3rd row seating?

[icedtea]

I can't speak to the car part, but I will say that I've had buyer's remorse immediately after all large purchases. Cars, house, even my laptop. It always goes away and I hope yours does too!

[hpnegirl]

I can speak to the pilot seat thing itself but not the 3rd row as we have yet to use the third row- our middle row is a full row and we have DS1 on the passenger side. I could easily change him on the seat and found that the angle of the seat made it easier because he couldn't roll around as easily as on the changing table or the floor. I just laid him long ways on the seat with his feet towards a door. It took a couple tries to get used to it there but it wasn't a big deal.

That said, a bucket seat will take up the full space between passenger seat and car seat but so did our convertible when RF.

[akraus2015]

Did you just buy it yesterday? Most places give you a certain amount of time to change your mind. Usually 24-48 hours I think. If it's truly not what you want and you think you overpaid, take it back.

[mustloveerica]

Have you considered removing one captains seat temporarily? We're going to look at minivans this weekend. I'm thinking once the girls are in convertible seats we may put them in the third row. Then remove one captains seat from the second row. This opens everything up for easy access to the third row and then you can use the open floor space for diaper changing. It also would leave the big open area for dogs, bags, gear, whatever and a passenger could ride comfortably in the remaining captains seat.

[mustloveerica]

Also I'm sure the same thing will happen to us. We're going to look and not buy. But I'm sure we'll come home with a new car anyway. I have buyers remorse already because we don't NEED a. Ew car. But a van would be more practical and I think now is the time to trade in dHs car before it drops in value too much more. So the decision of now or in a year is what is eating me.

[akraus2015]

Dec 20, 2016 9:27:50 GMT -5 mustloveerica said:

Also I'm sure the same thing will happen to us. We're going to look and not buy. But I'm sure we'll come home with a new car anyway. I have buyers remorse already because we don't NEED a. Ew car. But a van would be more practical and I think now is the time to trade in dHs car before it drops in value too much more. So the decision of now or in a year is what is eating me.

This is where we were with my Elantra. We decided to wait and it did not work in our favor. Now we're super upside down on my 4Runner because the Elantra was a lease and I kept putting miles on it. So I'm just aggressively trying to pay off my 4Runner because I know I want to keep it for a long time but I HAVE to get rid of this enormous payment.

[mustloveerica]

Dec 20, 2016 9:39:39 GMT -5 akraus2015 said:

Dec 20, 2016 9:27:50 GMT -5 mustloveerica said:

Also I'm sure the same thing will happen to us. We're going to look and not buy. But I'm sure we'll come home with a new car anyway. I have buyers remorse already because we don't NEED a. Ew car. But a van would be more practical and I think now is the time to trade in dHs car before it drops in value too much more. So the decision of now or in a year is what is eating me.

This is where we were with my Elantra. We decided to wait and it did not work in our favor. Now we're super upside down on my 4Runner because the Elantra was a lease and I kept putting miles on it. So I'm just aggressively trying to pay off my 4Runner because I know I want to keep it for a long time but I HAVE to get rid of this enormous payment.

Right! So my car is paid off. It's a 2013 Kia Sportage and when I bought it I added every possible feature I could to it because I wanted to. Then I super aggressively paid it off and have been driving it payment free for a couple years now. Great! DH drives a junky Honda Civic that he paid way too much for and is still making payments on. So the first hurdle was to convince DH to take my car and trade his in. For some reason he loves his car. But I convinced him. And I think with the end of year rush to get rid of the old models we might pull off getting a van for the same payment DH makes on his Civic. So that's a win! But I feel a tad guilty making him trade in his car that he loves and take my car instead. But it's the practical plan so that we would still only have one car payment.

[mustloveerica]

Dec 20, 2016 10:09:50 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Dec 20, 2016 9:27:50 GMT -5 mustloveerica said:

Also I'm sure the same thing will happen to us. We're going to look and not buy. But I'm sure we'll come home with a new car anyway. I have buyers remorse already because we don't NEED a. Ew car. But a van would be more practical and I think now is the time to trade in dHs car before it drops in value too much more. So the decision of now or in a year is what is eating me.

We didn't get the captain seat. It was only available with the trim at $48k. I can deal with not using the third row much because we really only want it for the dogs, but I wanted a white car and we got suckered into an extra $45/month for some stupid extension on our warranty. I wanted a $550 payment/month and we walked out with $700. We didn't negotiate at all. I wasn't in the right frame of mind because I didn't expect to buy. I've had tons of anxiety about it all day.

At this point I want to call and I want a white car. The guy was like "well, we picked grey exterior and black interior because of spills will babies" and I'm mostly pissed because that's the same as our CRV and we have spills everywhere, and we specifically upgraded to mid level for leather seats for easy cleaning, but since they retain so much heat, I wanted light coloring so I may see if I can change that.

If I were you I'd take it back. It's not what you wanted and that's a lot of money for something you don't love. Take it back. Tell them you're going to keep shopping and maybe they'll magically cut you a deal and find you a white one.

[marshian]

@wineandcupcakes - I'm sorry you're not happy and didn't get what you wanted in multiple areas. I would absolutely call or go in person if you're able and tell them you felt pressured to buy that car right then and are not happy with them or the car. They might be able to work with you on getting a car you like better.

The sad reality is once you drive it off the lot, unless they have a clause in the contract otherwise, it's yours and it's depreciating. My dad sells cars for a living and so I'm lucky in that I can handle the situation and the salesperson, but they really do put on the pressure to buy now and upgrade everything.

[mustloveerica]

Ugh I'm so sorry you're in this position. Be a hard ass when you call don't let them talk you into keeping it. I'm pretty sure most dealers give you 24 hours or so to change your mind. Then keep shopping don't settle for something you aren't 100% committed to.

[marshian]

Dec 20, 2016 10:27:31 GMT -5 mustloveerica said:

Ugh I'm so sorry you're in this position. Be a hard ass when you call don't let them talk you into keeping it. I'm pretty sure most dealers give you 24 hours or so to change your mind. Then keep shopping don't settle for something you aren't 100% committed to.

Definitely check your contract. If they give you time to take it back, take it now. And then I agree with the above: Take your sweet time. Spell out what you want and say you'll wait for them to get it in if it's not on the lot.

[onesweetworld]

I'm sorry @wineandcupcakes, go drive it back to the dealer and tell them how you feel.

[marshian]

Dec 20, 2016 10:47:59 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Dec 20, 2016 10:31:01 GMT -5 marshian said:

Definitely check your contract. If they give you time to take it back, take it now. And then I agree with the above: Take your sweet time. Spell out what you want and say you'll wait for them to get it in if it's not on the lot.

I think we can refuse delivery...but lose our $2k deposit. Honestly, I like the car and even with car seats we can get the dogs in the back via the trunk, and really, that's all we wanted. I guess now I'm just pissed we didn't negotiate at all and added on $45/month to extend our warranty and get a cleaning package (which is exactly why we upgraded to the leather trim anyways - easier cleaning).

I did call and said I wanted white. He called and said the documents had already gone through. I missed his call and called back and said that I'm sorry to be difficulty but for $41k, I want a damn white car so let's figure it out. I have a feeling I'll lose. I don't hate the grey exterior/black interior, but we already have a car like that and I'm sick of it and black leather will be extra hot.

Gotcha. I hope they can do white for you. I'm sure it exists, they just have to get that car to you and don't want extra work to do so.

Sounds like it will work for your family, you're just upset about how it went down. That makes sense. High pressure, big purchase situations are super stressful!

[marshian]

@wineandcupcakes - Besides having coaching from my dad, I'm also lucky in that my H is great in high pressure. He never feels like he has to buy anything at any point. We will need to buy another car in the next couple years and I already know we'll be walking in knowing what we want and if they can't do it we'll walk out and try the next guy. I definitely can feel the pressure but I'm decent at holding out and can do it if H is there.

[PirateCat]

Dec 20, 2016 10:47:59 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Dec 20, 2016 10:31:01 GMT -5 marshian said:

Definitely check your contract. If they give you time to take it back, take it now. And then I agree with the above: Take your sweet time. Spell out what you want and say you'll wait for them to get it in if it's not on the lot.

I think we can refuse delivery...but lose our $2k deposit. Honestly, I like the car and even with car seats we can get the dogs in the back via the trunk, and really, that's all we wanted. I guess now I'm just pissed we didn't negotiate at all and added on $45/month to extend our warranty and get a cleaning package (which is exactly why we upgraded to the leather trim anyways - easier cleaning).

I did call and said I wanted white. He called and said the documents had already gone through. I missed his call and called back and said that I'm sorry to be difficulty but for $41k, I want a damn white car so let's figure it out. I have a feeling I'll lose. I don't hate the grey exterior/black interior, but we already have a car like that and I'm sick of it and black leather will be extra hot.

If you don't have the car on hand and JUST ordered it yesterday I would definitely not back down on wanting the color you want. Also, could you also back out of the extended warranty deal? Sounds like you've only put a deposit down and haven't actually finalized the purchase or financing, is that right? I would think that would be easy enough to un-agree to until you finalize the financing and sign the papers. 

[thelittleredm]

I have no buyers remorse at all about our Chevy Traverse purchase earlier this year. That said, one of our car seats is forward facing so if people have to get in the back, they still can. We sometimes move DS to the backseat if need by to make things easier on passengers but that's only for longer trips or if there are a lot of stops.

[akraus2015]

Dec 20, 2016 9:49:21 GMT -5 mustloveerica said:

Dec 20, 2016 9:39:39 GMT -5 akraus2015 said:

This is where we were with my Elantra. We decided to wait and it did not work in our favor. Now we're super upside down on my 4Runner because the Elantra was a lease and I kept putting miles on it. So I'm just aggressively trying to pay off my 4Runner because I know I want to keep it for a long time but I HAVE to get rid of this enormous payment.

Right! So my car is paid off. It's a 2013 Kia Sportage and when I bought it I added every possible feature I could to it because I wanted to. Then I super aggressively paid it off and have been driving it payment free for a couple years now. Great! DH drives a junky Honda Civic that he paid way too much for and is still making payments on. So the first hurdle was to convince DH to take my car and trade his in. For some reason he loves his car. But I convinced him. And I think with the end of year rush to get rid of the old models we might pull off getting a van for the same payment DH makes on his Civic. So that's a win! But I feel a tad guilty making him trade in his car that he loves and take my car instead. But it's the practical plan so that we would still only have one car payment.

I would die to have only one vehicle payment.  We pay more in vehicle payments right now than we do on our mortgage, which makes me want to cry.  We have my new 4Runner, H's diesel truck, and a new Harley.  Our goal for the end of 2017 is to pay off the truck, downgrade the Harley for an older one with less bells and whistles (it's not like we can both ride it with my big pregnant belly/an infant, anyway), and pay off my car so we have ZERO vehicle payments.  It will literally save us one whole paycheck.

[icedtea]

@wineandcupcakes, I feel you on not negotiating. I brought my dad to buy my current car (which I've had for ages) because I knew he'd handle it. I suck at negotiating. I'm glad they took off the extra charges, and hope the car works out great!

[marshian]

Dec 20, 2016 13:06:58 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Our goal was to just have one payment but with the babies and the fact that our Buick just died, we had no choice. That being said, cars are so expensive!

I'm taking this as a learning experience. Next time I will go in armed with a sassy attitude from remembering this experience.

Also, they are removing the $600 in erroneous charges.

Good job getting those charges removed!

[PirateCat]

Dec 20, 2016 12:05:13 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Nope, we are idiots and signed all the papers.

And come to find out, I just realized we were charged for two things he said he was "throwing in"

I called the dealership and basically said I am coming down there this afternoon and want out of the contract. If I'm nice and they are nice, they technically can just recoup their costs of the DMV stuff and give us the rest back. I'm willing to lose $500 on this car to get a much better deal elsewhere.

I don't think you are morons. I hate negotiating, too, so I totally get it. It is their job to pressure you into buying and it sounds like you are dealing with extra sleazy salespeople. I would kick some shit about being charged for things you were told were free and not let them off the hook easily.

I'm sorry that you're unhappy with the experience and I hope that you can get them to agree to a solution that you can feel better about. 

ETA: I'm slow and I see that you got the charges removed! Any progress on the white car?

[marshian]

Dec 20, 2016 16:08:13 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Dec 20, 2016 14:32:40 GMT -5 marshian said:

Good job getting those charges removed!

Now we can't find the title of the car we are trading in!!!

Oh geez! This is just all against you right now!

[PirateCat]

@wineandcupcakes, good luck! I hope that you'll end up loving your new car anyway. I don't really understand how so much can be done without the car actually exchanging hands. We put down a deposit on a car last week and we didn't go through any paperwork until we went to pick it up. But this is only my second time buying a car so obviously I don't really know a lot about it - it just seems strange to me.

[marshian]

crimpgirl - Not sure if you're a unicorn or I just seem to encounter everyone who works on commission and is pushing the sale. Either way, props to you! My H is good about reminding me I can always go back and get it later and you can always say no. The only time we really do quick buys is on vacation when we will not be back in that location and know we can't get whatever it is somewhere else.

[marshian]

@wineandcupcakes - That sounds awesome! Was it fantastic? I've been skydiving but it was in a non-scenic location. Still super amazing.