AFM, MH and I made a very difficult decision last week. Seeing as we are on the next to last month of the 6th month deadline, per my neurologist, and we have zero hope of conceiving naturally and lack the funds to pursue any other options, we have decided to end our pursuit of having children and will be CFNBC. My heart breaks typing this and I have been so depressed the last few days. I truly never thought we would reach this point when I joined TB in 2013. I love you all so much and thank you all for the support and advice you've given me. I will likely post much less but lurk like crazy, handing out love tits. I'm wishing you all the best of luck and hope you all get your bfp's soon.
I'm so sorry that you have had to make this decision. Hugs to you and your H.
Post by thechickencoop on Jan 9, 2017 18:26:37 GMT -5
kawaiikitsune {{hugs}} hon. I'm so sorry that you guys have made such a difficult decision. We are all always here for you; please take care of yourself.
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
kawaiikitsune It brings me so much sadness to read your update and I hope for so much peace for you and YH with this decision and your journey. Difficult as it is, I hope having a position/decision allows you both to heal and move forward in peace. So many hugs
kawaiikitsune Oh cute fox, I'm so sorry that you've reached this decision. You will always be my favorite International Bumpie from the US and I hate this for you. I wish you peace as you try and navigate this next phase of your life. My inbox is always open.
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
I got AF on Saturday, the last day of my vacation (boo) and I emailed my doc to update her and for the safety of everyone did tell her that I did get one fucking mosquito bite while in the Caribbean.
She emailed me back and said she'd be calling me today to discuss the CDCs recommended wait time before getting pregnant so I can only assume that means she won't let me transfer this month.
Obviously, I don't want to take unnecessary risks with this embryo but I'm also trying to live my life. So yeah, I assume she will let me transfer on my next period (that will be 7 weeks after exposure and CDC recommends 8 weeks) so I guess I'm just on hold until then.
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
Good luck at your consult, daisy818 ! I hope you can find a clinic that works best for you.
Dude, butlerfan, we haven't taken down our Christmas decorations yet. I brought stuff inside, and it's just hanging out in my living room wondering where its home is. LOL.
jense927, gotta love how you try to plan appropriately for TTC, and nothing works out right. It's maddening, I swear. Hang in there!
Cythe, of-fucking-course with the more waiting and waiting and waiting. Ughhh. Hope it goes by quickly for you.
kawaiikitsune, this just fucking breaks my heart for you. Please know you're one of the strongest women I have met on this forum, and you have provided so much guidance and love. I wish you nothing but the best going forward.
MrsRC-33, MrRC-37. TTC#1 since 2/13. DX: T2 diet controlled diabetic, removed multiple fibroids blocking tubes, via robotic myomectomy, hysteroscopy and D&C on 5/15. CD3 b/w normal. HSG normal after surgery. On the bench April-June 2015. NTNP indefinitely. Loss mentioned.
Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on Jan 10, 2017 11:39:12 GMT -5
I've been AWOL. Sorreh. It's easier for me to deal with the waiting game if I'm not surrounded by it errday. I have been catching up with those posting, though. Wishing everyone the best, always.
AFM, I'm supposed to have another FET on the 26th. But that included starting my period by today, and it hasn't started yet. So who-fucking-knows if that'll get pushed. The Lupron is making me tired this time around - not sure why. We're going to transfer two this time, so I'm a ball of nerves about that. MH and I joke that we need to make room for quadruplets since we're taking the chance of transferring two instead of one. Because that would be our luck. But hey man, I'll take whatever healthy bebes I can get.
I got AF on Saturday, the last day of my vacation (boo) and I emailed my doc to update her and for the safety of everyone did tell her that I did get one fucking mosquito bite while in the Caribbean.
She emailed me back and said she'd be calling me today to discuss the CDCs recommended wait time before getting pregnant so I can only assume that means she won't let me transfer this month.
Obviously, I don't want to take unnecessary risks with this embryo but I'm also trying to live my life. So yeah, I assume she will let me transfer on my next period (that will be 7 weeks after exposure and CDC recommends 8 weeks) so I guess I'm just on hold until then.
Can they test you for Zika? I would be mad at having to wait another month, too.
AFM - H and I are taking a break for a few months post-ectopic loss. Happily, it resolved on its own without any intervention. I have an appointment on the 23rd to discuss next steps, but we probably won't be getting back into treatments or TTC until April at the earliest. We're going to Peru for two weeks in March, so we need to talk about Zika and all that on top of how to prevent another ectopic and if my tube is worth keeping (I'm thinking no).
Actually, she just called (and we agreed to wait) and said that currently in the US testing is almost exclusively reserved for women who are already pregnant (fucking eye roll) and she said it would probably be difficult to get the testing covered or even agreed to for someone who is technically TTC.
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
Engaged May 2003 Married June 2005 TTC #1 since October 2014 H-1% morph, low motility, low count Me-.1 AMH levels, low AFC, DOR/POI, perimenopause Foster Care journey begins March 2016-licensed 11/7/16 Foster parents to A & J 1/31/17 www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5525ef
kawaiikitsune I am sending lots of love your way. I am so sorry for where this journey has taken you. I am heartbroken for you
Cythe ugh that sucks about the mosquito bite. We went to the Bahamas in December and my RE said she would not do a transfer for 8 weeks regardless of actually getting a bite and that my H and I should have protected sex for 6 months. We can't do a transfer for 6 months anyway but still, it seemed extreme. She made me feel so guilty for even considering going but boy and I glad I did (since we found out we have to wait anyways!!!) Also LOL to protected sex for 6 months after 2+ year trying...
kawaiikitsune I am sending lots of love your way. I am so sorry for where this journey has taken you. I am heartbroken for you
Cythe ugh that sucks about the mosquito bite. We went to the Bahamas in December and my RE said she would not do a transfer for 8 weeks regardless of actually getting a bite and that my H and I should have protected sex for 6 months. We can't do a transfer for 6 months anyway but still, it seemed extreme. She made me feel so guilty for even considering going but boy and I glad I did (since we found out we have to wait anyways!!!) Also LOL to protected sex for 6 months after 2+ year trying...
Allll this. My doctor and I had a big old discussion and she freely admits that even the CDC doesn't know much about zika and it's transfer. And considering my genetic material is already frozen and has had 0 exposure not transferring seems extreme.
I'm sorry your doc made you feel guilty, no one will understand how IF makes you put your life on hold and fuck that. Live your life, I'm glad you guys went!
IUI 1-3 BFN IVF #1 - Oct '15 - 10R, 3M, 0F IVF #2 - August 16 - 12R, 11M, 5F. 1 to transfer and 2 to freeze - BFP!! - MMC caught at 7w5d FET #1 - 1/26 - BFP, due 10/14
Post by ohinvrtedworld on Jan 10, 2017 15:18:36 GMT -5
kawaiikitsune Oh friend, I'm so so sorry that you've reached this point. My eyes welled up to read your post. It's complete bullshit that external factors had to set this timeline for you. We are always here for you & YH no matter what. 💛
ironbaby So excited for you! Keeping everything crossed for you this cycle! thechickencoop Good luck tomorrow! butlerfan FX'ed the new protocol stops the random spotting! daisy818 Sorry about impending CD1. Good luck with the consult(s)! Will you be able to do monitoring somewhere closer if you choose the clinic that's 3 hours away? @sparky85 FX'ed you O sometime soon and don't have to wait months to see an RE! jense927 Glad to hear you're at peace with your decision. A girls trip to Vegas sounds like a fun way to help the time pass! ceejay Sorry about all the uncertainty surrounding your foster sons' bio sibling. That has to be frustrating. Good luck at the permanency hearing! ****** Good luck with your HSG! Let me know how it goes. bex15 Yay for not spotting! Good luck tomorrow! Cythe Ugh that sucks but I think you're making the right decision! Hopefully those 8 weeks go by fast. ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ Hope your period starts soon so your cycle doesn't get pushed! Keeping my FX'ed for you! @yaga Hugs. I hope the break and vacation help you take your mind off things!
AFM, I had my lap yesterday and my RE found some endo! It wasn't a lot so she was able to remove it right then and there. She didn't seem hopeful that this was going to get me KU (and after doing some research, I'm not sure it's going to increase my odds by that much either), but I am glad to have some sort of answer after all this time. I want to thank you ladies for pushing me to get the lap. My RE said she thought it was unnecessary and ultimately left the decision up to me. Originally I had told her that I didn't want to do it, but I changed my mind after talking to some of you about it. And I'm glad I did! Even if she didn't find anything, it gives me some peace of mind which I desperately need. So thanks! Just another reason to be grateful for this place and you ladies
QOTW: I didn't watch the Golden Globes. I'm not really an award show kind of person.
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
Post by diamondsndaisies on Jan 11, 2017 21:51:33 GMT -5
Well Ladies, I officially get to join you here. We are starting the process of infertility treatments, and DH had an SA done to start with. We got the results back today and he has a low sperm count. They told us the next course of action is to do IUI. I know this isn't uncommon but I am devastated. I never in a million years thought we would be here. Poor DH is handling it pretty well but he internalizes everything and I'm not sure I will ever fully know how much this hurts him. I just hope I can be what he needs me to be. He was so amazing when we lost our girls, I don't know what I would have done without him.
So, I have done a bunch of research on my own, but I am kinda looking for some personal experiences with IUI. Anyone have any experience dealing with low sperm count? How much did it end up costing with all of the tests and ultrasounds etc. any advice would be helpful.
Post by diamondsndaisies on Jan 11, 2017 21:53:58 GMT -5
kawaiikitsune I am so sorry. I can't imagine how you are feeling. I am giving you all the hugs and I hope that things change for the better so you can consider treatment again.
Well Ladies, I officially get to join you here. We are starting the process of infertility treatments, and DH had an SA done to start with. We got the results back today and he has a low sperm count. They told us the next course of action is to do IUI. I know this isn't uncommon but I am devastated. I never in a million years thought we would be here. Poor DH is handling it pretty well but he internalizes everything and I'm not sure I will ever fully know how much this hurts him. I just hope I can be what he needs me to be. He was so amazing when we lost our girls, I don't know what I would have done without him.
So, I have done a bunch of research on my own, but I am kinda looking for some personal experiences with IUI. Anyone have any experience dealing with low sperm count? How much did it end up costing with all of the tests and ultrasounds etc. any advice would be helpful.
Hugs. Welcome but I'm sorry you find yourself here.
Were your H's other sperm parameters normal (motility, morphology)? Just low count? IUI should give you guys a good chance if low count was the only issue identified. My H has lowish count and low morphology, and our RE also recommended we try IUIs first. We have an MFI check-in on 3T if you want to join us there and ask more specific questions about MFI.
Do you have insurance coverage for IUIs or are you entirely OOP?
We are also dealing with MFI. The IUI we are going to do is priced at approximately $2,500, and we are all oop. That includes everything for our cycle (ultrasounds, meds, the procedure) I will have minimal stimulation medication though, so I don't know how much the extra meds would cost.
diamondsndaisies - we are 100% MFI and H's SAs have been a cluster over the last year and a half. If you are high enough for IUI I wouldn't be too worried for it just yet. Has he just done one? Sometimes illness or injury can temporarily reduce count.
Lately H has cut out artificial sugar and sodas and we both think it is helping. He also takes a special multivitamin and 1000mg of vitamin c daily per our Urologists instructions.
If you are OOP ask about the test costs before because some are pretty expensive.
Well Ladies, I officially get to join you here. We are starting the process of infertility treatments, and DH had an SA done to start with. We got the results back today and he has a low sperm count. They told us the next course of action is to do IUI. I know this isn't uncommon but I am devastated. I never in a million years thought we would be here. Poor DH is handling it pretty well but he internalizes everything and I'm not sure I will ever fully know how much this hurts him. I just hope I can be what he needs me to be. He was so amazing when we lost our girls, I don't know what I would have done without him.
So, I have done a bunch of research on my own, but I am kinda looking for some personal experiences with IUI. Anyone have any experience dealing with low sperm count? How much did it end up costing with all of the tests and ultrasounds etc. any advice would be helpful.
Our only diagnosis is MFI. That being said I still had to go through all of the testing to do an IUI. I assume the RE is still running bloodwork and giving you an HSG to make sure your tubes are open? IUI could be useless if there is more going on. MH handled it a lot better than a lot of men I hear about. At this point we're able to joke about his lazy sperm and my super eggs. It does get easier. Our OOP costs was about 1600 and we wound up paying 800 with insurance.
TTC #1: March 2014 Dx: MFI Medicated IUI #1: March 2015-BFP Baby Girl born 11/5/2015! TTC #2: August 2016 Medicated IUI #1: Feb 2017-BFN Medicated IUI #2: March 2017-BFP Baby Boy expected Dec. 1
Post by diamondsndaisies on Jan 12, 2017 10:27:19 GMT -5
DH has decided that we are going to wait 6 months. He doesn't want any intervention apparently. I don't know if it is realistically possible to up your count on your own but he has decided that's what we are doing. I can understand but at the same time I am heartbroken. I thought we were moving forward and now we are just standing still. I am having a hard time accepting the setback. I thought we were both ready to proceed and now he is pulling the rug out from under me.
DH has decided that we are going to wait 6 months. He doesn't want any intervention apparently. I don't know if it is realistically possible to up your count on your own but he has decided that's what we are doing. I can understand but at the same time I am heartbroken. I thought we were moving forward and now we are just standing still. I am having a hard time accepting the setback. I thought we were both ready to proceed and now he is pulling the rug out from under me.
Hugs. It's hard to not be on the same page with your H. If he is willing to do some minimal effort things, I would have him start taking CoQ10 and men's fertility vitamin. At worst, they will have no effect, but at best, they could help to increase his counts. Then at least you guys can be doing something that could help, while you wait to pursue further intervention.
diamondsndaisies Hugs. I'm sorry you go here now. I don't have any advice on the MFI but my IUIs cost me ~$370 a cycle. My insurance covered the ultrasounds but not the actual IUI. It would've been somewhere around $1100-1200 OOP. Clomid and hCG were also covered by my insurance. Good luck!
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
DH has decided that we are going to wait 6 months. He doesn't want any intervention apparently. I don't know if it is realistically possible to up your count on your own but he has decided that's what we are doing. I can understand but at the same time I am heartbroken. I thought we were moving forward and now we are just standing still. I am having a hard time accepting the setback. I thought we were both ready to proceed and now he is pulling the rug out from under me.
Hugs. It's hard to not be on the same page with your H. If he is willing to do some minimal effort things, I would have him start taking CoQ10 and men's fertility vitamin. At worst, they will have no effect, but at best, they could help to increase his counts. Then at least you guys can be doing something that could help, while you wait to pursue further intervention.
We agreed to have a consult with the Dr. and see if there is anything we can do ourselves. His count came back at 15 million and they said they wanted him at 40 million at least.
Engaged May 2003 Married June 2005 TTC #1 since October 2014 H-1% morph, low motility, low count Me-.1 AMH levels, low AFC, DOR/POI, perimenopause Foster Care journey begins March 2016-licensed 11/7/16 Foster parents to A & J 1/31/17 www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5525ef
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