I just read this article....hope its not true. Opinions?

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www.louismanara.com/blog/2014/03/02/frozen-embryo-transfer-success-important-140876

[NariaDreaming]

I would have to pull up the full study to read it, but I question how large of a cohort it was. It honestly is just not making sense in my scientifically minded brain.

[NariaDreaming]

@ketchup you mean like the time my RE told me that fat people have "significantly lower" success rates per that "awesome new study" that was "just published"

[Ann612]

Jan 16, 2015 9:38:04 GMT -5 NariaDreaming said:

@ketchup you mean like the time my RE told me that fat people have "significantly lower" success rates per that "awesome new study" that was "just published"

this still makes me mad for you!

[lilyharper]

Yeah, I call bullshit. I just pulled up his sart data. He did a total of 147 cycles that year, and less than 30 frozen transfers. And as @ketchup said his average isn't the highest.

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I was doing google "research" because I have three frozen embryos from three separate IVF cyles. The first two I had pregnancies and the third one was a "freeze all" cycle which only resulted in one embryo.

When I in the article that FETs are not as successful if the frozen embryos came from a cycle that resulted in pregnancy, I was bummed.

Thanks for shooting down the article Makes me feel a little better. I am just so discouraged.

[lilyharper]

rg1979 I totally get the research angle. If you feel the need to indulge (and I do!) go through pubmed. They're legit registered studies and their outcomes. But even then, grain of salt. Plus with anything ivf, data becomes outdated so quickly, so keep that in mind too.

eta: and *hugs* about the discouragement, I know it's hard to keep optimistic when you keep getting less than great news.  One last thing about frozen embies though that I have heard on more than one occasion, is that they tend to be hardy little buggers if they're able to get through the freezing process, so I have my fx for you!

[bootsorhearts]

Seems like they are making some very broad and overreaching conclusions based on limited data. There could be many reasons why the fresh and frozen rates are different. I doubt it was a double-blind controlled study so it's very difficult to say anything about the results. For example, I've read that frozen cycles are more successful in some cases because the body is under less stress and is following a slightly more normal hormonal trajectory which could improve implantation.