TWW 10/31 - 11/6

[ironbaby]

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GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.)

[ironbaby]

Where is everyone??

Cycle/Month: 17/19

CD/DPO: 23/9

Timing: -3, -2, IUI, +1

Testing Plans: whenever I break down this week

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: please work?

GTKY: I binged a bunch of my shows last night, but we have 150+ episodes of Good Eats recorded. You never know when you will need to cobble together some strange cooking device for some strange meal.

[daisy818]

Cycle/Month: 24

CD/DPO: 21/?

Timing: ?

Testing Plans: Only if I make it to CD33

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: On my vague break cycle, so no clue what my body is up to. In the meantime, I'm doing lots of research into alternatives to jumping right to IVF. I think I've got some needles in my future, if only for loads of bloodwork.

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.) We record new episodes of a few shows, like SVU, NCIS, Big Bang Theory, and Modern Family. We are super boring with our tv.

[ironbaby]

daisy818, share your research please! IVF will be in December for us if nothing happens first.

[gwendarling]

Cycle/Month: 2/2

CD/DPO: CD14, waiting to confirm O

Timing: CD12, CD13, maybe one more session tonight?

Testing Plans: 11/11, estimating 11dpo

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: with ILs in town, already tired and feel like squeezing in one more dtd is going to feel more like work :/

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.)
Mr robot and walking dead.

[Deleted]

Cycle/Month: 2, TFAS and still breastfeeding

CD/DPO: CD27/3DPO

Timing: Not sure exactly, but we have been having sex every other day or so

Testing Plans: Hoping to make it to 12 DPO

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: First real attempt at temping this month and my temps are all over the place. Spike this morning led FF to say 3 DPO, but it was unsure until then. Still not really sure when I O'd. This only my 2nd postpartum cycle, so I'm still finding my new normal after having my son 11 months ago

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.) - West World and The Good Wife

[daisy818]

Oct 31, 2016 12:43:58 GMT -5 ironbaby said:

daisy818 , share your research please! IVF will be in December for us if nothing happens first.

Be advised, my knowledge on this comes almost entirely from Dr. Google after getting some basic info from the ladies on 3T/IF. I'm wanting to investigate whether I have any immunological factors that may be causing implantation failure. It appears there is a school of thought that much endo-related IF is not related to egg quality or other traditional IF causes as much as an immune reaction of the body that creates a hostile implantation environment.  Most people start looking into this issue after multiple failed IVFs or RPL (regardless of endo diagnosis), but for people with endo they say that after two years without a single positive pregnancy test (and otherwise unexplained IF) that immune issues are a strong possibility for what's going wrong.  Now, even in that situation (and esp. for AMA ladies like me) they generally still recommend going straight to IVF in conjunction with immune therapy, but there do seem to be cases where they add immune therapy to natural or IUI cycles. I sort of would like to jump on this now given my risk factors rather than wait till I've dropped $20k on multiple failed IVF transfers (esp. since we're probably a year from IVF anyway for financial reasons).

It looks like testing, on a basic level, is a bunch of bloodwork - for someone pre-IVF like me, they recommend testing Antinuclear Antibodies (ANA), Antiphospholipid Antibodies (APA), Antithyroid Antibodies (ATA), Immunophenotype (IP), and Natural Killer Activation Assay (NKA) and/or Natural Killer Assay +IVIg.

If it looks like immune issues may be the problem, the general regimen includes adding prednisone, Lovenox/heparin, and sometimes baby aspirin during your cycle (apparently 5 days before ovulation is what is recommended on a natural or IUI cycle - it differs for IVF cycles).  This helps to suppress the immune reaction and increase blood flow to the uterine lining.  I think I'd probably give prednisone + baby aspirin alone a go first before Lovenox, but that's just because those injections apparently kind of suck and needles scare me.

Dr. Geoffrey Sher seems to be a leading proponent of immune-therapy for IF, but if you look for reproductive immunologists online there are several websites that discuss the theory, the testing regimen, and the therapy options.

[ironbaby]

@frantheman, you can link your chart if you'd like us to take a look, but FF never gives crosshairs until 3DPO when you're temping. It needs those 3 days of trending higher temps to confirm O. That's why temping is useful for confirming O, but not for predicting when it is approaching.

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ironbaby , I have never posted a chart before so here is my first attempt! Thanks for the FYI regarding FF and ovulation dates. Link to Chart

[Rama]

Oct 31, 2016 14:16:35 GMT -5 @frantheman said:

ironbaby , I have never posted a chart before so here is my first attempt! Thanks for the FYI regarding FF and ovulation dates. Link to Chart

You did it!

I'd say that your temps have a good chance of indicating ovulation. Maybe not 3DPO necessarily, but probably at least O. Keep in mind that FF may change its mind with more info, so don't be surprised if your CH move. :)

[obscurereference]

Cycle/Month: 4/4

CD/DPO: 16/1

Timing: -2, -1, 0

Testing Plans: CD27 or later.

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: I'm not temping but I'm pretty sure I O'd yesterday morning. I had a positive OPK the day before and some pretty painful O cramps that actually woke me up. Fun.

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.) I finished Good Wife not too long ago and am now re-watching Grey's. I'm not a huge TV watcher.

[ironbaby]

Oct 31, 2016 14:22:27 GMT -5 Rama said:

Oct 31, 2016 14:16:35 GMT -5 @frantheman said:

ironbaby , I have never posted a chart before so here is my first attempt! Thanks for the FYI regarding FF and ovulation dates. Link to Chart

You did it!

I'd say that your temps have a good chance of indicating ovulation. Maybe not 3DPO necessarily, but probably at least O. Keep in mind that FF may change its mind with more info, so don't be surprised if your CH move.

@frantheman, I agree with Rama. I think if you continue charting (which you should), you will probably see your crosshairs move.

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ironbaby, Rama, Awesome! Thanks so much

[Deleted]

Cycle/Month: 15/7

CD/DPO: 46/14

Timing: meh

Testing Plans: neg on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, and a temp drop this morning.

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: I finally had a cycle under 50 days for the first time in almost a year!

Also, I'm going to go for some acupuncture on Friday to see if there is anything they can do for my pcos. Does anyone have experiences that they can share?

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.)
I can't wait for the crown to start on Friday on netflix.

[gabride2010]

Cycle/Month: 6/10

CD/DPO: 51/8

Timing: -4, -3, and -2

Testing Plans: possibly not at all this cycle

Rants/Raves/ Chart Stalks: I started spotting today...I've never started spotting this early before. I will probably get my period early...grr!

GTKY: Tell us something that's in your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.)

H and I are totally into The League on Netflix. I'm not into fantasy football, but good grief that show is hilarious!

[Deleted]

Cycle/Month: 1/1

CD/DPO: 8DPO

Timing: -1

Testing Plans: November 4 or 5

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: Why am I so damn nauseous (and threw up once this morning)!?!?!?! I think I got the flu (despite getting a flu shot two weeks ago), otherwise I don't know what is wrong with me. It comes and goes, and I am losing my mind.

In other news, I slept through the night last night (but woke up 1 hour early)! That is huge for me because for the past two weeks I have been waking up at 2am and 3am for no reason, and couldn't fall asleep. So hoping that my restful nights of sleep will continue.

ETA: I jinxed myself, dang it. I woke up at 2:00am today, why?!?!? I just want to sleep through the night like normal people!

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.)
--90 Day Fiance
--Law and Order SVU
--Hells Kitchen

[ironbaby]

@sparky85, I am sorry for the BFN. I have been doing acupuncture a couple months now. I can't speak to it helping with PCOS, and obvs I am not pregnant yet, but it has really helped me feel at ease and optimistic. For that reason alone, I say go for it!

[addymac]

Cycle/Month: 2 since AL / month 2 I guess?

CD/DPO: 35/13

Timing: -1/0/1

Testing Plans: 2 BFNSs on 9dpo, 11dpo

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: pre-loss, I would get cd1 12-13dpo and these last 2 cycles have been just off. This cycle has been extra odd- I spotted for four days cd14-17 with negative opks, then didn't get a positive until cd22, when usually I get a positive by cd17/18, and I'm 13dpo and have no signs of cd1 coming but two bfn. Idk wtf is going on but I'm frustrated. I know my body post-loss can be different, but da,n. Adds insult to injury.

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.).
The Strain from FX and This is Us, on DVR. Still need to finish this last season of OITNB on Netflix. Damn life for getting in the way

[addymac]

Nov 1, 2016 10:07:35 GMT -5 @pineappleoranges said:

Nov 1, 2016 9:26:12 GMT -5 addymac said:

Cycle/Month: 2 since AL / month 2 I guess?

CD/DPO: 35/13

Timing: -1/0/1

Testing Plans: 2 BFNSs on 9dpo, 11dpo

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: pre-loss, I would get cd1 12-13dpo and these last 2 cycles have been just off. This cycle has been extra odd- I spotted for four days cd14-17 with negative opks, then didn't get a positive until cd22, when usually I get a positive by cd17/18, and I'm 13dpo and have no signs of cd1 coming but two bfn. Idk wtf is going on but I'm frustrated. I know my body post-loss can be different, but da,n. Adds insult to injury.

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.).
The Strain from FX and This is Us, on DVR. Still need to finish this last season of OITNB on Netflix. Damn life for getting in the way

Maybe temping will make some of the strew go away.

I work night shift 4 nights a week, so my sleep is so out of whack, with waking up constantly during the day and rotating back and forth. I don't think i would get accurate temps, from what I've read about how temping works. I think that would help, so I wish, but I don't see the point, tbh. 

[Rama]

Nov 1, 2016 10:40:21 GMT -5 addymac said:

Nov 1, 2016 10:07:35 GMT -5 @pineappleoranges said:

Maybe temping will make some of the strew go away.

I work night shift 4 nights a week, so my sleep is so out of whack, with waking up constantly during the day and rotating back and forth. I don't think i would get accurate temps, from what I've read about how temping works. I think that would help, so I wish, but I don't see the point, tbh. 

You might be surprised. We have a bunch of people doing swing shift that temp.

You gotta sleep sometime. If you want to give it a go, just temp after you wake up from your longest sleep of the day. The worst that could happen is nothing, and best case scenario, you have more info.

[gabride2010]

CD 1 for me I had a 9 day LP this time...screw you body!

FX for BFPs for everyone!

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Nov 1, 2016 10:15:51 GMT -5 @pineappleoranges said:

Oct 31, 2016 18:08:44 GMT -5 @sugabee22 said:

Cycle/Month: 1/1

CD/DPO: 8DPO

Timing: -1

Testing Plans: November 4 or 5

Rants/Raves/Chart Stalks: Why am I so damn nauseous (and threw up once this morning)!?!?!?! I think I got the flu (despite getting a flu shot two weeks ago), otherwise I don't know what is wrong with me. It comes and goes, and I am losing my mind.

In other news, I slept through the night last night (but woke up 1 hour early)! That is huge for me because for the past two weeks I have been waking up at 2am and 3am for no reason, and couldn't fall asleep. So hoping that my restful nights of sleep will continue.

ETA: I jinxed myself, dang it. I woke up at 2:00am today, why?!?!? I just want to sleep through the night like normal people!

GTKY:Tell us something that's on your DVR right now (or Netflix queue, etc.)
--90 Day Fiance
--Law and Order SVU
--Hells Kitchen

Try unisom.

I will have to look into unisom. I use melatonin, but it only helps me fall asleep, not stay asleep.


Ugh I broke down and tested today at 10dpo. It was a bfn. I know it's early, but still a bit disappointing. I only used a cheap wondfo, so hoping that maybe there is still a chance of a positive this cycle. We will see...

[obscurereference]

Sorry for CD1 gabride2010.

[obscurereference]

Sorry for the BFN @sugabee22. I hope it was just too early.

[gabride2010]

Thanks obscurereference!

Sorry for the BFN @sugabee22!

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gabride2010, obscurereference, Thanks for the support.

I may actually be 9DPO, but can't be certain. I got my first positive OPK on 10/23, so not sure when I actually ovulated (if I did). So it feels like an uncertain guessing game. But, I will continue to keep testing until AF shows up.

It's super frustrating too because I have been nauseous for the past three days, but don't know why. I think one reason could be that I came off Mirena IUD about 2 1/2 weeks ago, so this could be the "crash" I have read about in terms of hormones and feeling crappy. But who knows.

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@pineappleoranges: I don't think I am pregnant, that's why I said I think it's the mirena crash. I can't temp because I haven't had a period yet and do not know when my cycle started. I have read you can show early symptoms of pregnancy before a positive test, though it's rare, it's possible. But I don't think that is the case, I think it's the hormone imbalance.

[gabride2010]

@sugabee22 I hadn't had a "period" in about 1 year when I stopped BCP (I had to put one in for FF, so I picked the day I stopped the pills). I started temping right away, and I didn't see ovulation for 60 days. I called and got Provera to make me have a period. You can still temp without having had a period.

[daisy818]

Nov 2, 2016 18:33:03 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

@sugabee22 I hadn't had a "period" in about 1 year when I stopped BCP (I had to put one in for FF, so I picked the day I stopped the pills). I started temping right away, and I didn't see ovulation for 60 days. I called and got Provera to make me have a period. You can still temp without having had a period.

@sugabee22, I was in the same boat as gabride2010, except I'd been on the pill continuously for 15 years, so I hadn't had a period since I was a teenager.  I took it as functionally not having cycles, so I treated Day 1 off the pill as CD1.  Temped starting that day and was able to pinpoint O easily that first cycle.  If I were you I would probably go ahead and start temping now - might be too late this cycle (although you never know - first cycles off BC can be wonky), but it can get you in the habit.

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Nov 2, 2016 19:16:41 GMT -5 daisy818 said:

Nov 2, 2016 18:33:03 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

@sugabee22 I hadn't had a "period" in about 1 year when I stopped BCP (I had to put one in for FF, so I picked the day I stopped the pills). I started temping right away, and I didn't see ovulation for 60 days. I called and got Provera to make me have a period. You can still temp without having had a period.

@sugabee22 , I was in the same boat as gabride2010 , except I'd been on the pill continuously for 15 years, so I hadn't had a period since I was a teenager.  I took it as functionally not having cycles, so I treated Day 1 off the pill as CD1.  Temped starting that day and was able to pinpoint O easily that first cycle.  If I were you I would probably go ahead and start temping now - might be too late this cycle (although you never know - first cycles off BC can be wonky), but it can get you in the habit.

Thanks for the insights. I think it was too late this cycle, but I think AF is due on Monday or Tuesday, so I plan to start temping at that time.

I tested on 10 and 11 DPO and got BFNs. I have decided to stop testing unless AF doesn't show on time. But today, I started to get the dull aching pains that are pretty indicative of AF...so it looks like we will be on to cycle 2 and back at it around November 19.