Since several of us have LO's who are struggling with sleep, let's talk sleep training, shall we? STM's, did you sleep train previously? What methods have you tried, and were they successful? FTM's who plan to sleep train, what methods are you considering?
Older DD was always a pretty good sleeper, but we did need to do some sleep training for nap time around 6-7?mos. using Ferber. Luckily, it was pretty painless and we were on track within a couple days. I've been brushing up on my reading ("Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems") over the last week. I was hoping to wait until Jan to start (6 months) but things have been awful, so I'm considering starting while we are home over the holidays. I need to do more research and reading before I decide.
Post by rungirlrun on Dec 24, 2016 11:04:31 GMT -5
DS1 was always a good night sleeper so we never had to train him (I'm being punished for having it easy before w this baby). We did have to nap train him, but it took a long time before we were successful. He was very stubborn. But I really liked the method in The Sleep Easy Solution. I wanted to wait until 6 months to train E, but we are starting next week at 5 months using this approach. His sleep is so bad that he's killing us, and we really can't wait another month.
Post by Susan0utLoud on Dec 24, 2016 11:36:10 GMT -5
We sleep trained our older at 10 months. We were very hesitant to do it, but were at our breaking point. We did Ferber and it worked great for him. We've had to go back and do some more sleep training as he gets older, but always Ferber. In fact, we're getting ready to probably do some more when we transition him to a big boy bed. If you do Ferber, read the relevant chapters of the book first and make sure both parents are on board. It won't work if you're not a united front, IMO.
For this baby, she's doing pretty good so far. We'll see how it goes when we transition her from our room to crib. She will share a room with the older. It will be interesting!!
Post by cabbagecabbage on Dec 24, 2016 12:21:43 GMT -5
At 18 months I night weaned DD. We spent the days talking about it beforehand. It took 4 nights. I won't do any sleep training with Mal until he's old enough to understand and we talk about it first. That's my comfort level. DD slept with me until age 2 but sleeps great in her own room now.
Post by littlesthobo on Dec 24, 2016 16:42:08 GMT -5
I sleep trained DS1 when he was 6 months, using the stepped soothing method (CIO while going into soothe at intervals, increasing the length of time between soothing until baby is asleep). The first night took 25 mins, the second 15, the third 10 and by the fourth he got it and I could lay him down and walk out. It really solved our nap issues too.
Post by sarcaztic10 on Dec 24, 2016 17:48:04 GMT -5
L slept with me until he was about 9 months old and we were both loosing sleep by bed sharing. At that point I started laying him down drowsy and patting his back to get him to sleep. He resisted for a little while and wanted picked back up a lot but he eventually got it. After that I was always able to just lay him down and walk out. We never had any regressions or anything.
With S I will let him lead and I am ok with sleeping with him until it becomes a problem for us. At that point we will transition to a crib and I will use it he same method I did with L.
I sleep trained DS1 when he was 6 months, using the stepped soothing method (CIO while going into soothe at intervals, increasing the length of time between soothing until baby is asleep). The first night took 25 mins, the second 15, the third 10 and by the fourth he got it and I could lay him down and walk out. It really solved our nap issues too.
This is exactly what we are doing now. What did you do for MOTN wake ups? I don't think E is ready to go all night without eating, but I don't want to rush into his room and feed him every time he cries. I was thinking of only feeding him if it's been 3+ hours and if not, just soothing in intervals until he falls asleep. But not sure if this will confuse him if I feed him sometimes when he wakes up but not others.
I sleep trained DS1 when he was 6 months, using the stepped soothing method (CIO while going into soothe at intervals, increasing the length of time between soothing until baby is asleep). The first night took 25 mins, the second 15, the third 10 and by the fourth he got it and I could lay him down and walk out. It really solved our nap issues too.
This is exactly what we are doing now. What did you do for MOTN wake ups? I don't think E is ready to go all night without eating, but I don't want to rush into his room and feed him every time he cries. I was thinking of only feeding him if it's been 3+ hours and if not, just soothing in intervals until he falls asleep. But not sure if this will confuse him if I feed him sometimes when he wakes up but not others.
IDK if this helps, but with DD1, she became dependant on nursing to soothe her back to sleep MOTN. She was up every 2 hrs and was 7 months. I found a sleep site that said for her age and weight, she should be able to go one 6 hour stretch without a feed. I put her to bed at 7 pm, Dream fed her at 10, and refused to nurse until 4 am, so all wakeups before then I picked her up and rocked her (sleep training side note: I 'faded' my presence from rocking to picking her up but patting her. It was great for like a week when she learned to stand and it went to hell). She was pissed about no boob at first but caught on quickly. With Baby R, she doesn't wake up as much so I'm more forgiving, but I don't nurse if it's only been 2-3 hours since the last feed. She has no prob, she just wants to be held :/
We ST DS1, around 9 months and I wish I had done it earlier. Looking back now, it was a disaster the way we did it. At first we used Ferbers method of checking in and soothing during wake ups. that worked great...for a month or so. Then I would revert back to nursing all night. He is still a shit sleeper.
I need to do something with DS2. He's worse than DS1 ever was. B is only sleeping 1.5-2 hours still. Every now and then he will give me one good stretch but then it's back to his normal shit show.
B is 5 months old (won't be 6 months until 1/21). He has a terrible cold ATM so I'm not going to change anything up in the few days until it's cleared up.
I need to do something, soon. I'm going to lose my shit.
We never really sleep trained DS he was an all around horrible sleeper and anytime we tried sleep training he flipped out and I just couldn't do it.
With DD1 we sleep trained for naps/bedtime at 6ish months and it went really well. I got her used to going down in her crib awake but stayed by her until she fell asleep patting her butt. Then after that went well I used the going in at intervals and comforting. I remember it being very easy with few tears.
I plan to do the same with J. She is already going down in her crib awake and I just pat her butt till she's asleep, sometimes I don't even have to do that I just sit there. On a good night she'll wake up every 3 hours to nurse and I just lay her in her crib and she's back asleep. I plan to try to cut down the night feedings next week. I need at least one long stretch in there. On bad nights, like last night ugh, she was up every 1-2 hours. Idk why. I just shush her back to sleep if it hasn't been at least 3 hours. It's hard because if I let her cry MOTN there's a high chance she'll wake up the other 2. So Idk how I'm going to deal with that.
For those of you how do butt/back partying to calm are your LOs sleeping on their bellies? If Flint sleeps in his back should I just stroke his hair or rib his belly?
For those of you how do butt/back partying to calm are your LOs sleeping on their bellies? If Flint sleeps in his back should I just stroke his hair or rib his belly?
Yeah, J sleeps on her belly most of the time. If she is on her back I'll stoke her hair/face, pat/rub her chest, or pat her thigh/side butt, lol.
Post by rungirlrun on Dec 30, 2016 22:49:27 GMT -5
glaze, we started sleep training this week, and E has had a few long crying episodes while my older one was asleep. I was nervous he's wake up, but he has never woken up. Their bedrooms are right next to each other, and DS1 doesn't have a noisemaker. So you may be surprised!
Post by jewelsofthenile on Dec 31, 2016 6:11:33 GMT -5
With DD i tried sleep training and failed miserably. She was hard to get to sleep without nursing. When i got pregnant with DS I night weaned her cause i could function with the 2-3 wakeups she was doing. It took about 4 days but she got it and her sleep improved dramatically. I should have done that sooner. So far I havent done a lot of thought about sleep training. I think DS would do well with it since he sucks his thumb so he has self soothing down. It maybe something we try here next month or 2.
glaze I have a 4.5 yo and her room is also next to the baby's. We talked to her about it beforehand and told her she might hear a lot of crying, but nothing was wrong and she didn't need to worry. She did come out of her room once looking for daddy but overall she had no problem. GL if you go that route
So I ended up with some sort of stomach bug yesterday and needed to sleep last night. DH took the night shift and E slept 9:30-6:30!!! Wtf?!?! I guess he needs to be on the night shift every night. She did take 90 min to fall asleep but DH did the progressive checks and she finally put herself to sleep. Hallelujah.
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