This is a dumb question I'm sure but it's my first period in 22 months and first real cycle charting... I spotted most of yesterday. It got heavier and heavier as the day went on (brown to pink to red), so I needed to wear a pad to bed (I went to bed at like 8:30 because cramps). Would you call yesterday CD1 or today? Today is absolutely heavy flow.
I would count it as today.
I learned on TTTC yesterday that if full red flow starts after 9pm (some will even argue 5pm), count CD1 as the following day.
This is a dumb question I'm sure but it's my first period in 22 months and first real cycle charting... I spotted most of yesterday. It got heavier and heavier as the day went on (brown to pink to red), so I needed to wear a pad to bed (I went to bed at like 8:30 because cramps). Would you call yesterday CD1 or today? Today is absolutely heavy flow.
You know the answer to this - Did you put on the pad yesterday? Also, it won't particularly matter in your case (long fucking weird cycle previously)
I put on the pad before bed because I knew a panty liner wouldn't cut it overnight. The only reason I thought it sort of mattered was how short my LP was, but I still don't think it matters that much.
This is a dumb question I'm sure but it's my first period in 22 months and first real cycle charting... I spotted most of yesterday. It got heavier and heavier as the day went on (brown to pink to red), so I needed to wear a pad to bed (I went to bed at like 8:30 because cramps). Would you call yesterday CD1 or today? Today is absolutely heavy flow.
I would count it as today.
I learned on TTTC yesterday that if full red flow starts after 9pm (some will even argue 5pm), count CD1 as the following day.
That's an interesting tidbit. I will count today as CD1 as I did originally, in that case. Thank you for the info. I really wouldn't have said there was actual flow until I woke up with DD around midnight.
hate to ask because maybe I missed the post explaining it somewhere, but is "validating feels" the same as love tits? When I clicked the heart I could have sworn it still said "gave love tits"... but now it doesn't... LOL silly? but this is the newbie playdate after all
hate to ask because maybe I missed the post explaining it somewhere, but is "validating feels" the same as love tits? When I clicked the heart I could have sworn it still said "gave love tits"... but now it doesn't... LOL silly? but this is the newbie playdate after all
hate to ask because maybe I missed the post explaining it somewhere, but is "validating feels" the same as love tits? When I clicked the heart I could have sworn it still said "gave love tits"... but now it doesn't... LOL silly? but this is the newbie playdate after all
hate to ask because maybe I missed the post explaining it somewhere, but is "validating feels" the same as love tits? When I clicked the heart I could have sworn it still said "gave love tits"... but now it doesn't... LOL silly? but this is the newbie playdate after all
Yes it's the same thing. And now we all give fucks. lol
ETA: whoops. joy already answered you. I'm drunk. Don't mind me.
Post by moutonrouge on Jan 25, 2015 19:08:20 GMT -5
Another newbie question: The new edition of TCOYF is coming out in July. If you weren't planning to start trying until well after July, would you wait to buy the new edition or just get the older one? The price doesn't seem drastically different - maybe $3 more. The description says there will be updated information on lots of topics, new pictures/sample charts, and these 6 new chapters: Three Prevalent Conditions—Endometriosis, Ovarian Cysts and PCOS; Natural Ways to Balance Your Hormones; Preserving Your Future Fertility; Miscarriages; Idiopathic Infertility; Causes of Unusual Bleeding. The other main upgrade is that they are making a Kindle version.
Post by anonymouseliza on Jan 25, 2015 19:12:40 GMT -5
It depends on whether or not I might consider charting prior to ttc. If that were possible (not on hormonal birth control, for example), then I'd get the other. The extra stuff doesn't seem to be generally helpful, outside of the potential pictures/charts, unless you are facing one of those specific instances. And if you were, well, your library will probably have it and you can borrow for free for that particular info.
Another newbie question: The new edition of TCOYF is coming out in July. If you weren't planning to start trying until well after July, would you wait to buy the new edition or just get the older one? The price doesn't seem drastically different - maybe $3 more. The description says there will be updated information on lots of topics, new pictures/sample charts, and these 6 new chapters: Three Prevalent Conditions—Endometriosis, Ovarian Cysts and PCOS; Natural Ways to Balance Your Hormones; Preserving Your Future Fertility; Miscarriages; Idiopathic Infertility; Causes of Unusual Bleeding. The other main upgrade is that they are making a Kindle version.
Personally I would wait. If the information and data is going to be updated I would like that. Also, the new chapters would make it worth it to me. Basics of temping and charting can be found on FF.
NSAID question. I take Motrin maybe twice a week due to inflammation in my knuckles and ankles to help me sleep. Last night as I reached for the bottle I remembered that it interferes with conception... eff. Tylenol does nothing for me in this regard (it never has -- even as a kid, tylenol never helped reduce my fevers, my mom had to give me ibuprofen). Does anyone have any good alternatives? I don't want to mess things up, but I seriously can't sleep some nights without it.
Another newbie question: The new edition of TCOYF is coming out in July. If you weren't planning to start trying until well after July, would you wait to buy the new edition or just get the older one? The price doesn't seem drastically different - maybe $3 more. The description says there will be updated information on lots of topics, new pictures/sample charts, and these 6 new chapters: Three Prevalent Conditions—Endometriosis, Ovarian Cysts and PCOS; Natural Ways to Balance Your Hormones; Preserving Your Future Fertility; Miscarriages; Idiopathic Infertility; Causes of Unusual Bleeding. The other main upgrade is that they are making a Kindle version.
Really?
REALLY?
I will hold off complete judgment until it comes out and I see what she says, but I hope like hell she consulted people that are actually- what's that word? Oh yes. Doctors.
NSAID question. I take Motrin maybe twice a week due to inflammation in my knuckles and ankles to help me sleep. Last night as I reached for the bottle I remembered that it interferes with conception... eff. Tylenol does nothing for me in this regard (it never has -- even as a kid, tylenol never helped reduce my fevers, my mom had to give me ibuprofen). Does anyone have any good alternatives? I don't want to mess things up, but I seriously can't sleep some nights without it.
I think it 'may' interfere with implantation. But this is one where I think you have to evaluate the bigger picture and look at the macro. Lots and lots and lots and lots of women get pregnant without dropping NSAID's and or other things that thereotically interfere with pregnancy. If this is what is necessary to help you get adequate sleep, I think it may be something you just need to accept. Have you talked with a doctor about alternatives?
Another newbie question: The new edition of TCOYF is coming out in July. If you weren't planning to start trying until well after July, would you wait to buy the new edition or just get the older one? The price doesn't seem drastically different - maybe $3 more. The description says there will be updated information on lots of topics, new pictures/sample charts, and these 6 new chapters: Three Prevalent Conditions—Endometriosis, Ovarian Cysts and PCOS; Natural Ways to Balance Your Hormones; Preserving Your Future Fertility; Miscarriages; Idiopathic Infertility; Causes of Unusual Bleeding. The other main upgrade is that they are making a Kindle version.
Really?
REALLY?
I will hold off complete judgment until it comes out and I see what she says, but I hope like hell she consulted people that are actually- what's that word? Oh yes. Doctors.
My eyebrows went up a bit at preserving your future fertility as well.
NSAID question. I take Motrin maybe twice a week due to inflammation in my knuckles and ankles to help me sleep. Last night as I reached for the bottle I remembered that it interferes with conception... eff. Tylenol does nothing for me in this regard (it never has -- even as a kid, tylenol never helped reduce my fevers, my mom had to give me ibuprofen). Does anyone have any good alternatives? I don't want to mess things up, but I seriously can't sleep some nights without it.
I think it 'may' interfere with implantation. But this is one where I think you have to evaluate the bigger picture and look at the macro. Lots and lots and lots and lots of women get pregnant without dropping NSAID's and or other things that thereotically interfere with pregnancy. If this is what is necessary to help you get adequate sleep, I think it may be something you just need to accept. Have you talked with a doctor about alternatives?
Thanks -- not yet, it's on my list of questions for my next visit...
NSAID question. I take Motrin maybe twice a week due to inflammation in my knuckles and ankles to help me sleep. Last night as I reached for the bottle I remembered that it interferes with conception... eff. Tylenol does nothing for me in this regard (it never has -- even as a kid, tylenol never helped reduce my fevers, my mom had to give me ibuprofen). Does anyone have any good alternatives? I don't want to mess things up, but I seriously can't sleep some nights without it.
I have a lot of issues with back and SI joint pain. I try to only use Tylenol around O and implantation time full knowing it could not make any difference. Tylenol doesn't do much for me either. I'd look into alternative pain relief like heat, ice, creams, oils, etc. I use Past Tense by Doterra (not spamming!) for my neck and shoulders and it's helpful.
I think it 'may' interfere with implantation. But this is one where I think you have to evaluate the bigger picture and look at the macro. Lots and lots and lots and lots of women get pregnant without dropping NSAID's and or other things that thereotically interfere with pregnancy. If this is what is necessary to help you get adequate sleep, I think it may be something you just need to accept. Have you talked with a doctor about alternatives?
Thanks -- not yet, it's on my list of questions for my next visit...
Alternative medicine may be helpful, especially short term. It might be worth investrgating, if it will set your mind at ease.
Post by housecarder on Jan 26, 2015 7:43:55 GMT -5
I know you can have a short LH surge, but is a long one ok too? I had a negative OPK on Thursday and Friday (I had lines but they were lighter than the control) but then Saturday both lines were the same color, and then Sunday and today they were darker than the control. Is 3 days + normal? I know at my follicle check on Friday that I had several mature ones. Would that cause a high LH surge?
Hi everyone! I have a newbie question. I charted for 4 months before getting pregnant last time and was shocked to get a BFP during our first month TTC (we then lost the baby at 15.5 weeks, but we are hoping to start TTC again in February or March).
My question is about ovulation, because TCOYF doesn't cover this one element in my chart, and I can't find anything quite like it. I've heard of the ovulation "dip", but this is slightly different.
Every month, my BBT hovers around 97.5 CDs 1-18. It shoots up to 98.4 on CD 19, drops way down to 97.2 on CD 20, rises again to 97.5 on CD 21, and finally reaches and maintains the 98+ range from CD 22 to 30.
When does this mean I ovulated? On CD 18, before the first CD 19 temperature spike, or CD 21, the day before my BBT stays consistently high.
FWIW, the month I got pregnant we only DTD on CD 17 because we were both really sick with a bad cold that week! (Also, this is a really short luteal phase, no? 8 days?)
The other day, I think it was the the TWW thread that asked about how adventurous you are, which got me thinking. Will any of the following hurt one's chances of getting KU.
1. non-TTC approved lube (not spermicidal obviously, but not preseed either), used only on the outside bits for external stimulation.
2. vibrating double looped cock rings - the type where one ring goes around the twig, and the other ring goes around the berries. Maybe we shake his swimmers up too much, and they get all confused and disoriented.
3. The order of the O. Me first, him first. Multiple O's etc.
FWIW, I think this is a good thread. It will give some good results for people who have questions and want to use the search function.
Oh my. Has this been covered already? Is this better for him? For you? What's your O situation with a device like this?
It's more for him. Ours does have a rubbery bull head that connects the two rings and sticks out. The horns vibrate and are supposed to give clitoral action. (like a manly version of the rabbit's ears) The only way the horns work for me is with doggy style though.
H seems to really like it and it's his go-to toy. It gives him very intense orgasms.
Hi everyone! I have a newbie question. I charted for 4 months before getting pregnant last time and was shocked to get a BFP during our first month TTC (we then lost the baby at 15.5 weeks, but we are hoping to start TTC again in February or March).
My question is about ovulation, because TCOYF doesn't cover this one element in my chart, and I can't find anything quite like it. I've heard of the ovulation "dip", but this is slightly different.
Every month, my BBT hovers around 97.5 CDs 1-18. It shoots up to 98.4 on CD 19, drops way down to 97.2 on CD 20, rises again to 97.5 on CD 21, and finally reaches and maintains the 98+ range from CD 22 to 30.
When does this mean I ovulated? On CD 18, before the first CD 19 temperature spike, or CD 21, the day before my BBT stays consistently high.
FWIW, the month I got pregnant we only DTD on CD 17 because we were both really sick with a bad cold that week! (Also, this is a really short luteal phase, no? 8 days?)
What does FertilityFriend say? Are you charting a secondary sign?
Hi everyone! I have a newbie question. I charted for 4 months before getting pregnant last time and was shocked to get a BFP during our first month TTC (we then lost the baby at 15.5 weeks, but we are hoping to start TTC again in February or March).
My question is about ovulation, because TCOYF doesn't cover this one element in my chart, and I can't find anything quite like it. I've heard of the ovulation "dip", but this is slightly different.
Every month, my BBT hovers around 97.5 CDs 1-18. It shoots up to 98.4 on CD 19, drops way down to 97.2 on CD 20, rises again to 97.5 on CD 21, and finally reaches and maintains the 98+ range from CD 22 to 30.
When does this mean I ovulated? On CD 18, before the first CD 19 temperature spike, or CD 21, the day before my BBT stays consistently high.
FWIW, the month I got pregnant we only DTD on CD 17 because we were both really sick with a bad cold that week! (Also, this is a really short luteal phase, no? 8 days?)
What does FertilityFriend say? Are you charting a secondary sign?
I was using Kindara, and I think it predicted I would O on CD 18, but I don't know if it would "know" about the dip-rise-dip-rise thing. My secondary signs are totally not there. As in, my CM has never been EW, ever. And I got pregnant.
What does FertilityFriend say? Are you charting a secondary sign?
I was using Kindara, and I think it predicted I would O on CD 18, but I don't know if it would "know" about the dip-rise-dip-rise thing. My secondary signs are totally not there. As in, my CM has never been EW, ever. And I got pregnant.
Put your temps into FertilityFriend. Its entire purpose is to look at your patterns and confirm your ovulation day. Yes, it can handle the rises and falls you speak of, especially if your provide a secondary sign.
Secondary signs can be CM, CP or OPKs. Using both together is the most accurate way.
If Kindara can't confirm ovulation, then it's useless to you.
I was using Kindara, and I think it predicted I would O on CD 18, but I don't know if it would "know" about the dip-rise-dip-rise thing. My secondary signs are totally not there. As in, my CM has never been EW, ever. And I got pregnant.
Put your temps into FertilityFriend. Its entire purpose is to look at your patterns and confirm your ovulation day. Yes, it can handle the rises and falls you speak of, especially if your provide a secondary sign.
Secondary signs can be CM, CP or OPKs. Using both together is the most accurate way.
If Kindara can't confirm ovulation, then it's useless to you.
I guess I need to switch to FF and OPKs when we start TTC again. I can't for the life of me feel CP enough to track it, and like I said, my CM tracking was useless. Thank you!
I know you can have a short LH surge, but is a long one ok too? I had a negative OPK on Thursday and Friday (I had lines but they were lighter than the control) but then Saturday both lines were the same color, and then Sunday and today they were darker than the control. Is 3 days + normal? I know at my follicle check on Friday that I had several mature ones. Would that cause a high LH surge?
I can't say what would cause a long surge, I just wanted to comment that I also get multiple days of +. I only get + with FMU, and this cycle I had a + 3 mornings in a row. The 3rd + was on the same day I got CH in FF, so it looks like my surge was CD 18-19, and I must have caught left over LH the morning of CD20.
Like I said, no thoughts on the cause. Just wanted to let you know you weren't the only one.
Oh my. Has this been covered already? Is this better for him? For you? What's your O situation with a device like this?
It's more for him. Ours does have a rubbery bull head that connects the two rings and sticks out. The horns vibrate and are supposed to give clitoral action. (like a manly version of the rabbit's ears) The only way the horns work for me is with doggy style though.
H seems to really like it and it's his go-to toy. It gives him very intense orgasms.
Put your temps into FertilityFriend. Its entire purpose is to look at your patterns and confirm your ovulation day. Yes, it can handle the rises and falls you speak of, especially if your provide a secondary sign.
Secondary signs can be CM, CP or OPKs. Using both together is the most accurate way.
If Kindara can't confirm ovulation, then it's useless to you.
I guess I need to switch to FF and OPKs when we start TTC again. I can't for the life of me feel CP enough to track it, and like I said, my CM tracking was useless. Thank you!
Joy is spot on and adding in a secondary sign will definitely help not only pinpoint ovulation date but give you a heads up to help with timing. I will add that I consistently have a random little roller coaster of temps happen in my cycles, and FF only marks me as having ovulated on the day before the temps stayed higher. I think I've heard that it's 3 temps higher than the previous 6. There are some occasions where the roller coaster causes FF to be unsure until the temps have been high for a while, but by now I've gotten pretty good at recognizing what's going on w/o FF's help.
Don't want to start a seperate thread for this but not sure if it is a newbie question or not......
My normal time to temp is 6:45 am which is my default time in FF. I am switching positions at work which means M-Th I need to be up at 5:15 instead and F-S I would get up/temp at 6:45. I am in my TWW and this starts tomorrow. How should I handle this in FF? Once I get trained I go back to getting up at 6:45. I don't want a lot of open circles but don't want to mess up my chart partway through a cycle if I change my default time. Help
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