Post by requiressnacks on Apr 19, 2017 7:25:40 GMT -5
So....I just finalized our flight reservation for Florida next month. H and I are taking the twins (will be 6 months at the time) and my MIL. Let's hope with 3 adults and 2 babies we get there OK!
Post by requiressnacks on Apr 19, 2017 7:27:14 GMT -5
And to everyone in the trenches right now....I PROMISE it gets better soon. I think 10/12 weeks was a turning point for me. We started sleeping better, they started giving me real smiles. I was able to enjoy my last few weeks of maternity leave. We did all the Target trips, lunches out, walks with friends.
( pbandj714, I think you gave me this same pep talk!)
And to everyone in the trenches right now....I PROMISE it gets better soon. I think 10/12 weeks was a turning point for me. We started sleeping better, they started giving me real smiles. I was able to enjoy my last few weeks of maternity leave. We did all the Target trips, lunches out, walks with friends.
( pbandj714 , I think you gave me this same pep talk!)
I think so! It feels like that turning point will never come, and then BAM! Life get so much easier (relatively speaking of course).
And to everyone in the trenches right now....I PROMISE it gets better soon. I think 10/12 weeks was a turning point for me. We started sleeping better, they started giving me real smiles. I was able to enjoy my last few weeks of maternity leave. We did all the Target trips, lunches out, walks with friends.
( pbandj714 , I think you gave me this same pep talk!)
I think so! It feels like that turning point will never come, and then BAM! Life get so much easier (relatively speaking of course).
I tell all the new moms in my MOTA group that 8 weeks was the APEX OF MY MISERY. They all think I'm being dramatic, but it was true.
Post by mustloveerica on Apr 19, 2017 9:04:34 GMT -5
We had a MUCH better night last night!! Babies slept in their cribs the whole night, which I think was better for everyone. They had two wake ups to eat but they sucked their bottles down record fast and went back to sleep. E had a little trouble going down at first. She started her usual crying for paci routine. I sucked it up a did a very modified CIO. She was fed, changed, swaddled...all she wanted was to be picked up or have her paci. So I sat in the room and let her cry for 3 minutes then put her paci in, waited, paci fell out, let her cry 5 minutes and replaced paci, waited, paci fell out, let her cry 3 minutes and she calmed herself and went to sleep and she slept the rest of the night (besides wake ups to eat) without a peep.
I know people hate CIO but something had to be done. I can't hold her all night and be a good mother to her. She was safe, wasn't over upsetting herself, and we all may have slept better because of it.
mustloveerica, 2-5 minutes is not, in my mind, CIO. It's a very realistic timeframe for a baby to wait, especially a twin. The time it takes you to pee, make a bottle, or the time it takes you to buckle one child into a car seat or otherwise make one child "safe" before taking care of the other is not neglectful or cruel, it's reality and it's responsible parenting. And my pediatrician had a great take on sleep training- does it bother you to get up x times a night? If not, have at it. If it does, then it's time to make a change, as simple as that.
mustloveerica, 2-5 minutes is not, in my mind, CIO. It's a very realistic timeframe for a baby to wait, especially a twin. The time it takes you to pee, make a bottle, or the time it takes you to buckle one child into a car seat or otherwise make one child "safe" before taking care of the other is not neglectful or cruel, it's reality and it's responsible parenting. And my pediatrician had a great take on sleep training- does it bother you to get up x times a night? If not, have at it. If it does, then it's time to make a change, as simple as that.
Getting them out of our room is what helps. In our room I was jumping at every little sound to soothe or replace pacis. We had the same amount of wakeups as usual but I really feel like I got better quality sleep.
mustloveerica , 2-5 minutes is not, in my mind, CIO. It's a very realistic timeframe for a baby to wait, especially a twin. The time it takes you to pee, make a bottle, or the time it takes you to buckle one child into a car seat or otherwise make one child "safe" before taking care of the other is not neglectful or cruel, it's reality and it's responsible parenting. And my pediatrician had a great take on sleep training- does it bother you to get up x times a night? If not, have at it. If it does, then it's time to make a change, as simple as that.
Getting them out of our room is what helps. In our room I was jumping at every little sound to soothe or replace pacis. We had the same amount of wakeups as usual but I really feel like I got better quality sleep.
Moving them out of our room was amazing for all of us. We all slept better with fewer people per bedroom. And I agree with schmella. It takes me time to get bottles ready or get finished with the other baby. Sometimes, they just have to cry for a minute.
I don't know if I mentioned it here, but I met another twin family at a birthday party a couple of months ago. Even before I found out they started putting cereal in their formula at a month old to make them STTN, I thought something was off. A couple days later, I realized that those babies never cried in the 2 hours we were there. They were 6 months old at the time (Z and W were 5.5). They were visibly uncomfortable and grumpy, but they had learned that mom won't come get me if I cry. The more I learn about them, the more sorry I feel for those babies (friend of a friend) and the tighter I hold mine.
mustloveerica, your babies are loved, and they know that if they need you, you'll come. Letting them cry for a minute to let them learn to self-soothe is one thing. Ignoring their cries is something entirely different.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 15:16:17 GMT -5
piccyami- stories like those twins just break my heart. I hate hearing my babies cry and feel a rush to hurry when doing some of the necessary things (toliet/bottle/etc.). I just can't understand how a parent can have let their baby(s) cry so long at a young age to have trained them.
@jacks605, I know. My friend keeps them periodically and is so tempted to call DHR about them sometimes. I keep urging her to at least document everything. I don't think this mom deserves to lose her babies, I just think she needs some help.
requiressnacks, I'm really hoping that they've just ignored crying until the babies stopped. IF you ignore the crying for long enough, they'll figure out that crying doesn't do any good.
Omg my boy is going to make me postal. I dont know what to do for him anymore, just cries and cries
Can you wear him? Is it the reflux?
Honestly I'm not sure what it is anymore. His reflux seems under control. It's like he's awake, he cries. He eats, he cries through 3/4 of it. Carry him, 75% Cries. Seems like sleep, first half hour in the morning and before bedtime are the only times he isn't. He's just become hella needy which sounds horrible. Charlotte can sit and be content, he used to have those moments but now far and few between.
requiressnacks, I'm really hoping that they've just ignored crying until the babies stopped. IF you ignore the crying for long enough, they'll figure out that crying doesn't do any good.
Does anyone else feel like they sling their babies around like sacks of potatoes? I mean really. Is there a graceful way to pick up and set down twins?
Who else is cloth diapering their multiples? How many diapers do I need ?! HELP!!
That's a whole lotta nope for me sadly. Maybe when they're older. For now we're blowing through 16 diapers a day. So. I guess you'd need 32-40 to last two days
Hugs, mustloveerica. Sleeping when they sleep was rare for us. Mine were only fans of the nuk ones that were all silicone.
Ours so far will only take the soothies (tried nuk and mam...both rejected). But the soothies are the worst shape for staying in their mouths. Wubanubs help but only get us a few more minutes.
They'll get better at keeping them in their mouths, but I know it's sooo frustrating in the meantime. FX this is a phase that passes quickly!
Who else is cloth diapering their multiples? How many diapers do I need ?! HELP!!
It will partially depend on what type of cloth diapers you are using, but I did at least 12 for each child and a few extras with pocket diapers. I will say I love my best bottoms about 20 times more than the pockets and wished I had bought them to begin with.
Me: 30 DH: 29; Married: September, 2010 TTC #1: April 2013 Benched: May 2013 Cancer(DH) Off the Bench: September 2014 July 2015 ER low sperm count and motility(radiation side effect). FET September 1,2015. BFP 9/9/15.- 3 on the way.
Who else is cloth diapering their multiples? How many diapers do I need ?! HELP!!
It will partially depend on what type of cloth diapers you are using, but I did at least 12 for each child and a few extras with pocket diapers. I will say I love my best bottoms about 20 times more than the pockets and wished I had bought them to begin with.
I use hybrids mostly, with snap in soakers. I also have 15 or so AIOs for the diaper bag and trimmer fits. I have around 12 shells and 18 soakers. I'm planning on getting a few more shells and soakers, hopefully that'll be enough for eod wash? I was hoping DD1 would've been ready to start potty training, but she's not.
Does anyone else feel like they sling their babies around like sacks of potatoes? I mean really. Is there a graceful way to pick up and set down twins?
Do you hold them together? But yes, there's no grace....in most things twin-related.
Does anyone else feel like they sling their babies around like sacks of potatoes? I mean really. Is there a graceful way to pick up and set down twins?
lol yes! And the looks I get when I'm slinging my twins around. Other people are so gentle ans careful and I'm just swooping them up with one hand.
Does anyone else feel like they sling their babies around like sacks of potatoes? I mean really. Is there a graceful way to pick up and set down twins?
Do you hold them together? But yes, there's no grace....in most things twin-related.
Yeah together. I look like a normal loving mother if I've got just one.
Does anyone else feel like they sling their babies around like sacks of potatoes? I mean really. Is there a graceful way to pick up and set down twins?
lol yes! And the looks I get when I'm slinging my twins around. Other people are so gentle ans careful and I'm just swooping them up with one hand.
YES. Everyone else is soooo gentle. I'm all. One potato, two potato. But we get where we need to go (usually to a boob) without incident.
It will partially depend on what type of cloth diapers you are using, but I did at least 12 for each child and a few extras with pocket diapers. I will say I love my best bottoms about 20 times more than the pockets and wished I had bought them to begin with.
I use hybrids mostly, with snap in soakers. I also have 15 or so AIOs for the diaper bag and trimmer fits. I have around 12 shells and 18 soakers. I'm planning on getting a few more shells and soakers, hopefully that'll be enough for eod wash? I was hoping DD1 would've been ready to start potty training, but she's not.
As long as you have enough for each of them to be changed 8 to 9 times a day in the beginning you should be fine.
Me: 30 DH: 29; Married: September, 2010 TTC #1: April 2013 Benched: May 2013 Cancer(DH) Off the Bench: September 2014 July 2015 ER low sperm count and motility(radiation side effect). FET September 1,2015. BFP 9/9/15.- 3 on the way.
I have been bitching about my husband a lot lately... all deserved, I assure you. But last night he ditched a work dinner so I could go to a MoMs meeting and I came home to a spotless kitchen, living, and dining room. Sometimes he's pretty fantastic
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Post by bocaburger on Apr 20, 2017 17:27:04 GMT -5
At what point should my kids start wearing shoes? They are pulling up and standing with support but not walking yet. Mostly I leave their feet bare but I don't know if that's right or not.
At what point should my kids start wearing shoes? They are pulling up and standing with support but not walking yet. Mostly I leave their feet bare but I don't know if that's right or not.
Our DC wants them wearing shoes when they start pulling up, but we're not planning on putting them in shoes unless they're outside for a long time. While we have them. Shoes at DC.
At what point should my kids start wearing shoes? They are pulling up and standing with support but not walking yet. Mostly I leave their feet bare but I don't know if that's right or not.
Mine are barefoot until they start walking. And even then I'll probably only put shoes on them when we're outside.
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