If I end up redshirting my 4 year old DD she can still make me proud of her academically. What you are saying is not universally true. It's your opinion.
Well, I would send her on time at first, and then hold her back later if it's absolutely necessary. But you'll never know if she was ready to go on time or on unless you try.
It is way more "embarrassing" for a child to be stigmatized for being held back later on when all the other kids know which class they should be in than to just hold off the very first year and allow them to stay with the same group of kids the whole way through.
And your assertion that there's ANYTHING embarrassing about a red-shirted child is asinine. Kids give us plenty of opportunities to be embarrassed on their behalf. Allowing a child an extra year of development is not an example.
Well, I would send her on time at first, and then hold her back later if it's absolutely necessary. But you'll never know if she was ready to go on time or on unless you try.
It is way more "embarrassing" for a child to be stigmatized for being held back later on when all the other kids know which class they should be in than to just hold off the very first year and allow them to stay with the same group of kids the whole way through.
And your assertion that there's ANYTHING embarrassing about a red-shirted child is asinine. Kids give us plenty of opportunities to be embarrassed on their behalf. Allowing a child an extra year of development is not an example.
I agree with this. And thomasgriller, you essentially destroyed your own arguments and opinions by basically saying it's ok to hold a child back later. From an academic/developmental standpoint, red shirting and repeating a grade are the same damned thing. I've been in education almost 10 years now, and I can guarantee you that from a social and emotional standpoint, it's better to redshirt or hold a child back very early to help eliminate most of the stigma their peers could levy on them. There will always be cases when a child needs to be held back later on, but if it can happen earlier to help give them a leg up and be more on track, then that's likely going to be the better option.
Post by mrsbuttinski on Mar 14, 2015 8:48:16 GMT -5
Really?
This gentleman has identified himself as an adult with a mild presentation of ASD. Perhaps he didn't intuit the "rules" of this forum, perhaps he doesn't find them logically valid. Bright and capable as he is, he isn't wired for subtle social nuances.
On a number of fora in which I have participated in the past, Adults with Aspergers were valuable members of the group who could offer a unique perspective around what our children may be processing the decisions we make as their parents. You might not agree with him, you might not like to think that your child may be angry with you over your actions some day- but his opinions are as valid as any here.
Please keep things inclusive and civil. Neurodiversity and inclusion are positive things. This member is living the "good outcome" we hope for our own children. Please don't don't let this board devolve into the mean girls table from middle school. You wouldn't want someone treating your child as some are treating thomasgriller.
I absolutely value his opinions. I also expect there's more to his opinion than he's been able to communicate. I don't really agree that education is a "race" and only those who finish first deserve pride. Some things in life, including education, really are about the journey.
I hope thomasgriller stays to participate and I hope we can gently help him understand the subtle nuances of online social norms, like reading to get a feel for the attitudes of the community as well as the audience.
I have a hard time believe that you truly don't realize how offensive you're being.
He has autism so good chance he doesn't.
I don't know. I think calling children an embarrassment and saying that they're nothing to be proud of is pretty obvious. Talking shit about people's kids just isn't going to ever go over well.
I love how people are silent when I apologize, but they won't hesitate to respond when I've said something negative.
The culture of a message board isn't to all come out and say apology accepted when someone apologizes for saying something wrong. You said you were sorry, it got likes, and the issue was dropped. That's the way things go.
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