it's time for opinions

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2016 15:05:20 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

That are unpopular.

I hate camping.
That's all I have so far.

I like camping but only in a tent not in a cabin. I know it's weird. I also have to have a thin mattress with me or else I sleep like shit.

So I guess I'm glamping not camping

[jillywilly]

I couldn't agree more on the camping thing. I don't understand the appeal at all.

[jillywilly]

This has kind of been covered before, but I'm not sad DS is turning one, I'm happy. He's growing up, and becoming more amazing all the time. Yes, I can't believe how fast the year went, but it's great to see him grow up. Also, I can't wait to have another baby, partly just so we can get to the next first birthday and be done with the baby phase.

[Deleted]

Sharing my H's unpopular opinion. He told me my chocolate cake (I followed the pioneer women recipe exactly)smelled like dirty feet. What!!!! But then once he told me i could kind of see what he meant. So then i frantically aired the house out before the guests arrived and lit matches everywhere.

[Deleted]

Then he ate 3 servings of the dirty feet cake. It was finished by all.

[jillywilly]

Also, I saw something on Facebook that struck a chord - 880 people died crossing the Mediterranean last week, but we (collectively as a society we) are up in arms about a gorilla in a zoo. Yes, I'm an animal lover. But are we really going to prioritize our concern to one gorilla over 880 human lives?

[Bluedaisy]

+1 for hating camping and I think holiday trailer/rvs are the worst. Would way rather stay in a hotel thank you very much.

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2016 15:12:43 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

Also, I saw something on Facebook that struck a chord - 880 people died crossing the Mediterranean last week, but we (collectively as a society we) are up in arms about a gorilla in a zoo. Yes, I'm an animal lover. But are we really going to prioritize our concern to one gorilla over 880 human lives?

I completely agree. I heard a radio interview from a guy that is independently wealthy and donated boats in the rescue process to save migrants from drowning off the coast of Italy. He said that the actual numbers are way higher. There is an area 15 miles off the coast of Libya that he calls the dead zone because no one patrols it and most of the boats are sinking there. Its just horrific. There will probably be movies made about this 20 yrs from now and everyone will look in horror as to how we let this happen.

[Bluedaisy]

jillywilly I don't think it has anything to do with priorities. The refugee issue is a huge and complex one that doesn't have a simple solution....whereas the gorilla whinging feels like a little common sense on the part of the zoo (making sure it was harder to get into the pen) and the mom (watching closer) could have solved the problem. Also while I totally understand that all parents make mistakes and look away for a minute it was her total lack of empathy or remorse that I think angered people. Anyways....all that to say I think people are grabbing onto the gorilla thing because it seems simpler.

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2016 15:18:47 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

Jun 2, 2016 15:12:43 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

Also, I saw something on Facebook that struck a chord - 880 people died crossing the Mediterranean last week, but we (collectively as a society we) are up in arms about a gorilla in a zoo. Yes, I'm an animal lover. But are we really going to prioritize our concern to one gorilla over 880 human lives?

I was wondering if someone would bring up the gorilla this week...

Parenting has pages and pages of gorilla talk if you are interested. In between the hair washing discussion and salad talk.

[holliberry28]

+ 1 to hating camping.

+ 1 to not being sad at all about M turning 1. I'm ready to have a toddler!

I don't have any UOs of my own at the moment.

[jillywilly]

Jun 2, 2016 15:18:47 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

Jun 2, 2016 15:12:43 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

Also, I saw something on Facebook that struck a chord - 880 people died crossing the Mediterranean last week, but we (collectively as a society we) are up in arms about a gorilla in a zoo. Yes, I'm an animal lover. But are we really going to prioritize our concern to one gorilla over 880 human lives?

I was wondering if someone would bring up the gorilla this week...

Yup, I did. I'll be honest, and haven't paid attention enough to understand the exact logistics of how the kid wound up in the gorilla enclosure in the first place to place judgement on if his mother should be held responsible or not, but I just think the whole media coverage/million protests about the gorilla himself are getting out of hand.

I will add this - a week or so ago (I think), there was a story about a grown man who jumped into a lion (I think again) enclosure, and apparently left a suicide note. That lion was also killed to save the man. I have more feels about them killing the lion because of some idiot who clearly had a death wish, than killing the gorilla to save a child who can't really grasp the complete consequence of his actions. I would have let the man die, but 100% support killing the gorilla to save a child.

[tiffbot]

You non campers....



I got so excited when I found out there's a campground basically attached to Regina and we could park our camper there for football game weekend and save a ton of money on hotel costs lol. It sounds like I'm the one with the UO here.

ETA- I also have an account with the Sask parks page so I can easily reserve sites

[jillywilly]

Jun 2, 2016 15:23:28 GMT -5 Bluedaisy said:

jillywilly I don't think it has anything to do with priorities. The refugee issue is a huge and complex one that doesn't have a simple solution....whereas the gorilla whinging feels like a little common sense on the part of the zoo (making sure it was harder to get into the pen) and the mom (watching closer) could have solved the problem. Also while I totally understand that all parents make mistakes and look away for a minute it was her total lack of empathy or remorse that I think angered people. Anyways....all that to say I think people are grabbing onto the gorilla thing because it seems simpler.

I understand your point about the complexity of the stories, but at the end of the day, it kind of ties into what Kristykristyleelee said about the media picking and choosing what stories to cover. They know the gorilla story will get attention. But don't they also have a moral obligation to turn people's attentions to a humanitarian crisis happening right now? I studied journalism in college and was going to go into it at one point, so I actually wrote my final senior thesis on journalism ethics and how the media influences our society through the way they cover (or don't cover) certain events. It's one of those things that the more I think about it, the more ragey I get.

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2016 15:24:39 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

Jun 2, 2016 15:23:46 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Parenting has pages and pages of gorilla talk if you are interested. In between the hair washing discussion and salad talk.

lol. I read the first few and last few pages of that thread and decides it wasn't worth reading the middle.

This was my favorite thing in the parenting UO thread

[Bluedaisy]

jillywilly, maybe our news here is very different because it has been non-stop coverage of the refugee crisis but I also feel like media consumers have a very short attention span. They love tragedy porn so something splashy will make waves but an ongoing crisis that actually takes research and reading to begin to understand doesn't sell as well because people get bored too fast.

[erbear]

I hate camping. HATE. H's family has a camp with trailers on the river and I've successfully managed to avoid going for two years. H can't wait to introduce LO to the river. Snakes and crawfish are in there; no thanks!

I think it's gross when people let their dogs lick their faces/share food. I grew up with dogs I loved dearly...they used to eat their own poop. Ew.

[beersandweirs]

madymoiselle it's a joke because everyone in the internet seems to know how they would have handled it if they were the zoo operator.

[Bluedaisy]

Jun 2, 2016 16:28:30 GMT -5 budders said:

Jun 2, 2016 15:09:53 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

This has kind of been covered before, but I'm not sad DS is turning one, I'm happy. He's growing up, and becoming more amazing all the time. Yes, I can't believe how fast the year went, but it's great to see him grow up. Also, I can't wait to have another baby, partly just so we can get to the next first birthday and be done with the baby phase.

I'm not sad either, but I am emotional about it. The emotions are a mixture of happiness, disbelief, and reflection on what's happened over the course of the past year.

This is exactly me.

[3dimesdown]

Jun 2, 2016 15:25:51 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

Jun 2, 2016 15:18:47 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

I was wondering if someone would bring up the gorilla this week...

Yup, I did. I'll be honest, and haven't paid attention enough to understand the exact logistics of how the kid wound up in the gorilla enclosure in the first place to place judgement on if his mother should be held responsible or not, but I just think the whole media coverage/million protests about the gorilla himself are getting out of hand.

I will add this - a week or so ago (I think), there was a story about a grown man who jumped into a lion (I think again) enclosure, and apparently left a suicide note. That lion was also killed to save the man. I have more feels about them killing the lion because of some idiot who clearly had a death wish, than killing the gorilla to save a child who can't really grasp the complete consequence of his actions. I would have let the man die, but 100% support killing the gorilla to save a child.

Ok so if your husband or adult child was suicidal and jumped in a lion enclosure to commit suicide you'd be like "bye idiot, that lion's life is just as important as yours"? Cool.

[jillywilly]

Jun 2, 2016 16:38:02 GMT -5 3dimesdown said:

Jun 2, 2016 15:25:51 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

Yup, I did. I'll be honest, and haven't paid attention enough to understand the exact logistics of how the kid wound up in the gorilla enclosure in the first place to place judgement on if his mother should be held responsible or not, but I just think the whole media coverage/million protests about the gorilla himself are getting out of hand.

I will add this - a week or so ago (I think), there was a story about a grown man who jumped into a lion (I think again) enclosure, and apparently left a suicide note. That lion was also killed to save the man. I have more feels about them killing the lion because of some idiot who clearly had a death wish, than killing the gorilla to save a child who can't really grasp the complete consequence of his actions. I would have let the man die, but 100% support killing the gorilla to save a child.

Ok so if your husband or adult child was suicidal and jumped in a lion enclosure to commit suicide you'd be like "bye idiot, that lion's life is just as important as yours"? Cool.

No, I wouldn't be flippant about a loved one being suicidal. However, I believe that all living creatures have value and therefore have a hard time being ok with sacrificing one being for another, when the man was fully aware of the consequences of his actions. I will fully admit that I'm making the assumption in this scenario that the man is not severely mentally disabled, and was indeed aware of what he was doing, since he was found with a suicide not in the story I read.

[sammyca]

UO - I detest blurry photographs. I delete them instantly from my camera roll. I get irrationally annoyed when people post them on here.

[jillywilly]

Jun 2, 2016 19:15:11 GMT -5 @scoop said:

Jun 2, 2016 18:52:34 GMT -5 jillywilly said:

No, I wouldn't be flippant about a loved one being suicidal. However, I believe that all living creatures have value and therefore have a hard time being ok with sacrificing one being for another, when the man was fully aware of the consequences of his actions. I will fully admit that I'm making the assumption in this scenario that the man is not severely mentally disabled, and was indeed aware of what he was doing, since he was found with a suicide not in the story I read.

Unfortunately someone who is suicidal generally isn't in a state of mind I would consider appropriate to fully grasp the consequences of their actions either. 

Fair point. It's obviously not a black and white issue, and I'll admit my initial opinion was a snap judgement of a news snippet I read. I do still have a harder time with animals paying for the consequences of decisions made by adults rather than children, but that being said, you're also not going to find me protesting at the zoo, either.

[jillywilly]

Jun 2, 2016 19:43:33 GMT -5 sammyca said:

UO - I detest blurry photographs. I delete them instantly from my camera roll. I get irrationally annoyed when people post them on here.

I was marveling over how clear pictures of DS were before he was mobile. About 98% of photos since he's been crawling are blurry. Photography is not my strong suit.

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2016 19:43:33 GMT -5 sammyca said:

UO - I detest blurry photographs. I delete them instantly from my camera roll. I get irrationally annoyed when people post them on here.

Well if my child would sit still for one second my pictures wouldn't be blurry.

[carolyngrace]

In general I think 3 photos at most of an event. Unless it's immediately family I will not click on an entire album. I get doing more for a birthday or something like that, especially if you have lots of long distance family who wants to see. But 20 pics of your zoo trip? No thanks.

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2016 22:30:38 GMT -5 @badwolf321 said:

Oh man you guys missed the RAGE in parenting over salads. It was great.

I skipped over those 15 pages. Couldn't get into salad talk. But maybe if I was pregnant I would have more feels about it.

[wegrowsheep]

@jemomma you should know that my phone autocorrects if I misspell your name on here. And although I have a very outdoorsy upbringing and lifestyle, I too, hate camping. Hotels exist for a reason.

I checked into Parenting this morning and all 8 pages hair feels. Snooze.

Animals do crazy shit when hit with a tranq dart. Not all tranquilizers are the same, and the ones that are used IV are not like the ones in the dart. I've seen calves hit with them go batshit crazy and run through fences before collapsing. DNW to risk a gorilla doing that in proximity to a child. Shit happens, the gorilla isn't coming back to life, time for interwebs to move on.

Here's a fun salad fact for everyone: If I (as a farmer) grow lettuce to sell, I can cut off a head of it, put it in a bag, and sell it.
I cannot rinse it off and advertise it as such, unless Health Dept becomes involved.
I cannot mix different kinds of lettuce together, as that makes it a processed, value-added product (more HD regs).
Farming is fun!

[pghtruelove]

Jun 2, 2016 15:55:56 GMT -5 erbear said:

I think it's gross when people let their dogs lick their faces/share food. I grew up with dogs I loved dearly...they used to eat their own poop. Ew.

My dogs lick my face and I let them lick LOs face. Don't care. They don't eat their poop. I walk them and they only time they are free is at the dog park where I keep a close eye on them. Neither one has ever eaten poop(in my care at least). FFFC: I'm overly attached to my dogs. I actually am a crazy dog lady.

[erbear]

You may not see them eat poop, but they still lick themselves/each other. The thought of germs just squicks me out!