UO/rants

[kleigh926]

What's your UO or rant?

My rant this morning is DS. He is up multiple times a night for no apparent reason (doesn't usually need to be fed, just awake), and then wakes up early for the day. So mama gets like, no sleep. Last night was particularly bad.

And the puking. OMG, the puking. If I never see more spit-up again it will be too soon. I hate reflux with a passion. I have all these Facebook friends who recently had babies and they're all like, "Oh my baby is growing up so fast! Time needs to slow down!" Of course none of their babies are wearing bibs constantly with burp cloths surrounding them. And I'm thinking, "No. I can't wait till this kid is walking and not throwing up 100 times a day."

[singingsea]

Not an UO, just a rant.

This morning...ugh. DS dumped his whole bowl of oatmeal all over himself (not sure if by accident or on purpose). So I had to wrestle him into clean PJs. We had a dusting of snow this morning meaning everyone was driving like they just had a frontal lobotomy. Then I got stuck at the train tracks fooooorever.

I just want to get to work on time for fucking once.

[singingsea]

kleigh926, Maybe nightmares/dreams? DS has been having nightmares lately.

[kleigh926]

Feb 12, 2015 9:41:22 GMT -5 singingsea said:

kleigh926, Maybe nightmares/dreams? DS has been having nightmares lately.

He's only 5 months old though... do babies that young have nightmares? I guess he could be dreaming. He's usually pleasant when he wakes up at first, but has no ability to put himself back to sleep yet. Sleep training is in our near future. 

[singingsea]

Feb 12, 2015 9:52:59 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

Feb 12, 2015 9:41:22 GMT -5 singingsea said:

kleigh926, Maybe nightmares/dreams? DS has been having nightmares lately.

He's only 5 months old though... do babies that young have nightmares? I guess he could be dreaming. He's usually pleasant when he wakes up at first, but has no ability to put himself back to sleep yet. Sleep training is in our near future. 

Sorry I misread. I thought you meant your DD was up a lot during the night.

At five months it's possible his circadian rhythm still might not be set up. Do you keep the house really bright during the day and dark at night?

[kleigh926]

Feb 12, 2015 9:58:30 GMT -5 singingsea said:

Feb 12, 2015 9:52:59 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

He's only 5 months old though... do babies that young have nightmares? I guess he could be dreaming. He's usually pleasant when he wakes up at first, but has no ability to put himself back to sleep yet. Sleep training is in our near future. 

Sorry I misread. I thought you meant your DD was up a lot during the night.

At five months it's possible his circadian rhythm still might not be set up. Do you keep the house really bright during the day and dark at night?

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Yes, I think for the most part we do. I just think he's not good at putting himself back to sleep. He's pretty reliant on the pacifier, which is mostly my fault (and DD pushing it back into his mouth even when he doesn't really need it). 

[dc2london]

I don't understand why every single holiday or event needs to revolve around food--specifically junk food. Why do kids need to bring candy and cupcakes to school for valentine's day? Why can't they just make cards for their classmates and pass those out? Why does every single occasion have to be celebrated with a side of diabetes?

[singingsea]

Feb 12, 2015 10:06:21 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

Feb 12, 2015 9:58:30 GMT -5 singingsea said:

Sorry I misread. I thought you meant your DD was up a lot during the night.

At five months it's possible his circadian rhythm still might not be set up. Do you keep the house really bright during the day and dark at night?

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Yes, I think for the most part we do. I just think he's not good at putting himself back to sleep. He's pretty reliant on the pacifier, which is mostly my fault (and DD pushing it back into his mouth even when he doesn't really need it). 

I'm trying to remember when I started doing "some" sleep training. I think it was around 6 months. How much is he sleeping during the day?

[laketide]

Feb 12, 2015 10:11:42 GMT -5 dc2london said:

I don't understand why every single holiday or event needs to revolve around food--specifically junk food. Why do kids need to bring candy and cupcakes to school for valentine's day? Why can't they just make cards for their classmates and pass those out? Why does every single occasion have to be celebrated with a side of diabetes?

100% agree!!!

[photomama1990]

Feb 12, 2015 10:13:46 GMT -5 laketide said:

Feb 12, 2015 10:11:42 GMT -5 dc2london said:

I don't understand why every single holiday or event needs to revolve around food--specifically junk food. Why do kids need to bring candy and cupcakes to school for valentine's day? Why can't they just make cards for their classmates and pass those out? Why does every single occasion have to be celebrated with a side of diabetes?

100% agree!!!

We went to a v-day party yesterday for children 0-school age. So there was a large age group, but the people were handing out lollipops and candy and everything else. I made little fish bowl things with gold fish. I thought that was a little better/age appropriate for the group we were dealing with. Not gonna lie, I'm excited to eat the little treats DS got, but he's certainly not having them.

[laketide]

Mine is more of a rant but here goes : I have jury duty...until the end of June. I have to call in every two weeks to see if I have to report. This keeps me in a constant worried state of - I can't forget to call then makes me panic about planning things because what if that is the week I have to go in and cancel everything? I hate not having a plan - and to know it will be like this until July 1 is driving me insane.

[photomama1990]

My rant is that DH has a man cold that he's had for over a week now. He did get some antibiotics yesterday, so hopefully he will be on the downhill now. But that means I have been the sole parent basically for the last week. I am 27.5 weeks pregnant and exhausted. To top it off E has a terrible cough, which we determined at his 2 year WCC is just a cough, his chest was clear. Which is good. But I feel so bad for my little guy that I can't do anything for him. So I was awake from 10-230 listening to him cough, slept from 230-430 when he came in our bed and coughed on me until we got up for the day. I have 3 extra kids today; DS is the oldest at 2. I told DH that I am the one who gets to take benedryl and sleep tonight. He can deal one night without NyQuil and be coherent enough to get DS. Whew. End rant.

[sagen]

My kids got a crap ton of candy from their Valentines day party, going to be honest I don't really care. I had them pick out a few, put the rest up. It is kind of like Halloween, just junk crap, but as a kid it seems so awesome so I think it is fine. Just feed them pretty well most of the time, and make sure they are outside and active, and I think a junk food holiday is NBD. Also I take some of their yummy treats for myself, so ya know... 

[brachysira]

My DS is 5 months, and he is up multiple times/night every single night. He eats, or he's not hungry but just wants to be held. He only naps 20 minutes. A good night is when he's only up 5 x. He wakes at first dawn, and that's not ideal because no one else is up until at least 8:30, except me because of him. We seriously need sleep training or something because he has to learn to get past the 20 minute cycle thing and also he must learn to put himself to sleep when he wakes up. He's just a bit young for anything very aggressive and we're honestly too tired to do much anyway. We are just trying to deal and watching a lot of TV. He is obviously tired, but on the plus side, he's really strong from all the time awake.

[kleigh926]

Feb 12, 2015 10:12:17 GMT -5 singingsea said:

Feb 12, 2015 10:06:21 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

I'm trying to remember when I started doing "some" sleep training. I think it was around 6 months. How much is he sleeping during the day?

He generally sleeps pretty well during the day. Always at least 2 naps, sometimes 3 (but the 3rd one is not usually very long- 20 minutes to an hour at most, and we have to replace the paci one or two times to get to an hour). The other two naps range from 45 minutes on the short side to 3 hours on the long side. And at night he will usually give us from about 8:00-3 or 4 without waking up, although the last two nights that has not been the case.

He's almost 5 months old so I feel like he's reaching the point where sleep training may be beneficial. I'm going to take the next few nights to establish a more consistent bedtime routine before laying him down awake. Honestly, it only takes him about 5 minutes of rocking to go to sleep, and he stays asleep initially, so I don't mind that at all. It's just the waking at night that I want to stop, and I don't know how to solve that without also laying him down awake at bedtime because I think his problem is that he doesn't know how to put himself back to sleep on his own once he's awake.

[wolfpack]

My coworkers last day is tomorrow. I totally get why she's leaving and should be happy for her, but no I'm pissed and sad.

[ally2011]

Feb 12, 2015 11:38:53 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

Feb 12, 2015 10:12:17 GMT -5 singingsea said:

I'm trying to remember when I started doing "some" sleep training. I think it was around 6 months. How much is he sleeping during the day?

He generally sleeps pretty well during the day. Always at least 2 naps, sometimes 3 (but the 3rd one is not usually very long- 20 minutes to an hour at most, and we have to replace the paci one or two times to get to an hour). The other two naps range from 45 minutes on the short side to 3 hours on the long side. And at night he will usually give us from about 8:00-3 or 4 without waking up, although the last two nights that has not been the case.

He's almost 5 months old so I feel like he's reaching the point where sleep training may be beneficial. I'm going to take the next few nights to establish a more consistent bedtime routine before laying him down awake. Honestly, it only takes him about 5 minutes of rocking to go to sleep, and he stays asleep initially, so I don't mind that at all. It's just the waking at night that I want to stop, and I don't know how to solve that without also laying him down awake at bedtime because I think his problem is that he doesn't know how to put himself back to sleep on his own once he's awake.

That seems like a decent long stretch for that age, although I know the timing is not ideal. Could you try to push his bedtime a little later and then you also go to bed earlier to get a longer stretch yourself? I am sorry.....it will get better....eventually

[aydee]

Feb 12, 2015 7:33:00 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

And the puking. OMG, the puking. If I never see more spit-up again it will be too soon. I hate reflux with a passion. I have all these Facebook friends who recently had babies and they're all like, "Oh my baby is growing up so fast! Time needs to slow down!" Of course none of their babies are wearing bibs constantly with burp cloths surrounding them. And I'm thinking, "No. I can't wait till this kid is walking and not throwing up 100 times a day."

I feel your pain. DS had terrible reflux. We used to go through more than a dozen bibs and burp cloths a day. I was puked on daily until he turned about a year old. Our pedi said we just had to wait for him to outgrow it. Like you, I couldn't wait until he got older and was no longer puking constantly. The good news is, it does happen! Hang in there.

[crimsonandclover]

Feb 12, 2015 11:10:44 GMT -5 brachysira said:

My DS is 5 months, and he is up multiple times/night every single night. He eats, or he's not hungry but just wants to be held. He only naps 20 minutes. A good night is when he's only up 5 x. He wakes at first dawn, and that's not ideal because no one else is up until at least 8:30, except me because of him. We seriously need sleep training or something because he has to learn to get past the 20 minute cycle thing and also he must learn to put himself to sleep when he wakes up. He's just a bit young for anything very aggressive and we're honestly too tired to do much anyway. We are just trying to deal and watching a lot of TV. He is obviously tired, but on the plus side, he's really strong from all the time awake.

I totally feel you. DD2 woke up 6+ times / night from 4 months to 9 months, when she pretty miraculously started waking up only 1x / night (shutting our bedroom door and being so exhausted that we probably slept through a bit of crying *might* have contributed). It was awful. And I absolutely understand the twistsed logic of being too tired to do sleep training. The 45 min stretches of sleep are so precious and necessary and your battery is so low that you just cannot handle even a couple nights of even less sleep. It will get better. It will.

[colinsfebmommy]

I am so sad for kids now a days. My sister just called and said at my nephews school, which is only middle school, there are kids in 7th and 8th grade doing drugs and I am not just taking pot, they are doing cocaine and heroin and sending naked texts...middle school!?!!?! I mean we live in a very good good community and I feel blindsided that children that young have any type of access to that and that it is even in our town. WTF That makes me panic and mine is only JUST going to be 2. I had such a great childhood....how can someone who is only 12 be exposed to that. I am just really bummed out. Oh and on a random note, I just found out that schools have now take cursive out of the curriculum....they feel it isn't needed anymore? SERIOUSLY?

[dc2london]

Feb 12, 2015 10:20:29 GMT -5 laketide said:

Mine is more of a rant but here goes : I have jury duty...until the end of June. I have to call in every two weeks to see if I have to report. This keeps me in a constant worried state of - I can't forget to call then makes me panic about planning things because what if that is the week I have to go in and cancel everything? I hate not having a plan - and to know it will be like this until July 1 is driving me insane.

Oh that's just nuts.  How obnoxious.  Do they think nobody in your county has a life?  Or, like, a job?

[dc2london]

Feb 12, 2015 10:49:43 GMT -5 sagen said:

My kids got a crap ton of candy from their Valentines day party, going to be honest I don't really care. I had them pick out a few, put the rest up. It is kind of like Halloween, just junk crap, but as a kid it seems so awesome so I think it is fine. Just feed them pretty well most of the time, and make sure they are outside and active, and I think a junk food holiday is NBD. Also I take some of their yummy treats for myself, so ya know... 

And it is true that kids love candy and that, in their eyes, candy makes things special.  But every. single. food related activity is a struggle for my family.  Fortunately, DS1's teacher is REALLY good about letting me know in advance when food will be involved in an activity or celebration so I can send a Jack-safe alternative treat.  But still.  ENOUGH ALREADY

[kleigh926]

ally2011, I know it's a good stretch of time, but the thing is, he's waking up for no reason. He doesn't need fed. He usually goes back to sleep when we give him the paci. That's why I think he just has trouble putting himself to sleep. If he needed fed at 3 or 4 every morning then fine, but he routinely only seems to need a bottle somewhere between 5:30-7:30 a.m. I just don't get the random waking. And today has been bad, even naps. It's just very clear that he has become too reliant on being held and a paci to go to sleep.

[sagen]

I understand, that would be hard. My friend's sons have food allergies, she keeps snack buckets at each class for when someone brings cupcakes for birthdays and such. She has fruit roll ups, rice crispy treats (not home made so they don't go stale) and things like that so they don't feel left out. Then people will spring things on her like at scouts they will make pizza so she has to run to the store and make a gluten free pizza just for her kids not to feel left out. From your point of view I think I would feel 100% the same.

[ally2011]

I am probably no help, I just don't see kids sleeping straight through the night for 10-12 hours at that age with no outside soothing. I know it is draining and stressful sometimes, but for babies the need to be held or cuddled is as real as the need for food. If you can find a way to get a 6-7 hour stretch at the same time and then maybe sleep with him after first wake up, maybe that would help. We did that a lot to get through during those times. I need my sleep. Maybe magic babies do exist....we did have one foster that would sleep from 8:30 until 6:30 at 6 months which blew my mind. Our dd still uses a paci at 2 to go to sleep....I don't know if I would be in a rush to remove that as it is a way for them to be soothed. Eventually he will have better control to keep it in or get it himself.

[sagen]

Feb 12, 2015 13:27:17 GMT -5 colinsfebmommy said:

I am so sad for kids now a days. My sister just called and said at my nephews school, which is only middle school, there are kids in 7th and 8th grade doing drugs and I am not just taking pot, they are doing cocaine and heroin and sending naked texts...middle school!?!!?! I mean we live in a very good good community and I feel blindsided that children that young have any type of access to that and that it is even in our town. WTF That makes me panic and mine is only JUST going to be 2. I had such a great childhood....how can someone who is only 12 be exposed to that. I am just really bummed out. Oh and on a random note, I just found out that schools have now take cursive out of the curriculum....they feel it isn't needed anymore? SERIOUSLY?

My daughter starts middle school next year, I am freaked out

[kleigh926]

Feb 12, 2015 14:13:24 GMT -5 ally2011 said:

I am probably no help, I just don't see kids sleeping straight through the night for 10-12 hours at that age with no outside soothing. I know it is draining and stressful sometimes, but for babies the need to be held or cuddled is as real as the need for food. If you can find a way to get a 6-7 hour stretch at the same time and then maybe sleep with him after first wake up, maybe that would help. We did that a lot to get through during those times. I need my sleep. Maybe magic babies do exist....we did have one foster that would sleep from 8:30 until 6:30 at 6 months which blew my mind. Our dd still uses a paci at 2 to go to sleep....I don't know if I would be in a rush to remove that as it is a way for them to be soothed. Eventually he will have better control to keep it in or get it himself.

DD was a great sleeper, I know she spoiled us, but she was one of those kids who slept 11-12 hours pretty early, and she's still an awesome sleeper. Sleeping with him doesn't help, he gets so hot and seems uncomfortable being in bed with us, and neither of us sleep that way. My DD also still needs a paci to go to sleep, but I don't remember her having this much trouble with frequent waking at night. I really think at this point that the only way to help us both get more consistent sleep is by sleep training. It's not good for him either to be waking up this much. He literally has not slept more than a half hour straight all day today because he's too reliant on a paci and/or being held to fall asleep. 

No offense, but I wasn't really asking for advice on what to do Just venting because last night seriously sucked. 

[colinsfebmommy]

Feb 12, 2015 14:15:50 GMT -5 sagen said:

Feb 12, 2015 13:27:17 GMT -5 colinsfebmommy said:

I am so sad for kids now a days. My sister just called and said at my nephews school, which is only middle school, there are kids in 7th and 8th grade doing drugs and I am not just taking pot, they are doing cocaine and heroin and sending naked texts...middle school!?!!?! I mean we live in a very good good community and I feel blindsided that children that young have any type of access to that and that it is even in our town. WTF That makes me panic and mine is only JUST going to be 2. I had such a great childhood....how can someone who is only 12 be exposed to that. I am just really bummed out. Oh and on a random note, I just found out that schools have now take cursive out of the curriculum....they feel it isn't needed anymore? SERIOUSLY?

My daughter starts middle school next year, I am freaked out

*stuck* in a box* All I can say is she learned all that from a moms board in the community so when your daughter starts, I recommend looking into that because the more you can learn from other moms I guess. So frickin. sad. 

[kleigh926]

Feb 12, 2015 15:01:20 GMT -5 @sterling said:

Feb 12, 2015 13:57:07 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

ally2011, I know it's a good stretch of time, but the thing is, he's waking up for no reason. He doesn't need fed. He usually goes back to sleep when we give him the paci. That's why I think he just has trouble putting himself to sleep. If he needed fed at 3 or 4 every morning then fine, but he routinely only seems to need a bottle somewhere between 5:30-7:30 a.m. I just don't get the random waking. And today has been bad, even naps. It's just very clear that he has become too reliant on being held and a paci to go to sleep.

Lol, the reason is he's 5 months old.

So no one seriously thinks that he has become too dependent on certain things that we've been doing pretty much since birth to fall asleep, causing frequent wake-ups when those things aren't there? Okay then. 

[kleigh926]

Feb 12, 2015 15:21:38 GMT -5 @sterling said:

Feb 12, 2015 15:03:52 GMT -5 kleigh926 said:

So no one seriously thinks that he has become too dependent on certain things that we've been doing pretty much since birth to fall asleep, causing frequent wake-ups when those things aren't there? Okay then. 

I mean, some kids suck at sleeping. My son didn't STTN until he was 15 months old. I honestly don't think it was a result of anything we did or didn't do.

That's fair. And that could be the case with him too. I still want to give sleep training a shot sometime soon though. If it works, awesome. If it doesn't, I guess I better get used to being sleep deprived for a long time yet.