The Walking Dead Returns! (Spoilers)

[MissMusic]

Do we have a regular thread about TWD on this board (not to step on any toes)?  Does anyone watch this show?

The mid-season premier just about tore me up inside and now I need to talk to an adult

[jefa]

Not sure there's a weekly thread, but I watched it. I'm surprised that they didn't kill him off sooner. But this episode was just...strange. Not sure if I liked it.

[mustloveerica]

This last season was just meh for me. I'm having a hard time getting into it. I kind of feel like the show has run its course and they're running out of story line. Also Tyrese was kind of a pansy this season. Haha.

[cakewench]

I thought it wasn't going to be much of an episode at first, especially with all the artsy shots at the beginning. It got better, but I hope the rest of the season isn't like that. Was impressed to see David Morrissey again.

I read an interview with Chad Coleman and he mentioned part of the reason he thinks Tyreese was killed off is because in the comics he's Rick's right hand man, but that position has been kinda taken by Daryl in the series, and Tyreese's philosophy doesn't fit in anymore.

Would love to see this be a weekly thread, I'm a huge Walking Dead fan

[kensie5226]

Feb 9, 2015 9:11:50 GMT -5 cakewench said:

I thought it wasn't going to be much of an episode at first, especially with all the artsy shots at the beginning. It got better, but I hope the rest of the season isn't like that. Was impressed to see David Morrissey again.

I read an interview with Chad Coleman and he mentioned part of the reason he thinks Tyreese was killed off is because in the comics he's Rick's right hand man, but that position has been kinda taken by Daryl in the series, and Tyreese's philosophy doesn't fit in anymore.

Would love to see this be a weekly thread, I'm a huge Walking Dead fan

This was my thought. In the comic's he this huge badass guy, which he never was on the show. Obviously that is because Darryl took on the role on the show. I never really got Tyreese in the show. I don't think they did a great job showing all these internal conflicts inside of him until last night. I won't really miss Tyreese, but I really like Chad Coleman, so I am bummed for him.
Just want to say, even in death Beth is the worst.

[LadyNymeria]

Feb 9, 2015 11:04:30 GMT -5 ****** said:

I was not surprised to see him go but what surprised me was how soon after Beth they killed him off! I didn't expect to lose another main character so soon!

This ^^

I was really surprised to lose a big character again so quickly. Can't say I'm all that upset though - he was never my favorite and I wasn't really a fan of how his character was this season. He pissed me off not killing the guy from Terminus when he had the chance.

I've thought this season has been better than last season so far. A lot more action which is why I like the show. I was pretty bored most of last year.

[lilsneezy]

Wasn't crazy about last nights episode. I did like seeing the Governor though.

I bawled when Beth died. Tyreese? Not so much. I was surprised he made it that far.

[RajahMD]

Fucking a man. I could have used this thread last night. DH was having a heart attack. I'm not surprised that they killed him off. I was pleasantly surprised by all the cameos. Loved seeing Beth and the girls again.

Like a previous poster, I cried when Beth died but not last night.

We need to do this every week.

[heatherj9603]

I watched it this morning. I kind of saw tyrese coming considering they've brought in two new black guys. This shows pattern seems to be bring In a new black guy, old ones gotta die. Same thing with sweet old guys, although they havnt brought in a new sweet old man yet. But if they do, he'll surely die!

Just don't kill Darryl, Rick, Carl, carol, Or Maggie and glen. I'm not partial to anyone else at this point. But glen was supposed to die at terminus according to the comics.

eta: I'm also intrigued by the torso and heads thing. I was kind of disappointed by the whole terminus thing. They build up to it all last season then bam, threat is over in one episode. But yet killing off the governer dragged on for two seasons. 

[ceejay]

Feb 9, 2015 8:48:29 GMT -5 jefa said:

Not sure there's a weekly thread, but I watched it. I'm surprised that they didn't kill him off sooner. But this episode was just...strange. Not sure if I liked it.

DH and I thought it was a strange episode too. It seemed like the writers/producers were trying way too hard to be artsy and deep. That's not really what the shows/comics have been about previously, and I would be disappointed if they continued in that direction. Apparently there was supposed to be a lot of symbolism and references that I totally missed and only learned about by watching Talking Dead.

I've never been a huge Tyrese fan (the way he's been on the show at least... in the comics he's much better), so I wasn't too upset about what happened. As others have said, it was surprising that they chose to kill off another main character in the episode after they killed off Beth.

[ceejay]

Feb 9, 2015 12:12:34 GMT -5 heatherj9603 said:

I watched it this morning. I kind of saw tyrese coming considering they've brought in two new black guys. This shows pattern seems to be bring In a new black guy, old ones gotta die. Same thing with sweet old guys, although they havnt brought in a new sweet old man yet. But if they do, he'll surely die!

Just don't kill Darryl, Rick, Carl, carol, Or Maggie and glen. I'm not partial to anyone else at this point. But glen was supposed to die at terminus according to the comics.

eta: I'm also intrigued by the torso and heads thing. I was kind of disappointed by the whole terminus thing. They build up to it all last season then bam, threat is over in one episode. But yet killing off the governer dragged on for two seasons. 

Terminus isn't actually in the comics at all. ***Comics spoiler*** Glenn does die in the comics but not till much later in the storyline.

I agree, though... they built up to Terminus for soooo long and then spent almost no time there before Carol blew it up.

[heatherj9603]

Feb 9, 2015 12:21:49 GMT -5 ceejay said:

Feb 9, 2015 12:12:34 GMT -5 heatherj9603 said:

I watched it this morning. I kind of saw tyrese coming considering they've brought in two new black guys. This shows pattern seems to be bring In a new black guy, old ones gotta die. Same thing with sweet old guys, although they havnt brought in a new sweet old man yet. But if they do, he'll surely die!

Just don't kill Darryl, Rick, Carl, carol, Or Maggie and glen. I'm not partial to anyone else at this point. But glen was supposed to die at terminus according to the comics.

eta: I'm also intrigued by the torso and heads thing. I was kind of disappointed by the whole terminus thing. They build up to it all last season then bam, threat is over in one episode. But yet killing off the governer dragged on for two seasons. 

Terminus isn't actually in the comics at all. ***Comics spoiler*** Glenn does die in the comics but not till much later in the storyline.

I agree, though... they built up to Terminus for soooo long and then spent almost no time there before Carol blew it up.

Oh I never read the comics, that's what someome told me. That they raped him and he died at terminus. 

[kawaiikitsune]

I was actually really upset that they killed him off. He was my favorite character (since Hershel). Truthfully, I'm more surprised that they kept him on as long as they did. I was not feeling the new vibe from last night's episode. I hope they don't continue with that for the rest of the season.

Edited because, spoilers. Sorry lilsneezy.

SPOILER: Click to show

{***Comic book spoilers***}
I'm guessing, with all the torsos, they will be introducing Negan, though I'm not sure if the viewers are ready for that level of violence/brutality. They really toned the governor down on the show so I'll bet they do the same if they do bring in Negan.

[MissMusic]

Feb 9, 2015 11:04:30 GMT -5 ****** said:

I was not surprised to see him go but what surprised me was how soon after Beth they killed him off! I didn't expect to lose another main character so soon!

It was Red Wedding/ Purple wedding, only with a lower body count

[lilsneezy]

No more comic spoilers please!! Or at least give a warning first. I just got the first compendium and haven't started reading it yet.

[MissMusic]

Ack, I'm in the minority here! I loooved the episode!

I feel like Ty was a reminder of what it takes to still maintain your humanity. He was always a beacon of hope, and a moral compass of sorts. This show is exceptionally good at giving you hope and then ripping it away.

I loved the artsy shots. They were all glimpses of whats to come, and like Bob said, it went the way it had to. We never know which way its going to go, but those opening shots gave us a look. They way they tied it all in with the radio, it was fabulous.

I figured Ty's leniency would do him in one day. I'm sad that it was in this way: bitten by the twin brother of his friend, the guy he was trying to protect and comfort. Real nice poetry there.

Dead Governor is awesome. Dead Lizzy is still creepy. Dead Beth is still annoying as fuck. Hey lady, someone's already done Mary Poppins so you can stop now!
Actually, I think the Gov had some really good (if harsh) words for Tyrese.

[lilsneezy]

Feb 9, 2015 12:49:47 GMT -5 kawaiikitsune said:

I was actually really upset that they killed him off. He was my favorite character (since Hershel). Truthfully, I'm more surprised that they kept him on as long as they did. I was not feeling the new vibe from last night's episode. I hope they don't continue with that for the rest of the season.

Edited because, spoilers. Sorry lilsneezy.

SPOILER: Click to show

{***Comic book spoilers***}
I'm guessing, with all the torsos, they will be introducing Negan, though I'm not sure if the viewers are ready for that level of violence/brutality. They really toned the governor down on the show so I'll bet they do the same if they do bring in Negan.

It's okay! I forgot what you said already But thanks for adding the spoiler.

[heatherj9603]

My SIL noticed something and sent me this screen shot. It was when they first walked into the neighborhood. On the other side of her it says wolves, and this side of her looks like "not far"

So wolves not far. Wonder what it means.

[kensie5226]

Feb 9, 2015 13:43:52 GMT -5 heatherj9603 said:

My SIL noticed something and sent me this screen shot. It was when they first walked into the neighborhood. On the other side of her it says wolves, and this side of her looks like "not far"

So wolves not far. Wonder what it means.

There was a whole bunch of symbolism referencing wolves. The heads of the body halves had a W carved into them, and a few of the trees made Ws. They're clearly foreshadowing. The whole town was burned from the inside, not the outside. I wonder if the wolves are literal, or a new group. Gimple said they're headed for another nasty group. It makes me think they had to do away with Tyreese. He was their last real moral compass. Moral compasses aren't super helpful in a fight for survival.

[mishy2010]

Feb 9, 2015 13:05:29 GMT -5 MissMusic said:

Ack, I'm in the minority here! I loooved the episode!

I feel like Ty was a reminder of what it takes to still maintain your humanity. He was always a beacon of hope, and a moral compass of sorts. This show is exceptionally good at giving you hope and then ripping it away.

I loved the artsy shots. They were all glimpses of whats to come, and like Bob said, it went the way it had to. We never know which way its going to go, but those opening shots gave us a look. They way they tied it all in with the radio, it was fabulous.

I figured Ty's leniency would do him in one day. I'm sad that it was in this way: bitten by the twin brother of his friend, the guy he was trying to protect and comfort. Real nice poetry there.

Dead Governor is awesome. Dead Lizzy is still creepy. Dead Beth is still annoying as fuck. Hey lady, someone's already done Mary Poppins so you can stop now!
Actually, I think the Gov had some really good (if harsh) words for Tyrese.

I was going to say the same thing about Ty's death symbolizing them losing a moral compass. The whole episode was about them figuring out what type of people they were going to be.
I really liked the radio program recapping everything they have been through. I want to re watch the episode since there was so much symbolism.

[kawaiikitsune]

Feb 9, 2015 15:40:49 GMT -5 mishy2010 said:

Feb 9, 2015 13:05:29 GMT -5 MissMusic said:

Ack, I'm in the minority here! I loooved the episode!

I feel like Ty was a reminder of what it takes to still maintain your humanity. He was always a beacon of hope, and a moral compass of sorts. This show is exceptionally good at giving you hope and then ripping it away.

I loved the artsy shots. They were all glimpses of whats to come, and like Bob said, it went the way it had to. We never know which way its going to go, but those opening shots gave us a look. They way they tied it all in with the radio, it was fabulous.

I figured Ty's leniency would do him in one day. I'm sad that it was in this way: bitten by the twin brother of his friend, the guy he was trying to protect and comfort. Real nice poetry there.

Dead Governor is awesome. Dead Lizzy is still creepy. Dead Beth is still annoying as fuck. Hey lady, someone's already done Mary Poppins so you can stop now!
Actually, I think the Gov had some really good (if harsh) words for Tyrese.

I was going to say the same thing about Ty's death symbolizing them losing a moral compass. The whole episode was about them figuring out what type of people they were going to be.
I really liked the radio program recapping everything they have been through. I want to re watch the episode since there was so much symbolism.

Dang, I did not notice that. I was too busy sobbing into my dinner.

[lovegrilledcheese]

Feb 9, 2015 15:48:32 GMT -5 kawaiikitsune said:

Feb 9, 2015 15:40:49 GMT -5 mishy2010 said:

I was going to say the same thing about Ty's death symbolizing them losing a moral compass. The whole episode was about them figuring out what type of people they were going to be.
I really liked the radio program recapping everything they have been through. I want to re watch the episode since there was so much symbolism.

Dang, I did not notice that. I was too busy sobbing into my dinner.

It is okay you weren't the only one that was crying and not noticing things. I binge watched TWD the past few weeks and I have been addicted. I am still sad that Beth died more so than when Ty died. I wasn't as in today last night's episode as I have been. I hope the rest of the season is better.

[physiomeg]

I watched the mid-season finale just before the premiere, and I still get goosebumps watching Maggie's reaction to seeing Beth being carried out. It's gut wrenching.

I really like the more symbolic episodes that they've been doing, because as much as I love the action, it got old after a while. I'm still thrilled to see a great and creative walker kill or situation, but I love that it's being made into somewhat of a character and societal piece.

FTR, the episode with Carol and Darryl in the front half of this season was by far my favorite episode of the entire series. All of the Fire symbolism blew my friggin mind.

And just because I love me some TWD memes:

[peaseblossom55]

I'm still sad Beth died, I wasn't too sad when Tyresse was gone. I was kind of shocked they got rid of another major character so soon. My thought was who is going to babysit Judith now? Yea the show seems to be doing away with their moral compasses. It will be interesting to see where the season goes.

[physiomeg]

Feb 9, 2015 20:02:30 GMT -5 @bloodyjack87 said:

Feb 9, 2015 19:54:29 GMT -5 peaseblossom55 said:

I'm still sad Beth died, I wasn't too sad when Tyresse was gone. I was kind of shocked they got rid of another major character so soon. My thought was who is going to babysit Judith now? Yea the show seems to be doing away with their moral compasses. It will be interesting to see where the season goes.

Lol! That was exactly what my H said about there being no one to look after Judith now.

[wowcheezits]

I'm probably in the minority here, especially the fact that I busted up laughing the second Tyrese got bit the first time. I was shocked and it was totally not expecting it to happen at all. I don't like his character and it got me mad last season that he did not kill that guy and he lied about it. I was actually surprised that he did Sonya the favor as to finishing off Bob after he died. Other than that, it was nice to see all the past cast members. I love TWD and I think we should have a weekly thread.

[peaseblossom55]

Feb 9, 2015 20:02:30 GMT -5 @bloodyjack87 said:

Feb 9, 2015 19:54:29 GMT -5 peaseblossom55 said:

I'm still sad Beth died, I wasn't too sad when Tyresse was gone. I was kind of shocked they got rid of another major character so soon. My thought was who is going to babysit Judith now? Yea the show seems to be doing away with their moral compasses. It will be interesting to see where the season goes.

Lol! That was exactly what my H said about there being no one to look after Judith now.

I will be really upset if Judith dies.  

[kawaiikitsune]

Feb 9, 2015 20:36:42 GMT -5 ****** said:

Feb 9, 2015 20:28:16 GMT -5 peaseblossom55 said:

I will be really upset if Judith dies.  

I may be wrong, so comic readers check me, but I think she died at birth. But several characters have lived longer than in the comics.

SPOILER: Click to show

{Comic book spoiler}
She died during the prison attack by the governor. Lori was shot and the bullet went through her and killed Judith too.

[kawaiikitsune]

Feb 9, 2015 20:42:12 GMT -5 ****** said:

kawaiikitsune thanks for clarifying my details! Do you have all the comics? If so, where did you get them? My local comic shop has a few but not all of them.

I buy them as I read them. I have 1-18 currently. My local comic book shop is where I buy mine. Our Books-A-Million has them as well so try any large chain bookstore. Worst-case, Amazon has them.

[peaseblossom55]

Feb 9, 2015 20:36:42 GMT -5 ****** said:

Feb 9, 2015 20:28:16 GMT -5 peaseblossom55 said:

I will be really upset if Judith dies.  

I may be wrong, so comic readers check me, but I think she died at birth. But several characters have lived longer than in the comics.

Comic spoiler warning: I believe she died at the prison when Lori did in the comics