MN help.

[k3am]

I am being brave and posting here. Don't tear me apart. (Your passion for names is intimidating!)

DD's name is Ais.lin Ma.isie. We love her name, acknowledge it's hard to get the pronunciation from the spelling, but don't regret it. (If I could change one thing, it would be the MN. It's hard to stay stern or sound scolding when using something so soft sounding).

Based on her name, we would rather not have her brother named something simple/common, like Bob. 

DS's first name is 99.8% likely to be named Br.on. (You never know, we could meet him and decide we were being crazy.) We both love the name, even if it doesn't hit the typical naming rules. We thought we'd find a MN we both liked, but we've got under 3 weeks until the due date and nothing is striking our fancy. 

We have contemplated Charles as the MN. We don't love or hate it. It was my dad's name. I asked DH if he thought his dad would be offended or hurt if we chose my dad's name and didn't honor him in some way, and DH was completely stumped as to why I would even think this could potentially be an issue. 

Would you go with Charles? Other suggestions?

[cabbagecabbage]

Is this pronounced like brawn? Is it an established name or a surname or what? I'm trying not to judge but I'm not familiar and it's hard to get a feel for some random letters if I'm not certain I'm reading them correctly.

[Stormtroopooper]

Bron is a feminine Welsh name and the short form of Bronwen. Bron means "breast" and wen means "white, fair, blessed."

I wouldn't name my child "breast," but that's me.

I love Charles.

Suggesting Bram/Braam (brahm) and Broen (broon). Both are Dutch/Limburgish.

*edit to add multiple spellings

[reginaphalange]

I would go with Charles. In my opinion, you should not consider what your FIL will think especially since your DH doesn't see a problem either. This is your child, you get to name him. As well, if I'm reading correctly, your father had passed? That trumps any living honor for me.

[Stormtroopooper]

Is Bron short for Bronislaw, Bronislav, Bronimir, or Bronius? If so, I'd definitely use the full name just so his nn doesn't get confused with the feminine form.

Edit spelling and add name. I can't type.

[bromios]

I echo the comments about Bron being unsuitable and Bram being much better. If you like Charles then you should use it.

[Widget123]

I like Charles as a MN. I like having something more common in the MN spot in case he doesn't want to go with his more uncommon first name.

[helenahhandbasket]

I didn't know your DD's name, it's really pretty!

I know you didn't ask about the FN, but I can't say I have heard it before (not that that means much). Can you clarify pronunciation? I'm a big "flow" advocate so to me that really make the difference of which name to use in the mn spot. That is a somewhat unpopular opinion over here though.

[k3am]

We're not changing the first name unless we meet him and decide it doesn't work. It doesn't float the boat for posters on here, and that's fine. I wasn't looking for feedback on the first name, since we're pretty well decided. And yes, pronounced like Braun or brawny paper towels.

reginaphalange, yes, my dad has passed. FIL tends to get overly emotional about random stuff, so I'm paranoid that Charles as a MN would hurt his feelings. We could always do Michael, which was my dad's MN, and FIL's first name, but we like that option even less.

[k3am]

helenahhandbasket, I try to keep her first name off TCF for the most part since it's relatively unique. (Although becoming more common lately. Or I'm just more aware of it now that we've named her it).

When it comes to flow, I keep thinking Oliver as a middle name, and I realized it's just because I know a Ron Oliver and and Jon Oliver, so it goes together in my name. But no attachment or feeling about that name one way or the other.

[cabbagecabbage]

I would choose Charles. I would never worry about fairness in naming. You get to choose your kid's names period and your FIL is an adult. He can deal with it even if he takes it personally for some reason.

[helenahhandbasket]

Gotcha k3am

So, I don't love the flow. To me, since they are both single syllable names, it sounds choppy.

Loving my child's name- which includes loving the sound of it-trumps naming after a relative, period, but I know many people feel the opposite. There are so many ways to "honor" a person, this isn't the only way.

I'd leave your FIL out of the equation and decide what is most important to your H and yourself when it comes to choosing a name for your child.

[reginaphalange]

Apr 21, 2016 14:49:46 GMT -5 k3am said:

reginaphalange, yes, my dad has passed. FIL tends to get overly emotional about random stuff, so I'm paranoid that Charles as a MN would hurt his feelings. We could always do Michael, which was my dad's MN, and FIL's first name, but we like that option even less.

I know it may get a little awkward but I would use Charles anyway. Honestly, if he makes a big fuss about you using your father's name than he is a huge jerk. If he does comment and seem sad then I would just explain the importance of the name to you etc.

FWIW I don't care about flow when the name has meaning. I think it sounds fine.

[k3am]

Honestly, Charles is just a place filler - our "if we can't find anything better" name. It has some meaning, and it fits the requirement of "if he hates his first name, he can go by his middle" requirement that Widget123 mentioned. (This was actually our goal with DD as well - her MN was going to be Elena, a nice, traditional name, but when I was hopped up on drugs, I decided I hated the flow and let DH have his 1st choice for her MN.)

(Amusingly, I was more worried that my mom would be upset if we used Charles as a MN, since when he died, they were in the middle of a divorce. But she's 100% okay with the potential.)

[k3am]

Also, it is nice to know that I don't need to consider FIL's feelings in this. I guess I should give DH a break.

[bromios]

Is Bron because of game of thrones?

[k3am]

bromios, nope. Although I did have to explain to DH that Bronn is a GOT character, the character itself, etc. so that he was aware that people might make the association.

Honestly, I don't remember where DH got the name from originally. We were in the middle of a 10 hour car ride in December and throwing out names (cultural, characters, name lists, streets that we passed, store names, cities, celebrities, etc) left and right, and it was the first (and only) name we've agreed on and neither of us have found anything we like any better.

My baby boy was always supposed to be named Declan, ever since we I imagined having kids, but the name has become pretty popular now, and we have not one but four sets of close friends (who don't know each other) with sons named Declan, so that one got kicked out contention.

I also realized how many people I dislike when trying to name a kid. It's a really high number and rules out a lot of names.

[seamonster]

Charles is a fine name and meaningful to you. I wouldn't worry about your FIL. He got to name his own kids and I'm going to assume your son will share his last name.

[sandandsea]

I think Charles is a fine mn and it has meaning to you. I like safe names as middle names when paired with more interesting first names. DH and I had a hard time coming up with names too as our top contender for a long time was Lucas but it seemed a little too boring so It became the mn. And really we never use DSs mn so when choosing for #2 we realized it really didn't matter too much.

We avoided any family names and chose "unique" names according to my family. We didn't want the drama, questions, favorites of family names, especially since my parents are divorced.

[k3am]

sandandsea, if this kid is born 5/4, DH has decided his MN is Lucas. May the fourth be with you and all... *smh*

[dreadpiratebuttercup]

Apr 23, 2016 11:43:35 GMT -5 k3am said:

sandandsea, if this kid is born 5/4, DH has decided his MN is Lucas. May the fourth be with you and all... *smh*

5/4 is a good day for a birthday. Just sayin'.

[cosmicav]

I think Charles is fine, but I think one-syllable names flow best with multi-syllabic middle names. Here are more options to potentially strike your fancy

Christopher
Peter
Nicolas
Raymond
Gregory
Thompson
Nathaniel
Jeremiah

[jollywife]

I like the sound of Bron. I would assume it had something to do with the word "brown" (maybe because of 'brun').

We use family names as middle names, so Charles works for me. I think it flows well, too.

[sandandsea]

Other mn options could be
Declan (since you liked it before and it's still not super common)
Elias
Elijah

[Stormtroopooper]

Apr 23, 2016 11:43:35 GMT -5 k3am said:

sandandsea, if this kid is born 5/4, DH has decided his MN is Lucas. May the fourth be with you and all... *smh*

Lucas is a great name. I'm actually super disappointed my son wasn't born on May 4th. He was born two days later. And his name is Harrison. I won't lie. My H sold me on the name because of Harrison Ford.

[marygracerich]

Apr 23, 2016 20:44:55 GMT -5 Stormtroopooper said:

Apr 23, 2016 11:43:35 GMT -5 k3am said:

sandandsea, if this kid is born 5/4, DH has decided his MN is Lucas. May the fourth be with you and all... *smh*

Lucas is a great name. I'm actually super disappointed my son wasn't born on May 4th. He was born two days later. And his name is Harrison. I won't lie. My H sold me on the name because of Harrison Ford.

I agree that the name Lucas is great.
Tiny anecdote: MH was really hoping that our DD was going to be born on May 4th. She was a May 6th baby which MH says is still good because of "revenge of the 6th"

[Stormtroopooper]

Apr 23, 2016 22:02:39 GMT -5 marygracerich said:

Apr 23, 2016 20:44:55 GMT -5 Stormtroopooper said:

Lucas is a great name. I'm actually super disappointed my son wasn't born on May 4th. He was born two days later. And his name is Harrison. I won't lie. My H sold me on the name because of Harrison Ford.

I agree that the name Lucas is great.
Tiny anecdote: MH was really hoping that our DD was going to be born on May 4th. She was a May 6th baby which MH says is still good because of "revenge of the 6th"

Bahaha. Never thought about that one. That's awesome. I'll have to tell my H that one.

[lpj]

Haha I was going to suggest James and couldn't figure out why it sounded familiar until I remembered LeBron James. Don't use James!

[Deleted]

I like Charles. What about Bron Declan since you always liked that name? Just a suggestion.