I have no problem with the board existing. I'm just disagreeing with ITK's UO to explain that the word natural can hurt. And I rarely disagree with ITK - apparently its only over this and Friends.
I guess if it were up to me I would have given birth in a birth center and I would have tried to go unmedicated. I witnessed an unmedicated birth in nursing school, and it was amazing. However, my surgical history made it necessary for me to have a c-section. So that's what I had. So natural birth stings a little for me, but that's just me and I realize that the world doesn't need to cater to my feelings. Also, this girl came on my BMB and said that people who had c/s shouldn't be able to call it giving birth, because they just had "extractions." But I digress...
Sorry for any offense taken! The board name is the same from TB. It was for people hoping to have a low intervention birth many times meaning no pain meds. There were a variety of birth stories there. If you are interested, please join us.
Sorry for any offense taken! The board name is the same from TB. It was for people hoping to have a low intervention birth many times meaning no pain meds. There were a variety of birth stories there. If you are interested, please join us.
I didn't take offense. It was just a good opportunity for me to unload some baggage I have about the term.
Stringy, I 1000% agree with what Nana and Awful said.
I really liked the NB board over there. Lots of well-educated ladies and they were almost as accepting as this group. Almost. But I do agree that "Natural" is not good terminology. That used to get discussed ppretty often actually. Just like someone said (the one thing I don't like about this format, you can't scroll through prior posts while replying) technically having antibiotics for GBS+ or having Pitocin after birth to slow bleeding heck even getting a tear stitched up could technically be called not natural.
Post by ABobLoblawLawBomb on Jan 16, 2015 18:00:49 GMT -5
Here's the thing though, the antonym of natural is not 'unnatural,' it's 'nonnatural' (again, Mirriam-Webster).
'Unnatural' is a near antonym, and natural can be used as the antonym to certain meanings of unnatural, but they are not opposite meanings. Unnatural is a word that carries a lot of negative connotations and therefore has a lot more weight and resistance when applied to things that are important (like birth choices or parenting decisions), but it's not implied by calling something 'natural' that that which is not is therefore 'unnatural.'
I'm sorry, but I'm a very literal person, and I'm not backing down on this.
haha SAK. After my OB told me she would put my uterus and stuff on top of me to stitch it back up I insisted that I get to see it, but J wouldn't look or take a picture for me. I was pretty bummed. I did get to see him come out with a mirror though.
I don't care for the term natural birth either. I had a baby come out of my vagina. That is pretty natural to me. Regardless if I had meds or not. Why not just call it med free? No offense to OP, just my opinion on the descriptive.
Ok. People are getting defensive over an imagined offense, here.
Yeah. This. Just because it's natural birth...does not mean any other kind is the opposite. No one has ever referred to a csection as an "abnormal birth". But, it is not the norm
Ok. People are getting defensive over an imagined offense, here.
Yeah. This. Just because it's natural birth...does not mean any other kind is the opposite. No one has ever referred to a csection as an "abnormal birth". But, it is not the norm
Post by rrrrrachel on Jan 16, 2015 19:23:54 GMT -5
Some people so call any vaginal birth a natural birth and that's cool. If you want to call you c section natural birth because you did skin to skin afterwards or whatever that's cool. It's really about talking with like minded women who are well educated about birth and empowered to make decisions about it rather than being bullied. Sometimes that means getting a c section and sometimes it means giving birth in a field onto a bed of moss.
Post by rrrrrachel on Jan 16, 2015 19:29:02 GMT -5
Moss is naturally antibacterial.
I was just kidding because you quoted me and agreed with me and that made me feel good, but then you were all "I like what this other person said better, actually"
I don't know how sanitary bed moss would be, but it would make burying the placenta easier. Since it's already outside.
If you're already going the bed moss route,you might as well just tear into it with your teeth instead of burying it.
No, they are probably too good for that and opt for a lotus birth and carry the placenta around in a hand knitted purse until it falls off the baby naturally.
Some people so call any vaginal birth a natural birth and that's cool. If you want to call you c section natural birth because you did skin to skin afterwards or whatever that's cool. It's really about talking with like minded women who are well educated about birth and empowered to make decisions about it rather than being bullied. Sometimes that means getting a c section and sometimes it means giving birth in a field onto a bed of moss.
Except I've had people tell me 1. I do t know what it's like to have a baby and 2. I didn't have "real" births because I ended with c/s
Listen I don't care what you call it, I was just being snarky with my first response. But even though I was "like-minded" and attempted a med free birth 3 times, I'm still considered by many to have a lesser birth experience because mine ended in surgery.
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