Post by sstwinklinglites on Feb 19, 2015 9:40:33 GMT -5
I'm going to put this under UO because I'm sure some people are going to hate me.
DS has been sleeping in in the mornings. I put him down around 6:30PM as usual, and he's sleeping in until 9ish in the morning. Usual for us was between 7 & 8AM. And a couple of the last mornings I think he's only woken up because I start freaking out that something is wrong and go in the nursery and he wakes.
Should I be worried? I'm freaking out that he's sleeping so much at night. We're down to one nap a day right now because he's waking up so late (by the time he's due for nap #2, it's too close to bedtime). I hate to be complaining about good sleep, but is this really good sleep, or a sign of something serious?
Post by ladytiffany24 on Feb 19, 2015 10:02:01 GMT -5
How about you lend becole and I a couple of those extra hours from the morning for our LO's overall sleep and then you'll feel like things are back to normal. K? lol
But for realz, I agree with catching up from travel. But also, if he's only napping once a day, that could cause it too. I'd imagine he'll regulate soon.
Post by sstwinklinglites on Feb 19, 2015 10:02:58 GMT -5
becole & ladytiffany24 - I hadn't thought about it as catching up from traveling. He was not getting nearly enough sleep while we were gone. Ok, I feel a tiny, bit better. But I do have a list a mile long for our nine month appt. (thank goodness it's next week).
My DS has been sleeping more in the past few days too sstwinklinglites. I hadn't crossed my mind that something could be wrong. He's just gotten so much more active in the past couple weeks with crawling and pulling himself up that I figured he was extra tired.
Post by ladytiffany24 on Feb 19, 2015 10:13:32 GMT -5
My DD just doesn't sleep much no matter what is going on. Growth spurt=no sleep. Teething=no sleep. Happy baby=no sleep. Tired baby=no sleep. Happiest baby on the planet=no sleep. Where did I go wrong?!
Post by sstwinklinglites on Feb 19, 2015 10:35:22 GMT -5
bazingaa & theophania - He is super active lately (same as yours bazingaa), and does look extra long to me this week, so everything you're saying makes sense.
Thank you all for your insight. I guess we've just worked so hard on sleep, that when anything changes in the sleep department I start to panic.
ladytiffany24 - Some babies just don't need as much sleep as others. Although, you're struggling through wake ups right? One of the mamas on my BMB recently talked about how her DD1 used to wake up to nurse every two - three hours until she was like one. Then until like 1.5 she went to two or three wake ups. Then all by herself started sleeping twelve hours straight. So there is hope that everything will work itself out.
My DD just doesn't sleep much no matter what is going on. Growth spurt=no sleep. Teething=no sleep. Happy baby=no sleep. Tired baby=no sleep. Happiest baby on the planet=no sleep. Where did I go wrong?!
This is us. We are trying to wait until all our colds are gone to start Ferber again. My kid thinks sleeping is a UO and I am going to make him give it up for lent.
Post by narbuckle01 on Feb 19, 2015 10:44:56 GMT -5
sstwinklinglites what were some of your concerns regarding him sleeping in more? Just interested for learning sake for me...
I had a similar experience this morning. LO went from 3-4 wake ups the past 4 nights to an 8 hour sleep stretch last night. I have no idea what causes the drastic differences besides what was already mentioned; growth spurt, leap, etc. It's wreaking havoc on my poor boobs though.
Post by ladytiffany24 on Feb 19, 2015 10:46:18 GMT -5
sstwinklinglites Yes. She is waking every 2 1/2-3 hours to nurse still. Even with all of the sleep training. And I don't know if I'm 100% on board with trying to wean her of those. Because she actually eats, doesn't just comfort nurse. So idk. I need sleep. Other people's stories certainly give me hope. I just wish she'd wean herself much quicker than a year old.
And becole,same over here. Hoping she's feeling better this weekend or next so we can retrain.
Post by sstwinklinglites on Feb 19, 2015 10:48:24 GMT -5
narbuckle01 - My concern comes from us having a very predictable sleep schedule for many months now, and bam, he wants to sleep in.
You're LO is at that age where she starts sleeping longer stretches though. I'm on the app so I can't see your siggy, but she's about 3 months right? You'll get in a nice routine, then bam, 4mw happens.
sstwinklinglites Yes. She is waking every 2 1/2-3 hours to nurse still. Even with all of the sleep training. And I don't know if I'm 100% on board with trying to wean her of those. Because she actually eats, doesn't just comfort nurse. So idk. I need sleep. Other people's stories certainly give me hope. I just wish she'd wean herself much quicker than a year old.
And becole,same over here. Hoping she's feeling better this weekend or next so we can retrain.
I do remember you saying she's big for her age. Maybe she just requires the extra calories throughout the day (night really). Small stomach plus bigger baby means more feedings? At least that's what I tell myself about LO.
narbuckle01 - My concern comes from us having a very predictable sleep schedule for many months now, and bam, he wants to sleep in.
You're LO is at that age where she starts sleeping longer stretches though. I'm on the app so I can't see your siggy, but she's about 3 months right? You'll get in a nice routine, then bam, 4mw happens.
Yep 3 months, I thought she was in the 4 month sleep regression this week and then another long stretch... from the sounds of it I should have planned my maternity leave to work the third month and be off the fourth month!
Post by jmebormann on Feb 19, 2015 13:49:25 GMT -5
ladytiffany24--oh I totally feel for you. I'm sure you probably are or did, but I would talk with your pediatrician. She just seems too old to still be feeding every 2-3hrs through the night. I know every baby is so different.
DD's father and I are both huge eaters. And this is my justification for DD wanting to eat my bewbs alllll.the.time.
I know Ferber basically says your baby wants to eat and is legitimately hungry 3 times per night because that's when she's used to eating. Kinda like if you ate breakfast at 10, you'd still be hungry at 12 out of habit if that's when you are eating every day.
My lo used to eat more than once at night. We've basically give him the paci unless it's after 2-3am (he last ate at 6:30). If he throws the paci- I just pat him but do not feed. Unless your lo needs to gain weight, I would cut the Feeds down to once/ night and it will force lo to make up the calories during the day.
Also make sure you are really filling that belly up during that day with solids, maybe try to add a few more ounces to the bottles during the day while you are cutting the night feeds.
I can tell when my lo is truly going through a growth spurt because he will eat more during the day as well- I try to really focus on giving him protein- filling foods.
You may not want my advice, sorry if it was unsolicited, but it worked for me. Our wake ups (when he's not sick) were once at 3-4 or later for food. I was working on weaning that when all of sickness started. He's still waking frequently but I keep the feeding the same so we don't create a bad habit.
Post by ladytiffany24 on Feb 19, 2015 15:24:04 GMT -5
becole No need to apologize! I'll definitely take unsolicited advice all day if it means better sleep in our house! lol.
Honestly, I think I know a lot of what I need to do. But the night weaning has scared me all along. But I'm more convinced now than ever that it needs to happen.
She has consistently only taken 4 oz in her bottles at the sitter for a long time now. The last time we tried to add more ounces, she didn't finish it. So I might just give it a try again to see if that will help. That will mean though that one of her bottles may need to be formula, which isn't the end of the world.
Also, she currently gets solids for lunch with the sitter and at dinner at home with us. Do you think I should go ahead and add "breakfast" to the mix too?
There's also part of me that knows I may have contributed to the monster. There were some nights along the way where I just tried offering the paci and patting during the MOTN but was so exhausted that i just offered the boob instead and that's what helped her get to sleep. That's my own damn fault. But you know, when you're that tired, you do just about anything.
Regardless, I'm going to try to up her bottles for the sitter by 1 ounce and maybe add breakfast so she's filling up more on calories in general during the day. I offer to nurse around 6pm (before solids) and then I top her off with nursing around 7pm right before she goes down for the night, so realistically, I know she probably doesn't need to eat until like 2 or 3am.
Post by mom2boxers on Feb 19, 2015 16:12:32 GMT -5
ladytiffany24 - I think around the 7 1/2 month mark, I added breakfast. At first it was just a Stage 2 blended oatmeal puree. I'm not a big fan of rice cereal. At 8 months, day care was able to provide a fruit puree and I would still take in one of the blended oatmeal flavors and then around 9 months I switched him to the Little Bits oatmeal with apple and cinnamon. It has more texture and I'm trying to get him used to eating things that aren't super smooth and he still gets the fruit they provide.
He did go through a week where he was ravenous around bedtime. So I gave him a little oatmeal and his 8:00 bottle and it seemed to help. I think he was in a growth spurt and we've dropped the extra food for now.
Post by chunkymonkeylvr on Feb 19, 2015 16:28:42 GMT -5
I know for my DS he ate every 2 hours until 14 months when I had to give up BF because I was knocked up and couldn't handle the touching.
It's tough. From there we still co slept but had to move him to a pack n play at 16 months because he would rub my arms and try to feel to my breasts while he slept and again with the touching.
He now sleeps 12 hours on average in a pack n play so there is hope. There is nothing wrong with what your baby is doing, unless it is making you feel unhealthy or it isn't fitting in with your family.
This is meant to come off as helpful not judgmental. I hated having my baby cry it out, so with DS I didn't and I had to pay for b it being g tired etc. With my first I did do cry it out and it worked for her and myself.
There isn't a solution that is the easiest. Babies are just gunna baby.
becole No need to apologize! I'll definitely take unsolicited advice all day if it means better sleep in our house! lol.
Honestly, I think I know a lot of what I need to do. But the night weaning has scared me all along. But I'm more convinced now than ever that it needs to happen.
She has consistently only taken 4 oz in her bottles at the sitter for a long time now. The last time we tried to add more ounces, she didn't finish it. So I might just give it a try again to see if that will help. That will mean though that one of her bottles may need to be formula, which isn't the end of the world.
Also, she currently gets solids for lunch with the sitter and at dinner at home with us. Do you think I should go ahead and add "breakfast" to the mix too?
There's also part of me that knows I may have contributed to the monster. There were some nights along the way where I just tried offering the paci and patting during the MOTN but was so exhausted that i just offered the boob instead and that's what helped her get to sleep. That's my own damn fault. But you know, when you're that tired, you do just about anything.
Regardless, I'm going to try to up her bottles for the sitter by 1 ounce and maybe add breakfast so she's filling up more on calories in general during the day. I offer to nurse around 6pm (before solids) and then I top her off with nursing around 7pm right before she goes down for the night, so realistically, I know she probably doesn't need to eat until like 2 or 3am.
Ugh. Babies are hard.
But cute.
^^^^agreed babies are hard but cute! Just when I think I get her schedule down it totally changes.
sstwinklinglites, DD sometimes sleeps in and I think it must be a growth spurt. And sometimes I will wake her up if it's been way past when she normally wakes up so I can keep her on schedule. Is he doing ok with just 1 nap? One day DD missed her morning nap because we were out longer than expected. She took a longer nap in the afternoon, but keeping her up for bedtime was kinda miserable because she was grumpy but I didn't want to put her down for the night at 5 p.m.
Post by sstwinklinglites on Feb 19, 2015 17:06:05 GMT -5
ladytiffany24 - I agree with becole that three feedings a night is too much at this age. DS was up every four hours for a feeding until I weaned him from that. It's a learned behavior. Also agree that they need the majority of their calories during the day. I had DS on three meals a day at around 7.5 months. It should help if you send your husband in to calm her when she wakes instead of you going in. They can smell the milk and then want to nurse.
Post by sstwinklinglites on Feb 19, 2015 17:08:10 GMT -5
vlagroupie - He's doing fine with one nap. He takes it around noonish (since he's sleeping until 9ish). Then the next nap would be around 4:30, making it too close to bedtime. We give bottle at 5:00, dinner at 5:30, bath at 6:00, in crib for bed at 6:30. He stays busy enough to avoid the crank monster.
sstwinklinglites your LO must have sent some vibes to my babe because it's almost 9 am and she's still sleeping. She hardly napped at grandmas yesterday so she must be making up for it. I'm guessing we will be on 1 nap today too.
sstwinklinglites your LO must have sent some vibes to my babe because it's almost 9 am and she's still sleeping. She hardly napped at grandmas yesterday so she must be making up for it. I'm guessing we will be on 1 nap today too.
Let me know how it goes!
DS woke at 8:20 today, but I think it was because he accidentally turned on his musical elephant and got scared. He started crying and I could hear the music going.
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