Welcome! I'm just wondering why you are on Clomid when you are only on month 3? Past issues? Are you being properly monitored by an RE?
After talking to some other patient's of this doctor, he likes to give Clomid for several cycles before doing inseminations. I have had problems in the past, which is why I initially was okay with taking it, but there is no monitoring, just tracking of BBT.
My wife and I talked about it last night and we are going to move to a RE. We are hesitant in the travel that it will take and how we are going to pull it off with my work schedule. But, after doing more research I think that it is our best choice.
yikes! Although I do not have any personal experience with clomid, the ladies on here have taught me a lot. I know it is a dangerous drug that you can only take so many times, and can actually lead to thinning of the uterine lining and other fertility problems if not properly monitored by an RE. I'm glad to hear that you are going to be switching over to an RE - it may be inconvenient but your health and fertility are worth it!
I never thought I would be so happy to get my period. lol
Right! And have a board full of girls excited for you as well, haha.
I wanted to tell my co-workers (mostly women) but I knew that would cross a line. LMAO
DH was sweet last night and kept reheating my heat pack I was keeping on my lower stomach trying to ease the cramps. He made dinner when he saw I wasn't up for it...
I'm on the other end of the period update, I'm on day 8 of AF (38 days of bleeding in general) and as of yesterday down to spotting. I'm crossing my fingers that it goes from spotting to nothing. Because pads and tampons are expensive, yo. And I have bought a ton of them in the last month.
Right! And have a board full of girls excited for you as well, haha.
I wanted to tell my co-workers (mostly women) but I knew that would cross a line. LMAO
DH was sweet last night and kept reheating my heat pack I was keeping on my lower stomach trying to ease the cramps. He made dinner when he saw I wasn't up for it...
Numbers: CD5/Month 10 Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): Ogliomenorrhea, bitches Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: RE appointment today! I'm nervous as butts, but my husband is trying to be super supportive, so I'm not too bad. It's just the first appt/consult, so I'm not sure that they'll actually *DO* anything, but still. I'm also not looking forward to hearing how much money we're going to have to spend to maybe have a kid on top of the money we're going to have to spend HAVING the kid. *sighfest* GTKY:Are your taxes done? Do you get them done by someone else or do them yourselves? Procrastinate or get them done early? Complain here if needed! All of you ladies and your complicated tax stuff! We each have 1 W2 and don't have to file state taxes, so we always do our taxes on TurboTax. We have everything put in for Married, Filing Jointly and owe, so we're going to see if Married, Filing Separately changes anything. Doubt it, but we'll see. Sucks, too, 'cause this is the tax year we get to claim buying our first house on. :(
wanderingheart I don't trust it. Your temps aren't that elevated from the rest of them. Sorry! :(
bl1210 Ditto Binx. Keep the appointment, so you can hopefully get some answers; especially if this turns out to be another long cycle.
peaseblossom55 *hugs* I'm so, so sorry you're dealing with ogliomenorrhea, too. It fucking sucks. If you ever need to cry, whine, vent, rant, anything, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks I didn't know it had a name! Other than my body sucks. I can't believe how upsetting and stressful it's been so far. Hugs to you to and thank you!
Yeah, it sucks. You just want a chance, but your body's not playing the same game. Fighting myself is a lot harder than taking shots and missing, personally.
Welcome! I'm just wondering why you are on Clomid when you are only on month 3? Past issues? Are you being properly monitored by an RE?
After talking to some other patient's of this doctor, he likes to give Clomid for several cycles before doing inseminations. I have had problems in the past, which is why I initially was okay with taking it, but there is no monitoring, just tracking of BBT.
My wife and I talked about it last night and we are going to move to a RE. We are hesitant in the travel that it will take and how we are going to pull it off with my work schedule. But, after doing more research I think that it is our best choice.
RUN. Your OB/doctor is toying with your fertility and could cause you to have a very, very hard time not only getting, but staying pregnant. You can only take Clomid for ~6 cycles IN YOUR LIFETIME. If you and your wife choose to try having any subsequent children, the cycles you've already taken Clomid still count. Not to mention, without proper monitoring, you can risk over-responding or, in some cases, actually get hospitalized due to ruptures. @ketchup can tell you more about her incident. I am very, very happy to hear you're moving to a RE because your doctor now is being an irresponsible motherfucker.
Well, now that I've thoroughly covered this page in my avatar, how's about one more?
RE appointment went well yesterday! Finally legitimately diagnosed PCOS and have come up with a plan for treatment...starting with Clomid. I'm scared and I don't wanna, but at least I'm getting properly monitored with a RE? These serious drugs really freak me out, though. We're planning on continuing with natural cyclesmega-long non-cycle body function until this summer-ish (to save up money), so I have plenty of time to get used to the idea.
Also, during the diagnostic U/S, we discovered that I had some pretty big follicles on my right ovary -- big enough that I may have actually ovulated naturally! My RE wants me to wait 90 days before taking Provera again, to see if I'll do something. After that, we'll see where I am and probably go ahead with treatment.
Rama I'm so glad you've finally gotten some answers and have a plan! I would be a little anxious about taking Clomid as well, but just remind yourself that you've done everything the smart way so far, and you will be properly monitored so you will be avoiding any issues. I'm so happy for you! And fx that you did ovulate!
Ah, I worded that pretty confusingly. I'm fairly certain (based on BBT) that I didn't ovulate last cycle, but that I was going to. So, I may have ovulated, if I had waited a few more days before taking Provera, would have been a better statement to make.
Here's hoping that I get it together and do it this cycle, though! :D
Post by moutonrouge on Feb 10, 2015 14:54:04 GMT -5
Fx for a natural ovulatory cycle Rama ! Glad the appt with the RE went well and you have a series of next steps to take - it is really good that you'll be using Clomid the right way and hopefully it will do the trick if it comes to it this summer
I have wondered...is Clomid basically the only one of it's kind when it comes to these kinds of fertility meds? It seems like the side effects are such that it would be used much less frequently than I feel like it is. I don't know much about how it works, and I'm guessing the facts are that anything that will do what it does to your body would have the same possible side effects. But every time someone posts that warning here about how often you can ever take it, I wonder why there haven't been advances to improve that.
Thanks I didn't know it had a name! Other than my body sucks. I can't believe how upsetting and stressful it's been so far. Hugs to you to and thank you!
Yeah, it sucks. You just want a chance, but your body's not playing the same game. Fighting myself is a lot harder than taking shots and missing, personally.
Agreed I was talking to MH about it last night. I wouldn't be so upset or frustrated if I had a chance versus just having bad timing.
Circumstances: I just have long, sometimes annovulatory cycles.
Rants/raves/NFNSQ: I suck at remembering to temp this cycle. I skipped last cycle, because I'm lazy and it was the holidays, and now I can't seem to find the motivation to remember to temp. Ugh. Get it together!
Edit: I forgot to answer the gtky.
Gtky: we have not done our taxes yet. But when we do, I get my mini cooper!! I've been saving up for months for a new car and it's finally in sight! Dh does them. He was going to do them yesterday, but I forgot to leave my stuff with him like an idiot. Lol.
Fx for a natural ovulatory cycle Rama ! Glad the appt with the RE went well and you have a series of next steps to take - it is really good that you'll be using Clomid the right way and hopefully it will do the trick if it comes to it this summer
I have wondered...is Clomid basically the only one of it's kind when it comes to these kinds of fertility meds? It seems like the side effects are such that it would be used much less frequently than I feel like it is. I don't know much about how it works, and I'm guessing the facts are that anything that will do what it does to your body would have the same possible side effects. But every time someone posts that warning here about how often you can ever take it, I wonder why there haven't been advances to improve that.
Originally my OBGYN mentioned Femara. (The office is also a fertility/OBGYN all in one). Supposedly Femara is newer with WAY less side effects. My office does not even prescribe Clomid bc of the side effects and "twinning" risk.
Lurking (I used to and may soon again go here) ... Congrats for all the CD1s this week ( aprilz81, bunnyfungo, anyone I missed) and yay for diagnosis and answers Rama! I hope your body gets it together and O's on its own for you this cycle!
Fx for a natural ovulatory cycle Rama ! Glad the appt with the RE went well and you have a series of next steps to take - it is really good that you'll be using Clomid the right way and hopefully it will do the trick if it comes to it this summer
I have wondered...is Clomid basically the only one of it's kind when it comes to these kinds of fertility meds? It seems like the side effects are such that it would be used much less frequently than I feel like it is. I don't know much about how it works, and I'm guessing the facts are that anything that will do what it does to your body would have the same possible side effects. But every time someone posts that warning here about how often you can ever take it, I wonder why there haven't been advances to improve that.
Originally my OBGYN mentioned Femara. (The office is also a fertility/OBGYN all in one). Supposedly Femara is newer with WAY less side effects. My office does not even prescribe Clomid bc of the side effects and "twinning" risk.
I would ask about femera as well. Less side effects, no lifetime max and no thinned lining. My RE starts with Femera and only goes to clomid if there is no response to femera. He actually said he does not like using it with so many risks.
Originally my OBGYN mentioned Femara. (The office is also a fertility/OBGYN all in one). Supposedly Femara is newer with WAY less side effects. My office does not even prescribe Clomid bc of the side effects and "twinning" risk.
I would ask about femera as well. Less side effects, no lifetime max and no thinned lining. My RE starts with Femera and only goes to clomid if there is no response to femera. He actually said he does not like using it with so many risks.
britterrss & cateyes: No, Femara didn't come up in my appointment, but luckily, I'm able to contact my RE if I ever have a question. :) I'm comfortable with following her lead on this, if she thinks Clomid is the better option (I know some practices don't like using letrozole because it is not FDA regulated for ovulation/fertility -- just breast cancer); her track record is pretty good for care and I genuinely feel like she has my best interests at heart.
Well, now that I've thoroughly covered this page in my avatar, how's about one more?
RE appointment went well yesterday! Finally legitimately diagnosed PCOS and have come up with a plan for treatment...starting with Clomid. I'm scared and I don't wanna, but at least I'm getting properly monitored with a RE? These serious drugs really freak me out, though. We're planning on continuing with natural cyclesmega-long non-cycle body function until this summer-ish (to save up money), so I have plenty of time to get used to the idea.
Also, during the diagnostic U/S, we discovered that I had some pretty big follicles on my right ovary -- big enough that I may have actually ovulated naturally! My RE wants me to wait 90 days before taking Provera again, to see if I'll do something. After that, we'll see where I am and probably go ahead with treatment.
tl;dr Yay answers/solutions, holy crap Clomid.
Yay for answers! I'm terrified of Clomid too, but you're doing everything you can to ensure you're being monitored which is awesome.
Rama, I'm so glad you got some answers and a plan to move forward. It's so great that you trust your RE. I Hope with the proper monitoring that Clomid is a safe and helpful option for you!
After talking to some other patient's of this doctor, he likes to give Clomid for several cycles before doing inseminations. I have had problems in the past, which is why I initially was okay with taking it, but there is no monitoring, just tracking of BBT.
My wife and I talked about it last night and we are going to move to a RE. We are hesitant in the travel that it will take and how we are going to pull it off with my work schedule. But, after doing more research I think that it is our best choice.
Hai, guise! Just droppin' on in to drop some knowledge up in hurr. Got bat signaled. 'Cuse me for a second..
FACT: your OBGYN is a fucking idiot.
Clomid is serious business. You need monitoring. The fact that he "likes to give Clomid for several cycles" screams negligence. Have you even had an HSG? If your tubes aren't clear, all the Clomid in the world isn't going to help once you move to IUI. AND YOU HAVE PCOS. Any dipshit of a doctor with Clomid 101 knowledge would know that Clomid + PCOS puts a woman at risk for a ruptured ovarian cyst, OHSS (like a certain condiment you may have heard dealt with) and over-stimming in general. Then there is the fact that some PCOS'ers don't even respond to Clomid at all. If he's telling you to track your O at home to help him determine how you respond to Clomid, then he is really making the ability to spot the Dr. Dipshit & Co. van that a lot of OBGYNs drive down Fertility Meds Lane super easy. Temping isn't going to answer the question of whether Clomid is "working" for you. Andplusalso, fertility meds notoriously throw temps off. Honestly, my dog ate (chewed to death, but close) my BBT months ago. I laughed. No need for one when you have a doctor up your vag every few days mid-cycle tracking your cycles. Which you don't. Bet your (possibly hypothetical) dog would be in deep shit, huh?
Then, there is the fact that Clomid response can vary by dose. You want to know what if at all response you have to Clomid before you start makin' it rain all up in the billing department at your better be with an RE soon-to-be IUI. IF treatment is expensive as hell OOP. If he were monitoring you, he'd know prior to IUI (which, dontchu even think about using him or any OB for this) not just if you were responding but how you were responding. What if you wind up in the hospital with a ruptured cyst and subsequently benched for months over respond on 100mg Clomid like I did? Would he just blindly assume 50mg would be the "magic dose" for an IUI cycle? Would he not monitor you then, too? *cough*prolly*cough* If all of that were the case, what if you responded by producing 5 mature follicles and every single one of them ovulated and fertilized? You do know the story of Kate Gosselin, right? Andplusalso, err body knows that Clomid thins your lining. This can be permanent. Then there is the whole increased risk of ovarian tumors after prolonged use.. hence why there is a 6 MAX LIFETIME use per the pharmaceutical company that makes it.
MOAR reasons Clomid is a no-no from this special breed of uneducated: this is his standard thing. He likes to give Clomid for several cycles before insemination. Prolonged use of back to back Clomid cycles is counter productive when trying to get KU. FACT: Clomid works by blocking estrogen receptors in the pituitary gland, which stimulates the pituitary gland to produce FSH. This then leads to the FSH stimulating the ovaries. Basically, it tricks the brain into thinking your body is low on estrogen and, in response, your brain then stimulates the ovaries harder. Did you know that after using Clomid for too many consecutive cycles without at least an 8wk break in between to "flush" your body of the estrogen inhibitor, that Clomid then effectively starts working as a contraceptive? Did you also know that Clomid started out being researched as a BCP until they realize it actually stimulated the ovaries via a part of your brain? Here's why this is important. Because eventually, it builds up and blocks ALL of the estrogen receptors and therefore, no estrogen for the rest of your reproductive system. Once that happens, your ovaries can brain-stim all they want - the rest of your body isn't buying the bullshit anymore will respond to the absence of estrogen (which it relies on to signal it to produce the fertile mucus, uterine lining and tubal motility), and that response will make the fact that your ovaries are pumpin' eggs out of the factory a moot point.
Ask your doc what he's got to say about ^ that the next time you talk to him. Which should be to ask for a referral (if required) to an RE. But, whatever you do, please stop taking Clomid from a moron. Go see someone (this would not include another OBGYN) who knows what the hell they are talking about and who actually has experience in 3rd party reproduction. Otherwise, you are risking the future of your reproductive health and costing yourself a whole lot of time/treatment cycles that you can't get back.
TL;dr - NO CLOMID FOR SHITS AND GIGS with an OBGYN. (and yes, I just intentionally interweb-yelled) For the everlovingfuckithoftimes.
After talking to some other patient's of this doctor, he likes to give Clomid for several cycles before doing inseminations. I have had problems in the past, which is why I initially was okay with taking it, but there is no monitoring, just tracking of BBT.
My wife and I talked about it last night and we are going to move to a RE. We are hesitant in the travel that it will take and how we are going to pull it off with my work schedule. But, after doing more research I think that it is our best choice.
Hai, guise! Just droppin' on in to drop some knowledge up in hurr. Got bat signaled. 'Cuse me for a second..
FACT: your OBGYN is a fucking idiot.
Clomid is serious business. You need monitoring. The fact that he "likes to give Clomid for several cycles" screams negligence. Have you even had an HSG? If your tubes aren't clear, all the Clomid in the world isn't going to help once you move to IUI. AND YOU HAVE PCOS. Any dipshit of a doctor with Clomid 101 knowledge would know that Clomid + PCOS puts a woman at risk for a ruptured ovarian cyst, OHSS (like a certain condiment you may have heard dealt with) and over-stimming in general. Then there is the fact that some PCOS'ers don't even respond to Clomid at all. If he's telling you to track your O at home to help him determine how you respond to Clomid, then he is really making the ability to spot the Dr. Dipshit & Co. van that a lot of OBGYNs drive down Fertility Meds Lane super easy. Temping isn't going to answer the question of whether Clomid is "working" for you. Andplusalso, fertility meds notoriously throw temps off. Honestly, my dog ate (chewed to death, but close) my BBT months ago. I laughed. No need for one when you have a doctor up your vag every few days mid-cycle tracking your cycles. Which you don't. Bet your (possibly hypothetical) dog would be in deep shit, huh?
Then, there is the fact that Clomid response can vary by dose. You want to know what if at all response you have to Clomid before you start makin' it rain all up in the billing department at your better be with an RE soon-to-be IUI. IF treatment is expensive as hell OOP. If he were monitoring you, he'd know prior to IUI (which, dontchu even think about using him or any OB for this) not just if you were responding but how you were responding. What if you wind up in the hospital with a ruptured cyst and subsequently benched for months over respond on 100mg Clomid like I did? Would he just blindly assume 50mg would be the "magic dose" for an IUI cycle? Would he not monitor you then, too? *cough*prolly*cough* If all of that were the case, what if you responded by producing 5 mature follicles and every single one of them ovulated and fertilized? You do know the story of Kate Gosselin, right? Andplusalso, err body knows that Clomid thins your lining. This can be permanent. Then there is the whole increased risk of ovarian tumors after prolonged use.. hence why there is a 6 MAX LIFETIME use per the pharmaceutical company that makes it.
MOAR reasons Clomid is a no-no from this special breed of uneducated: this is his standard thing. He likes to give Clomid for several cycles before insemination. Prolonged use of back to back Clomid cycles is counter productive when trying to get KU. FACT: Clomid works by blocking estrogen receptors in the pituitary gland, which stimulates the pituitary gland to produce FSH. This then leads to the FSH stimulating the ovaries. Basically, it tricks the brain into thinking your body is low on estrogen and, in response, your brain then stimulates the ovaries harder. Did you know that after using Clomid for too many consecutive cycles without at least an 8wk break in between to "flush" your body of the estrogen inhibitor, that Clomid then effectively starts working as a contraceptive? Did you also know that Clomid started out being researched as a BCP until they realize it actually stimulated the ovaries via a part of your brain? Here's why this is important. Because eventually, it builds up and blocks ALL of the estrogen receptors and therefore, no estrogen for the rest of your reproductive system. Once that happens, your ovaries can brain-stim all they want - the rest of your body isn't buying the bullshit anymore will respond to the absence of estrogen (which it relies on to signal it to produce the fertile mucus, uterine lining and tubal motility), and that response will make the fact that your ovaries are pumpin' eggs out of the factory a moot point.
Ask your doc what he's got to say about ^ that the next time you talk to him. Which should be to ask for a referral (if required) to an RE. But, whatever you do, please stop taking Clomid from a moron. Go see someone (this would not include another OBGYN) who knows what the hell they are talking about and who actually has experience in 3rd party reproduction. Otherwise, you are risking the future of your reproductive health and costing yourself a whole lot of time/treatment cycles that you can't get back.
TL;dr - NO CLOMID FOR SHITS AND GIGS with an OBGYN. (and yes, I just intentionally interweb-yelled) For the everlovingfuckithoftimes.
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