Is there a special kind of doctor you have to go to to get these vacs? There are cons to getting vaccinated and I would like to know options.
Not a special kind of doctor, she's a regular pediatrician. It was just a matter of calling around and asking if the offices had it available. She was the only pediatrician around with them, and luckily is also a very good doctor. I recommend calling some doctors in your area and asking if they provide (or can, if needed) preservative free vaccines.
Have you done any research on declawing cats? It's equivalent to cutting off our fingers at the last knuckle. I know it seems like a quick fix to scratching, but it can actually cause more behavioral (and physical) problems. Please do a little research before you bring your cat in! You might change your mind.
I know all of this and I know there are alternatives. But I am also going to a vet that I have known for years and trust very much. I have had cats all my life and feel like this is the best idea for us. Especially with a four month old kitten.
Also I would never suggest having an older cat declawed. Our six year old cat still has his claws for this exact reason. At this point in his life the trauma and the surgery would not be worth it. I am lucky we don't have any scratching problem with him, but even if we did there is no way I would ever get him declawed. We would be using other options.
Thank you for your concern though.
So you're totally cool with doing it for one without seeming to try anything to help, but never ever doing it for the other? If the kitten ever gets out, it will not have any defenses. It won't even be able to climb to get away from something. When my cats were little, we started trimming their nails like you would for a dog. Our vet-tech (soon to be vet) friend suggested it, and it has saved our sanity. Our cats are great about only scratching on sisal and one particular type of rug because they were taught to scratch there. With trimmed claws (like once every couple of weeks), their claws don't catch on fabric and furniture now.
When Muon was a baby he was really bad with his claws. He had absolutely no control, but he was a baby. They learn control over time, but you have to give them the chance. Instead of just cutting off a joint on your kitten's fingers, maybe you could look into other solutions first.
ETA: Our cats won't use regular carpet scratching posts or cardboard scratchers. We accept that they're weird, but we kept looking until we found what they liked. My mom's cat will only use cardboard scratchers, and my mom started her on them late in life (about the time she got her).
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Back in the day, people used to get together and have"chicken pox" parties to infect their children because once you get them you don't get them again and the older you get them the worse they get it. Similar to measles. Once you get them you won't get them again. But people have died from measles due to complications.
Post by kasaundrar on Feb 10, 2015 11:47:34 GMT -5
This is the last thing I will say. I have two cats. I got both of them when they were two months old. Once they hit about 6 months they calmed down a lot and now they just sleep all the time. Our neighborhood has a ton of outdoor cats and strays that we feed. One day our little boy got out and there was another cat sitting out side. He came running towards our cat but he was able to defend himself. BECAUSE HE HAD CLAWS. How would you feel if you had your fingers chopped off? I'd recommend doing some more research.
I suppose everyone can put me on their list for Tuesday's Twatwaffle and I am just going to have to be ok with that.
easilyunamused I have done my research, I know what declawing does to a cat and I know what the risks are. I also trust my vet to do a good job and to take care of my kitten post surgery and to keep her as pain free as we are able during the recovery process.
I really can't defend something that I know is a painful process to go through, there are plenty of articles available detailing the process. I get it, but I also know that there are plenty of well adjusted cats in the world who have had their claws removed as young kittens.
piccyami We do trim both of the cats claws. The older cat was an outside cat for three years which is why he still has his claws, and now that he is six he will be keeping his claws indefinitely. He has zero problems with trimmings. The kitten on the other hand has a huge problem with her claws getting trimmed. Huge. I have been a pet owner for many years, I groom and trim our dogs nails myself. I am no stranger to animals. We haven't been just standing idly by letting her wreak havoc on our home while waiting for the first second we're able to have her declawed. As I said previously, they have a scratching post and we have been using keep off spray. My curtains are tied up and all the doors in the house are always closed so she can't go into the bathrooms or two of the bedrooms. She is gently removed from situations where she is being destructive.
Like I said, I appreciate the concerns being voiced and I realize that there is a valid argument here. However the decision has already been made. I don't really know any other way to put it so I am respectfully backing away from this conversation.
Post by SubtleGrandeur on Feb 10, 2015 12:14:14 GMT -5
I'm a twatwaffle. I totally forgot what board I was on and mentioned my DD in a post on the TTCAL board. I feel like shit. Ugh. I don't think I can hang there anymore.
I suppose everyone can put me on their list for Tuesday's Twatwaffle and I am just going to have to be ok with that.
easilyunamused I have done my research, I know what declawing does to a cat and I know what the risks are. I also trust my vet to do a good job and to take care of my kitten post surgery and to keep her as pain free as we are able during the recovery process.
I really can't defend something that I know is a painful process to go through, there are plenty of articles available detailing the process. I get it, but I also know that there are plenty of well adjusted cats in the world who have had their claws removed as young kittens.
piccyami We do trim both of the cats claws. The older cat was an outside cat for three years which is why he still has his claws, and now that he is six he will be keeping his claws indefinitely. He has zero problems with trimmings. The kitten on the other hand has a huge problem with her claws getting trimmed. Huge. I have been a pet owner for many years, I groom and trim our dogs nails myself. I am no stranger to animals. We haven't been just standing idly by letting her wreak havoc on our home while waiting for the first second we're able to have her declawed. As I said previously, they have a scratching post and we have been using keep off spray. My curtains are tied up and all the doors in the house are always closed so she can't go into the bathrooms or two of the bedrooms. She is gently removed from situations where she is being destructive.
Like I said, I appreciate the concerns being voiced and I realize that there is a valid argument here. However the decision has already been made. I don't really know any other way to put it so I am respectfully backing away from this conversation.
You actually got a far nicer response than the last time someone mentioned that they were declawing their cat. I'm obviously not going to convince you, but it is your decision to possibly put your pet in pain for the rest of his life. Dealing with a kitten takes a lot of energy and time, which you seem to understand. We did a lot of redirecting and placing the cats on scratching posts until they understood. They still tear through the house and knock things over, and are generally obnoxious, but they know what is allowed and what isn't. Of course, we got them from someone who knows how to deal with kittens and puppies.
Post by JulietRose on Feb 10, 2015 12:39:30 GMT -5
Insurance companies are twats. I like my current insurance, but my previous insurance company is being a dick and not being a team player with my current insurance over a surgery i had in August when I had both insurance companies at the same time. Damn bitches and ho's.
AMC's website is a twatwaffle. We missed TWD on Sunday. Logged on to watch it online last night and the video won't play. It won't play any videos that require a subscription, but will play the freebies. WTF AMC? We sent an email about the issue, but in the meantime I can't look anywhere online that may have spoilers, which is almost everywhere.
Ours worked but the video was skipping so terribly and so often that we gave up after 15 minutes. Ugh!
People who have"measles" parties are fucking twatwaffles. You can lose a kid that way. I heard this from one of the docs at work today and at first I didn't believe it. I looked around on the interwebs and this is actually a thing. WTAF
My parents and some of our family friends used to do this with chicken pox, especially if there was one kid who somehow hadn't had it by the time they got to age 10 or so. But Jesus, doing it with measles is just such a bad idea.
Guarantee you these are the same people who won't vaccinate because they're worried the vaccines will make their kid autistic.
All the twats on the road who want to drive 30 under the speed limit because it's raining.
I live in the Seattle area, and somehow we still get people who do this. Like, do you not understand how to drive in the rain yet? We get more rain than any other type of weather. How are you still scared of it?
I'm a twatwaffle. Or my body is. Or both. Whatever... It's CD1 and I just spilled marinara sauce on my khaki skirt. I'd actually laugh if I weren't so over-emotional.
And for something slightly less AW, my coworkers are twatwaffles. They have something that needs to be printed ASAP. So when do they send it to us to review for accuracy? Ten to five the day before they need it. Too bad it was using year-old copy so it needed massive changes... (Also it's not like this was an unexpected project, it's for an annual thing held at the same time every year.)
All the twats on the road who want to drive 30 under the speed limit because it's raining.
I live in the Seattle area, and somehow we still get people who do this. Like, do you not understand how to drive in the rain yet? We get more rain than any other type of weather. How are you still scared of it?
This is how I feel in MI. Rain seems to scare people half to death. Yet it snows or it's icy and people fly by as if they are invincible.
My twatwaffle: Comcast. Again. Now we're still being charged for a modem that we didn't want to pay for and returned. They say it's because they can't do anything until the next billing statement. I know this isn't true because I've seen credits from this fiasco go on my account after the last bill. Sometimes, I wonder if TD and Comcast are run by the same monkeys.
You haven't gave a legitimate reason as to why you are declawing your kitten though, nuggetrn.
Cats have claws. Honestly, I feel like if you can't handle this, don't get a cat.
Why is it that people feel the need to remove a cat's claws, but dogs have (generally) larger and more destructive (again, generally) claws and just have them trimmed?
I have a consistent twatwaffle in my life who is driving me particularly crazy this week.
Back story: H and I life in a very large HOA (3200 properties plus 10 condo associations, close to 7000 residents total). There's been a lot of mismanagement in the last few years that has lead to a lot of division and mistrust between different areas of the HOA. The population is also pretty diverse, ranging from high-income retirees to low-income young families, so that doesn't help the divisions.
This particular twatwaffle spends her days posting to a Facebook page set up by some of the HOA members (I haven't been able to convince my fellow HOA board members to set up an official Facebook page... technology is scary, ya'll). Everything she posts is negative. EVERYTHING. Someone posts about their kids doing a fundraiser? She replies with a long winded rant about how the jack booted thugs running the HOA won't let them solicit door to door (not true). I posted that we were looking for people to join the Board of Directors and she commented with another long winded rant about how no one wants to be on the Board because this isn't a HOA anymore it's a corporation run by tyrants who want to take away our property rights.
Yesterday she sent an email to the entire Board of Directors for the HOA as well as the entire Water District commission demanding that one of our Directors be forced out of her position either with us or with the Water District because her serving on both constituted a "conflict of interest". She cc'ed an entire Yahoo group on the email. She refuses to answer any questions from our board, the water commissioners or her own Yahoo group on how this constitutes a conflict of interest, since the director in question is receiving no direct benefit from being on both, and the HOA has no direct business relationship with the water district.
It's driving me nuts. And I'm trying to make sure that my personal contact info doesn't get out, because she's been known to continually call people on the board or on sub-committees to harangue them about decisions they've made or to rant about how bad a job is being done on everything.
I seriously just hate people like this. You don't have one positive thing to say and you refuse to join in any efforts to do anything about the problem. Just go away, then!
My twatwaffle: Comcast. Again. Now we're still being charged for a modem that we didn't want to pay for and returned. They say it's because they can't do anything until the next billing statement. I know this isn't true because I've seen credits from this fiasco go on my account after the last bill. Sometimes, I wonder if TD and Comcast are run by the same monkeys.
They're so stupid. They charged me for 3 outlets that they claimed to have installed for $99. And then they started sending bills right after each other so that we'd pay one, and the next bill wouldn't show that we paid even though they said we did, etc.
Post by sassypantzz on Feb 10, 2015 14:14:36 GMT -5
Twatwaffle award goes to my boss and her telling me that my books aren't "accurate" when really she just does not understand accrual accounting vs cash...
My twatwaffle: Comcast. Again. Now we're still being charged for a modem that we didn't want to pay for and returned. They say it's because they can't do anything until the next billing statement. I know this isn't true because I've seen credits from this fiasco go on my account after the last bill. Sometimes, I wonder if TD and Comcast are run by the same monkeys.
Contact the Better Business Bureau. They tried to over charge us $40 dollars over our bill for a service they swore was only $10. After contacting BBB we get a discount on our cable and STARZ for free for a year.
The imaging facility staff that did my HSG this morning are twatwaffles. We were 20 minutes late getting started even though I was there half an hour early. The tech could not have been less interested in doing her job, and the doctor promptly said in the most condescending and babying voice, "Today we are going to do an HSG. Do you know what that is? We are doing this for your *infertility*." Complete with the accent on the last word, as if I didn't know this was an issue.
Post by kasaundrar on Feb 10, 2015 14:20:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't even have comcast but where we live has a contract with them where you can't use any other service without being charged and getting approved. So Comcast is also a twatwaffle.
My twatwaffle: Comcast. Again. Now we're still being charged for a modem that we didn't want to pay for and returned. They say it's because they can't do anything until the next billing statement. I know this isn't true because I've seen credits from this fiasco go on my account after the last bill. Sometimes, I wonder if TD and Comcast are run by the same monkeys.
Contact the Better Business Bureau. They tried to over charge us $40 dollars over our bill for a service they swore was only $10. After contacting BBB we get a discount on our cable and STARZ for free for a year.
I should, or at least threaten to when I talk to them tonight. I wish they could all get on the same page instead of telling me all sorts of different conflicting information.
ohinvrtedworld, I wish I could drop them, but they have a monopoly in our area. It sucks. They tried to offer us something better than what we have with DirecTV, but when he gave the offer (after asking how much we spent), I asked him how his offer was better than the current situation. It wasn't and we love DirecTV's customer service and ability to update account info with at least a "pending" change.
The imaging facility staff that did my HSG this morning are twatwaffles. We were 20 minutes late getting started even though I was there half an hour early. The tech could not have been less interested in doing her job, and the doctor promptly said in the most condescending and babying voice, "Today we are going to do an HSG. Do you know what that is? We are doing this for your *infertility*." Complete with the accent on the last word, as if I didn't know this was an issue.
Oh hell no. Being a provider myself, I have little patience with horrible customer service. If that happened to me, I would not be seeing them again.
Cats have claws. Honestly, I feel like if you can't handle this, don't get a cat.
Why is it that people feel the need to remove a cat's claws, but dogs have (generally) larger and more destructive (again, generally) claws and just have them trimmed?
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