UOs - who's got them?

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Dec 9, 2016 12:03:58 GMT -5 sstwinklinglites said:

Dec 9, 2016 11:55:04 GMT -5 @whimsy said:

J's cousin started preschool (4yr) this year and the homework she brings home is crazy. The amount of it is intense and what she has to do seems like stuff I did in the 4th grade. They are doing multiplication and all that. Her Dad and Grandma can't even help her all that much. She doesn't even go to a private or gifted school, it's just regular old preschool. This is why I want J to start next year in hopes to prepare him, but DH is against it because it's so intense here.

Multiplication at 4 yo seems like overkill. It's like they're setting them up to fail instead of succeed, plus, develop a hate of school and learning.

This is my biggest fear. I started hating and having a hard time in school in the 6th grade. It never got better for me. However, DH loved school. So maybe there's a chance J will be like him.

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Dec 9, 2016 12:06:54 GMT -5 emmagk said:

Dec 9, 2016 11:55:04 GMT -5 @whimsy said:

J's cousin started preschool (4yr) this year and the homework she brings home is crazy. The amount of it is intense and what she has to do seems like stuff I did in the 4th grade. They are doing multiplication and all that. Her Dad and Grandma can't even help her all that much. She doesn't even go to a private or gifted school, it's just regular old preschool. This is why I want J to start next year in hopes to prepare him, but DH is against it because it's so intense here.

have you looked into a daycare preschool program? Most daycares here offer morning only preschool and those kids are with the regular daycare class. It is probably less intense than an individual preschool.  

The real reason DH is against it is because he's too damn cheap to pay for it. 4 yr old preschool is free here. It angers me so much cause he's so cheap when it comes to me and J but will spend thousands on vintage cars and tools. Yet, he was telling me how we should do Montessori and start soon, but when I look into it and make apts. He's all "How are we gonna pay for it?" Gee, maybe mention this when you're pressuring me into figuring this out, now!

[athn64]

Dec 9, 2016 11:55:04 GMT -5 @whimsy said:

J's cousin started preschool (4yr) this year and the homework she brings home is crazy. The amount of it is intense and what she has to do seems like stuff I did in the 4th grade. They are doing multiplication and all that. Her Dad and Grandma can't even help her all that much. She doesn't even go to a private or gifted school, it's just regular old preschool. This is why I want J to start next year in hopes to prepare him, but DH is against it because it's so intense here.

My mom is a preK teacher and they don't give the students any homework here. Cannot imagine my 4 year old sitting for homework.

[bliz1712]

DD1 gets homework from preschool, but it's more just activities for us to do at home and no pressure to do it. It's cutting, coloring, recognizing numbers and letters. We've forgotten a few times and it's been NBD.

[springbeduk]

I think if you have a child with a summer or early fall birthday it is good to have in the back of your mind the possibility that it might be better for them to start K a year later and the possibility of needing to pay daycare another year to make that possible, (since that may take some planning) especially if it's the older child of 2 siblings since often they seem a bit younger while the younger sibling acts older . But to decide when the kid is a baby - no way!!! Some kids do great being at the young end of their class and are totally ready to start K when just turned or not quite 5 and some don't and you really can't tell until the child is much closer to the starting age.

Delaying school start just so the kid will be bigger for sports even if they are otherwise ready is assinine.

[britab]

Sadly the government is pushing us toward more and more "rigor" at a young age. Kinders don't need to be reading and some won't be ready no matter how hard you push. They aren't all ready at 5. Poverty is why we don't measure up internationally. 1 out of 4 America children live in poverty.

The frustrating thing is research says the opposite of what we're forced to do in schools. Young children need lots of play and movement to learn. Homework doesn't increase learning! Give more recess, instead of less.

Helicopter parenting doesn't help either. A lot of kids can't zip coats, put on shoes, go to the bathroom independently, share, open doors, etc. even when they're 5 or 6.

[springbeduk]

Dec 10, 2016 20:59:09 GMT -5 britab said:

Sadly the government is pushing us toward more and more "rigor" at a young age. Kinders don't need to be reading and some won't be ready no matter how hard you push. They aren't all ready at 5. Poverty is why we don't measure up internationally. 1 out of 4 America children live in poverty.

The frustrating thing is research says the opposite of what we're forced to do in schools. Young children need lots of play and movement to learn. Homework doesn't increase learning! Give more recess, instead of less.

Helicopter parenting doesn't help either. A lot of kids can't zip coats, put on shoes, go to the bathroom independently, share, open doors, etc. even when they're 5 or 6.

Preach!

[lulu]

Dec 11, 2016 13:29:21 GMT -5 springbeduk said:

Dec 10, 2016 20:59:09 GMT -5 britab said:

Sadly the government is pushing us toward more and more "rigor" at a young age. Kinders don't need to be reading and some won't be ready no matter how hard you push. They aren't all ready at 5. Poverty is why we don't measure up internationally. 1 out of 4 America children live in poverty.

The frustrating thing is research says the opposite of what we're forced to do in schools. Young children need lots of play and movement to learn. Homework doesn't increase learning! Give more recess, instead of less.

Helicopter parenting doesn't help either. A lot of kids can't zip coats, put on shoes, go to the bathroom independently, share, open doors, etc. even when they're 5 or 6.

Preach!

My brat nephews (age 4 and 6) stand and wait for their mum to put their coats on. The don't wash their hands after the toilet and they sit on the floor waiting on their mum to put their shoes on for them.

They have no manners, severe lack of social skills and are just horrid to be around.

Both could have done with less helicopter parenting and longer learning to play and function as children.