After talking to some other patient's of this doctor, he likes to give Clomid for several cycles before doing inseminations. I have had problems in the past, which is why I initially was okay with taking it, but there is no monitoring, just tracking of BBT.
My wife and I talked about it last night and we are going to move to a RE. We are hesitant in the travel that it will take and how we are going to pull it off with my work schedule. But, after doing more research I think that it is our best choice.
Hai, guise! Just droppin' on in to drop some knowledge up in hurr. Got bat signaled. 'Cuse me for a second..
FACT: your OBGYN is a fucking idiot.
Clomid is serious business. You need monitoring. The fact that he "likes to give Clomid for several cycles" screams negligence. Have you even had an HSG? If your tubes aren't clear, all the Clomid in the world isn't going to help once you move to IUI. AND YOU HAVE PCOS. Any dipshit of a doctor with Clomid 101 knowledge would know that Clomid + PCOS puts a woman at risk for a ruptured ovarian cyst, OHSS (like a certain condiment you may have heard dealt with) and over-stimming in general. Then there is the fact that some PCOS'ers don't even respond to Clomid at all. If he's telling you to track your O at home to help him determine how you respond to Clomid, then he is really making the ability to spot the Dr. Dipshit & Co. van that a lot of OBGYNs drive down Fertility Meds Lane super easy. Temping isn't going to answer the question of whether Clomid is "working" for you. Andplusalso, fertility meds notoriously throw temps off. Honestly, my dog ate (chewed to death, but close) my BBT months ago. I laughed. No need for one when you have a doctor up your vag every few days mid-cycle tracking your cycles. Which you don't. Bet your (possibly hypothetical) dog would be in deep shit, huh?
Then, there is the fact that Clomid response can vary by dose. You want to know what if at all response you have to Clomid before you start makin' it rain all up in the billing department at your better be with an RE soon-to-be IUI. IF treatment is expensive as hell OOP. If he were monitoring you, he'd know prior to IUI (which, dontchu even think about using him or any OB for this) not just if you were responding but how you were responding. What if you wind up in the hospital with a ruptured cyst and subsequently benched for months over respond on 100mg Clomid like I did? Would he just blindly assume 50mg would be the "magic dose" for an IUI cycle? Would he not monitor you then, too? *cough*prolly*cough* If all of that were the case, what if you responded by producing 5 mature follicles and every single one of them ovulated and fertilized? You do know the story of Kate Gosselin, right? Andplusalso, err body knows that Clomid thins your lining. This can be permanent. Then there is the whole increased risk of ovarian tumors after prolonged use.. hence why there is a 6 MAX LIFETIME use per the pharmaceutical company that makes it.
MOAR reasons Clomid is a no-no from this special breed of uneducated: this is his standard thing. He likes to give Clomid for several cycles before insemination. Prolonged use of back to back Clomid cycles is counter productive when trying to get KU. FACT: Clomid works by blocking estrogen receptors in the pituitary gland, which stimulates the pituitary gland to produce FSH. This then leads to the FSH stimulating the ovaries. Basically, it tricks the brain into thinking your body is low on estrogen and, in response, your brain then stimulates the ovaries harder. Did you know that after using Clomid for too many consecutive cycles without at least an 8wk break in between to "flush" your body of the estrogen inhibitor, that Clomid then effectively starts working as a contraceptive? Did you also know that Clomid started out being researched as a BCP until they realize it actually stimulated the ovaries via a part of your brain? Here's why this is important. Because eventually, it builds up and blocks ALL of the estrogen receptors and therefore, no estrogen for the rest of your reproductive system. Once that happens, your ovaries can brain-stim all they want - the rest of your body isn't buying the bullshit anymore will respond to the absence of estrogen (which it relies on to signal it to produce the fertile mucus, uterine lining and tubal motility), and that response will make the fact that your ovaries are pumpin' eggs out of the factory a moot point.
Ask your doc what he's got to say about ^ that the next time you talk to him. Which should be to ask for a referral (if required) to an RE. But, whatever you do, please stop taking Clomid from a moron. Go see someone (this would not include another OBGYN) who knows what the hell they are talking about and who actually has experience in 3rd party reproduction. Otherwise, you are risking the future of your reproductive health and costing yourself a whole lot of time/treatment cycles that you can't get back.
TL;dr - NO CLOMID FOR SHITS AND GIGS with an OBGYN. (and yes, I just intentionally interweb-yelled) For the everlovingfuckithoftimes.
Thanks for dropping your knowledge on me! It is very much appreciated. I am nervous to meet with the RE, but just because I don't like change, but I know that it is the best decision.
I am pregnant again for the second time in as many months. I am FREAKING OUT. Thoughts, prayers and good vibes will be much appreciated.
I love everyone here; you have kept the wackadoo cycles from feeling quite so hopeless. Hugs all around!
3houlagirl I am so, so, so incredibly happy for you, words can't even describe! I am crossing EVERYTHING for you this pregnancy -- hope it's as calm and carefree as the best of them. <3
Post by 3houlagirl on Feb 12, 2015 11:47:14 GMT -5
Thanks, y'all!
I am currently recovering from a RAGING sinus infection (hence me not being around until today) But Just for you guys, I am on the desktop to give you baby goat love. Once I figure out how to do that, we"ll be set...
I am currently recovering from a RAGING sinus infection (hence me not being around until today) But Just for you guys, I am on the desktop to give you baby goat love. Once I figure out how to do that, we"ll be set...
You are so sweet. I hope you feel better soon!! Sinus infections suck!
Post by 3houlagirl on Feb 12, 2015 12:14:26 GMT -5
Okay, I seriously CANNOT be this dumb. I can't get any pictures to upload. Not directly from the computer, not from photobucket, nothing. Am I missing something obvious?!
I WANT to share the baby goats, but proboards is a bitch...
Are pictures actually uploadable straight to proboards? I don't know how photbucket works because I usually use tinypic but do they give you some sort of a code for your picture? Then you can copy and paste that inbetween
[IMG*] CODE HERE [/IMG*]
Without spaces or asterisks. I hope that helps at all
Post by LadyNymeria on Feb 12, 2015 12:29:12 GMT -5
3houlagirl - I use postimage.org. Just upload the picture(s) from your computer, select a size, and click upload. After the site loads, it will show you the picture and it gives you codes for the pictures.
Copy the code next to where it says "Direct Link" then come here and post:
[img*]paste code from postimage here[*/img] but without the *
Post by 3houlagirl on Feb 12, 2015 12:50:51 GMT -5
bl1210 Bianca is a mini-nubian. I didn't much care to fight with a full-grown nubian on the milking stand (I'm small; a nubian would outweigh me) and the minis are about half the size, with 3/4 the milk production. they also consume about half the feed, which is nice.
I'm an enabler when it comes to animals, so I say DOOOO IIIIIT...
bl1210, aprilz81 Congrats on getting answers! PCOS is luckily one of the easier-to-treat TTC complications because it's so common. :) Good luck with both of your treatments and know you're very much in good company. <3
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