I tested yesterday 16po after an IUI turned TI cycle. I saw the faintest of faintest lines. I knew that if I were pregnant, it would have to be darker than that. I tested again this morning and that line got even fainter, basically non existent. So, I'm thinking it was a CP. I stopped my vaginal progesterone and just waiting for AF so that we can get IVF #4 started. I cannot believe that we are doing this AGAIN. I'm so over it already.
Debbie downer (a place to vent): See above.
QOTW: What is your favorite fall activity? Doing anything outside with the nice, cool weather!!
I'd ask for a blood test at your clinic, just in case. The faintness of a line doesn't indicate anything necessarily. Different tests and all that.
**losses and lo mentioned** 2012 - 3 IUI - all BFN 3/13 IVF #1 OHSS, 4 frozen 6/13 FET #1 2 transferred, BFN 8/13 FET #2 cancelled, thin lining 11/13 FET #2.2 cancelled, thin lining *new doctor* 3/14 IVF #2 3dt of 3 8-cell embryos BFP, all implanted, lost 2 babies, one baby born 11/14 2/16 FET #2.3 of 2 embryos, BFN IVF #3 4/16 early MC at 5 weeks TI with follistim 8/16 - CP IVF #4 Fall 2016
I tested yesterday 16po after an IUI turned TI cycle. I saw the faintest of faintest lines. I knew that if I were pregnant, it would have to be darker than that. I tested again this morning and that line got even fainter, basically non existent. So, I'm thinking it was a CP. I stopped my vaginal progesterone and just waiting for AF so that we can get IVF #4 started. I cannot believe that we are doing this AGAIN. I'm so over it already.
Debbie downer (a place to vent): See above.
QOTW: What is your favorite fall activity? Doing anything outside with the nice, cool weather!!
I'd ask for a blood test at your clinic, just in case. The faintness of a line doesn't indicate anything necessarily. Different tests and all that.
Also, I still had super, super faint lines at 16DPO. They didn't get slap-you-in-the-face dark until much later. But I also never had normal betas, so...take that how you will.
I'm out and about with one of my students(this day just keeps.getting worse btw), but I just read all the comments and wanted to say that I am feeling the love. You guys are the best. I will check back in later.
Post by wannabmama on Aug 30, 2016 10:39:09 GMT -5
LT for love doodler I hope you can do something as a treat for you at some point today. jlincoln I agree with Rama that it's probably a good idea to get blood test just in case. I'm sorry the line is faint, it's so frustrating. Fx for you Rama!
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
doodler all the hugs, I'm sorry you're having such a rough week, that is totally understandable. I hope you get time to curl up if you need to, or things to keep you busy if not.
ironbaby sorry about the lame-ness from your mom. Do you think you'll talk to her about it?
wannabmama glad you got to talk about it. I wish I could talk to one or two family members about this stuff, but the one person who has really been there has some other anxiety issues that mean I can't (won't) go there. I was MIA lately because of a trial, so I don't know that I got to say, I'm so sorry about your CP. Fingers crossed for the betas!
PirateCat I've always wanted to do a fall New England trip, I've heard it's gorgeous.
@rama yay for new CH! So many fingers crossed for this tww!
jlincoln Keep us posted on how you're doing - this is all such a mindf***!! Second asking for blood testing if you want some better answers than the hpts.
jlincoln, FWIW, I had faint lines at 16DPO that didn't darken until a few days later, and I had rising betas until after 19DPO. Of course, this resulted in a loss, but my RE was optimistic until the betas dropped. Big hugs, in any case, for the confusion.
irish14, I am sure I will talk to her at some point, but probably not too in depth. We don't do confrontation very well in my family.
Status (TTA, TTC, Benched): TTC after recently throwing in the towel on TTA
Diagnosis (if applicable): n/a after 2 mc
Updates/questions: when do you see temp drops after LP? CD1 or can it be after? The very beginning of my chart is pretty high. I think I either just O'd or will soon. My temps turned upward, but not up past the early high temps in my chart yet. Wondering if it can take a few days to drop after CD1, or if I just suck at temping consistently (also possible).
Debbie downer (a place to vent): not so much a vent, but we'd been figuring we'd TTA for another month or two. But I've been feeling a lot better, and hopeful again, and I'd already been cleared by OB, so this week DH and I said F this on waiting. We both felt ready, so it didn't make sense to us anymore to wait. It looks like this was all during fw, if I'm reading signs right, so now it's off to the crazy train for a few weeks. Fx. I've kept better track of signs this time than I usually do so we'll see if that helps or if it makes me even more crazy.
QOTW: What is your favorite fall activity? FOOTBALLLLLLLL!!! Esp college football. We're planning our big annual tailgate and I'm SO pumped.
irish14, my charts don't drop below coverline sometimes until CD6 or so. I do see temp drops, just not back to normal pre-O range until after the first week.
Can you link your chart? I am kinda confused by what situation you're describing.
irish14, my charts don't drop below coverline sometimes until CD6 or so. I do see temp drops, just not back to normal pre-O range until after the first week.
Can you link your chart? I am kinda confused by what situation you're describing.
Updates/questions: when do you see temp drops after LP? CD1 or can it be after? The very beginning of my chart is pretty high. I think I either just O'd or will soon. My temps turned upward, but not up past the early high temps in my chart yet. Wondering if it can take a few days to drop after CD1, or if I just suck at temping consistently (also possible).
Very possible. My temps often don't drop until several days into my cycle.
irish14, my charts don't drop below coverline sometimes until CD6 or so. I do see temp drops, just not back to normal pre-O range until after the first week.
Can you link your chart? I am kinda confused by what situation you're describing.
I've never tried to post a chart stalk before, bear with me. Hope this works.
irish14 , my charts don't drop below coverline sometimes until CD6 or so. I do see temp drops, just not back to normal pre-O range until after the first week.
Can you link your chart? I am kinda confused by what situation you're describing.
I've never tried to post a chart stalk before, bear with me. Hope this works.
Without knowing where your coverline typically is, I'd say your chart looks pretty normal. You could easily already have O'd, or you could see a dip back down again. Nothing here looks troubling, though.
I've never tried to post a chart stalk before, bear with me. Hope this works.
Without knowing where your coverline typically is, I'd say your chart looks pretty normal. You could easily already have O'd, or you could see a dip back down again. Nothing here looks troubling, though.
thanks I haven't temped much in the past so still learning how to read these. Probably need to give it a few days and see where it goes, I'm guessing.
Post by kayladawn91 on Aug 30, 2016 13:29:13 GMT -5
How are you doing? Varies from day to day
Status (TTA, TTC, Benched): TTC, Cycle 15, Month 18 AL - WTO
Diagnosis (if applicable): None, currently testing with OB
Updates/questions: I have my SHG tomorrow and I'm starting to get nervous. I don't know why. I think this will be the last thing my OB can do for me so my husband agreed that if everything looks good he'll schedule an SA. And then we may move on to an RE. I want answers but I'm also afraid of answers. I don't want to find out something is wrong but I also want an answer to why I can't get pregnant.
Debbie downer: Nothing else right now
QOTW: I love College Football Saturdays. And just being outside without sweating my butt off is nice.
kayladawn91, good luck with the SHG, and I hope everything comes back clear. Even if everything doesn't come back clear, your H should still pursue an SA.
Post by wannabmama on Aug 30, 2016 13:40:27 GMT -5
kayladawn91 good luck with the SHG! I agree with ironbaby (I feel like I always agree with her, she must be very wise) that you should have YH do an SA regardless if possible. It can help a lot to have that information! I also agree that information is a blessing and a curse, but I have tried to tell myself that not knowing what is going on doesn't actually change that it is, in fact, going on!
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
Post by kayladawn91 on Aug 30, 2016 15:22:42 GMT -5
ironbaby and wannabmama my OB recommended MH see a urologist to get an SA done months ago (3 months I think) and he's just been dragging his feet. I haven't really brought it up in a couple of months because I don't know WHY he's dragging his feet. When I first asked him he said he doesn't have a problem with having one done but I can imagine that maybe he's just nervous to find out there's something wrong so I don't want to push him if he's not ready. It's a delicate subject for me and I know I wouldn't want him pushing me if I wasn't ready. But obviously I would love for him to get an SA like yesterday. Lol
ironbaby and wannabmama my OB recommended MH see a urologist to get an SA done months ago (3 months I think) and he's just been dragging his feet. I haven't really brought it up in a couple of months because I don't know WHY he's dragging his feet. When I first asked him he said he doesn't have a problem with having one done but I can imagine that maybe he's just nervous to find out there's something wrong so I don't want to push him if he's not ready. It's a delicate subject for me and I know I wouldn't want him pushing me if I wasn't ready. But obviously I would love for him to get an SA like yesterday. Lol
I totally get that...it took MH at least three months to do his first one. And it did turn out to be not so great, so it was hard for him, but the good news is that most things that show up with SAs (not all, but most) do have some things you can do to (relatively quickly and painlessly) improve the counts, in some ways I think that makes it a little less daunting.
As a related side note, MH just found out he has to go get it done again b/c now it's a year old and my insurance requires it to be done annually to approve the IVF. He complained about going and my first thought was to throat punch him, but instead I reminded him that not only did I have to get all my blood tests re-done...all 6 vials of blood or whatever a couple months ago...I was also heading in for my third beta draw in a week, so he could probably find some time to do what he needs to do...
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
doodler, I am so sorry for your approaching due date and all of the difficult feelings that that brings. I hope you are able to take some time this week for yourself.
ironbaby, I am crossing my fingers for you- I hope that this IUI is it for you! I'm sorry you had a fight with your mom, that can be such a yucky feeling.
wannabmama, I hope that your beta results are what you need for insurance.
pinkcat, hugs to you as well for your approaching EDD. Be kind to yourself.
jlincoln, I am so sorry for the confusion and mindf*** you are dealing with right now.
irish14, hugs, I totally feel you on the difficulty of knowing when you are ready but good for you for taking that scary leap back in to ttc
kayladawn91, I'm sure it is so scary to think about answers and what those answers might mean for you-- I hope though, that you are able to get some answers that will bring you greater clarity and a plan for moving forward (if that is what you are looking for-- I don't want to assume)
Updates/questions: I am wondering if I need to start saying that I had a cp instead of a mc. I had to google chemical pregnancy last week after reading about it in this thread and that sounds like more of what happened for me (only 5 weeks pregnant). I just used mc because that is what my doctor's office said.
Debbie downer (a place to vent): I am really struggling with feelings of resentment towards my pregnant coworker (who, btw, is the "friend" who made the comment about God wanting me to drink). I want to be a loving, generous person who doesn't resent others' happiness-- but I am having a really hard time with that. When I see her, I just have this feeling of anger. Which really isn't fair-- she has every right to be pregnant and to enjoy this experience. I don't want to have this anger and I am disappointed in myself that I am having this reaction.
QOTW: What is your favorite fall activity? football, pumpkin patch, cider mill-- so many fun fall activities!
jayhawk84 A chemical pregnancy is just a very early miscarriage. You can call it a MC or a CP, whichever one you feel most comfortable with. *hug* As for your CW, I think that's pretty normal fare. I had a pretty hard time with seeing other people I work with that were pregnant after my loss, even though they'd never said anything to me (only the people in my direct wing really know, since I was out a bunch).
Post by wannabmama on Aug 30, 2016 19:25:21 GMT -5
jayhawk84 working with people who are pregnant is really tough. I struggle so much with the trying to be truly happy for others and dealing with my own sadness. This whole process really tries you. Hugs.
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
jayhawk84, wanted to second Rama—you should call it whatever you're comfortable with. Don't feel like you have to minimize it by not calling it a miscarriage (just mentioning this because I had a hard time with it at first). Also, you can be a wonderful person and still find it tough to be around pregnant people. Someone told me "just let yourself be human" and that's stuck with me. Hugs.
Post by kayladawn91 on Aug 31, 2016 6:32:09 GMT -5
jayhawk84 I understand all too well that struggle of wanting to be happy for other people and their pregnancies while being sad for yourself. It's difficult, but I've learned that it's also okay to feel whatever you need to feel and put up whatever walls you need to in order to protect yourself from further hurt. Also, my loss was "technically" called a blighted ovum and my OB constantly called it that. I struggled at first with whether I should be calling it a MC or not, but I came across a blog shortly after my loss that said something to the effect of "Whether you've had a chemical pregnancy, blighted ovum, or some other "scientific term" know that it's still a loss and it's devastating. No one's loss is minimal to someone else's because of what doctors call it." And then I decided that, as others here have said, I would call it whatever I needed to call it. Sending hugs your way this week, this whole thing just really sucks.
I am still struggling with the CP/MS thing as well. At 5w6d, it seems belittling to call it a CP, but if I say "miscarriage," people often assume a later term loss. For the very few people I have told, I tend to say it was a "miscarriage very early." And that's pretty much how I feel about it in my heart, too.
All to say, jayhawk84, do what you feel is right. No one here is judging your terminology.
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