that have had better success with luvs overnight

Have you tried any overnight diapers?

[richzep]

Feb 8, 2017 9:19:28 GMT -5 luvboston said:

richzep I know several people that have had better success with luvs overnight

Have you tried any overnight diapers?

The baby dry is the overnight one.
Right when I responded to you, he called me in yelling pee pee. I was like great. Not again.

I pick him up and there's no pee. He goes "it's coming". So I said ok let's go sit on the potty. He said no, just change my diaper. Ummm ok then. Whatever. So I changed it.

[luvboston]

Feb 8, 2017 9:25:23 GMT -5 richzep said:

Feb 8, 2017 9:19:28 GMT -5 luvboston said:

richzep I know several people that have had better success with luvs overnight

Have you tried any overnight diapers?

The baby dry is the overnight one.
Right when I responded to you, he called me in yelling pee pee. I was like great. Not again.

I pick him up and there's no pee. He goes "it's coming". So I said ok let's go sit on the potty. He said no, just change my diaper. Ummm ok then. Whatever. So I changed it.

Lol boys

[TJ]

mnj05 it might be worth a week long trial with miralax. Half the adult dose, dissolved in any liquid, once a day for a week.
It's a totally inert med, it doesn't react with any other meds of affect their body any other way, except making it easier to poo.
So it's one of those might help, definitely won't hurt things.

[olenka]

We're having a tough time with the whole being told to do something you don't want to do thing. The main one right now is diaper/pull up changes and getting into bed at night. There are soooo many stalling tactics, haha. I've tried to put everything in her court (unless we're talking about changing a poop diaper). Like, OK, you go get your own pull up and put it on.

I have had to resort to taking items she loves away and, in a particularly low point, I threatened to throw her most special lovey in the trash. I felt pretty horrible after that, because all that caused was a total meltdown.

Sometimes I will say, "hey I am getting upset and frustrated because you're not doing X like I asked. Can you help out by doing X?" Sometimes just saying I am getting pissed and repeating what I want her to do will work.

At least she is a little more verbal now and can tell me what is up.

[mnj05]

TJ - could that make him go a lot and be hard for daycare to deal with? That's my only reservation. Spring break is in 5 weeks though, I could it try then.

[TJ]

Feb 8, 2017 19:53:01 GMT -5 mnj05 said:

TJ - could that make him go a lot and be hard for daycare to deal with? That's my only reservation. Spring break is in 5 weeks though, I could it try then.

It didn't for us. It just made her more regular.

We've done it with P too. And it didn't make her go more. It just made it to where she didn't puke every time she had to go (from straining.)

ETA: it's not like ex lax or anything like that. Promise.