(NGKUR) So this happened...

[SheilaTheTank]

12 y.o. tries to poison mother twice because her cell phone was taken away. Thoughts?


abcnews.go.com/US/12-year-girl-accused-poison-mother-taking-iphone/story?id=29807372

[samanthasays]

Um who the fuck doesn't notice bleach in their drink? Was mama drinking cheap gin?

[Deleted]

Mar 24, 2015 10:01:55 GMT -5 W said:

There has to be more to the story. I don't want to call her spoiled to find out she's been abused or has a mental illness.

This. That story doesn't say much. It's a terrible thing to happen, but we're only hearing a tiny snippet of one side of this story. There's more that's not being said. 

[piccyami]

Mar 24, 2015 10:04:09 GMT -5 @led said:

Mar 24, 2015 10:01:55 GMT -5 W said:

There has to be more to the story. I don't want to call her spoiled to find out she's been abused or has a mental illness.

This. That story doesn't say much. It's a terrible thing to happen, but we're only hearing a tiny snippet of one side of this story. There's more that's not being said. 

It sounds like there's a lot more to the story, but we're not going to hear it.  I started to read the comments, but had to stop pretty quickly.

[♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪]

Mar 24, 2015 10:02:33 GMT -5 samanthasays said:

Um who the fuck doesn't notice bleach in their drink? Was mama drinking cheap gin?

I know this is a serious story, but this made me laugh out loud.

[brettanomyces]

Way more questions than answers in this. I hope for everyone's sake the investigation also looks at the family environment and the kid's history of behavior. Whether the girl has some type of personality disorder or her mom is abusive, or any other explanation, hopefully they will get what help they need before more serious harm is done.

[goldenlove3]

These stories make me so sad. There is a 15 year old girl in my area that planned to kill her whole family after they told her she couldn't date her older boyfriend. The texts between the girl and her bf got released and they were so disturbing.

[diamondsndaisies]

Whoa. I think there are more underling issues there. 

[westisleflower]

What a horrible situation. With her doing it twice, and it being premeditated, I'm thinking abuse and not mental illness but you never know.

[Lollipop]

I think there might be other factors at play, butthat is still pretty messed up.

[TheEleventhHour]

I agree that there is likely more to the story. It is a sad story all around.

[piccyami]

Mar 24, 2015 10:50:41 GMT -5 W said:

Mar 24, 2015 10:15:00 GMT -5 piccyami said:

It sounds like there's a lot more to the story, but we're not going to hear it.  I started to read the comments, but had to stop pretty quickly.

Comment sections are the worst.

I read like 2 comments and had to close the window.

[BrewGirl]

The comments I read were people blaming Apple for the incident and saying a 12 year old should not have an IPhone to begin with. My daughter is 4 and has her own IPad for educational games and such. It's just the world we live in today. People need to get over that. But I digress.

In regards to the little girl, most of you are right. There could be many other factors going on that are not being shared and the overall situation is extremely sad.

[SheilaTheTank]

Mar 24, 2015 11:24:55 GMT -5 BrewGirl said:

The comments I read were people blaming Apple for the incident and saying a 12 year old should not have an IPhone to begin with. My daughter is 4 and has her own IPad for educational games and such. It's just the world we live in today. People need to get over that. But I digress.

In regards to the little girl, most of you are right. There could be many other factors going on that are not being shared and the overall situation is extremely sad.

I don't think Apple is to blame and that mindset is idiotic. Kids will have toys that an older generation will not approve of. For my generation it was TV and phone in your room. 

I think the question that should be asked is why did the girl react so harshly to it getting taken away. Plotting to kill your parents is not normal and screams of some deep underlying issue. I also wonder if there were any other signs observed by her parents or her teachers that could have alerted them sooner. Most mentally healthy children don't go from being a perfect little angel one day to pouring bleach in your mom's water the next. 

[heatherj9603]

Mar 24, 2015 10:28:24 GMT -5 goldenlove3 said:

These stories make me so sad. There is a 15 year old girl in my area that planned to kill her whole family after they told her she couldn't date her older boyfriend. The texts between the girl and her bf got released and they were so disturbing.

I remember hearing about that story! Crazy stuff. 

[tina515]

There are some crazy stories coming out of CO right now. I think it's stupid to blame Apple, and some of the comments even referenced the "apple" in the bible and the lack of a father as being to blame. It's sad to say, but I do hope there are factors like mental illness or abuse at play here. Otherwise this little girl is just completely effed up.

[SheilaTheTank]

Mar 24, 2015 13:21:13 GMT -5 tina515 said:

There are some crazy stories coming out of CO right now. I think it's stupid to blame Apple, and some of the comments even referenced the "apple" in the bible and the lack of a father as being to blame. It's sad to say, but I do hope there are factors like mental illness or abuse at play here. Otherwise this little girl is just completely effed up.

ummm... what??? People will spew whatever shit comes into their head. SMH

[moirin8]

Mar 24, 2015 11:24:55 GMT -5 BrewGirl said:

The comments I read were people blaming Apple for the incident and saying a 12 year old should not have an IPhone to begin with. My daughter is 4 and has her own IPad for educational games and such. It's just the world we live in today. People need to get over that. But I digress.

In regards to the little girl, most of you are right. There could be many other factors going on that are not being shared and the overall situation is extremely sad.

When I upgraded my phone I gave my one year old my 4s for the same reason. She has to learn technology.

[cabgirl]

Mar 24, 2015 15:44:14 GMT -5 moirin8 said:

Mar 24, 2015 11:24:55 GMT -5 BrewGirl said:

The comments I read were people blaming Apple for the incident and saying a 12 year old should not have an IPhone to begin with. My daughter is 4 and has her own IPad for educational games and such. It's just the world we live in today. People need to get over that. But I digress.

In regards to the little girl, most of you are right. There could be many other factors going on that are not being shared and the overall situation is extremely sad.

When I upgraded my phone I gave my one year old my 4s for the same reason. She has to learn technology.

Is this a joke?

[Deleted]

Mar 24, 2015 16:57:28 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 15:44:14 GMT -5 moirin8 said:

When I upgraded my phone I gave my one year old my 4s for the same reason. She has to learn technology.

Is this a joke?

Why would it be a joke?

[cabgirl]

Mar 24, 2015 17:00:41 GMT -5 @led said:

Mar 24, 2015 16:57:28 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Is this a joke?

Why would it be a joke?

There is no reason in the world to give a one year old a smartphone. I'm not saying there's any harm in it, but what possible purpose could it serve? That thing is going to end up a teething toy. Hopefully it was cleaned thoroughly.

[pismoduo]

Mar 24, 2015 17:12:44 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 17:00:41 GMT -5 @led said:

Why would it be a joke?

There is no reason in the world to give a one year old a smartphone. I'm not saying there's any harm in it, but what possible purpose could it serve? That thing is going to end up a teething toy. Hopefully it was cleaned thoroughly.

Friends of ours had an old iphone (or maybe it was an ipod touch) that they put into a little holder for their daughter when she was that age. They put all sorts of little educational games on it and used it with her to play them and work on her hand/eye coordination and stuff.

[cabgirl]

Mar 24, 2015 17:23:45 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

Mar 24, 2015 17:12:44 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

There is no reason in the world to give a one year old a smartphone. I'm not saying there's any harm in it, but what possible purpose could it serve? That thing is going to end up a teething toy. Hopefully it was cleaned thoroughly.

Friends of ours had an old iphone (or maybe it was an ipod touch) that they put into a little holder for their daughter when she was that age. They put all sorts of little educational games on it and used it with her to play them and work on her hand/eye coordination and stuff.

That sounds fine. I'm personally of the opinion that kids shouldn't own smartphones until they're old enough to work and pay for them, but I get that I'm in the minority here.

[JulietRose]

Mar 24, 2015 17:29:16 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 17:23:45 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

Friends of ours had an old iphone (or maybe it was an ipod touch) that they put into a little holder for their daughter when she was that age. They put all sorts of little educational games on it and used it with her to play them and work on her hand/eye coordination and stuff.

That sounds fine. I'm personally of the opinion that kids shouldn't own smartphones until they're old enough to work and pay for them, but I get that I'm in the minority here.

You're not on your own. I have the same opinions, but then again, I don't have kids so I don't know what I'm going to do. But I hope to emulate my parents and not give them technology until they are older. I grew up without it and I think I turned out fine....dundundun. 

[cheshie6]

Mar 24, 2015 17:29:16 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 17:23:45 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

Friends of ours had an old iphone (or maybe it was an ipod touch) that they put into a little holder for their daughter when she was that age. They put all sorts of little educational games on it and used it with her to play them and work on her hand/eye coordination and stuff.

That sounds fine. I'm personally of the opinion that kids shouldn't own smartphones until they're old enough to work and pay for them, but I get that I'm in the minority here.

I'm 100% with you on this!  I get that there are a lot of benefits to smartphones and tablets but I feel like kids are losing something too.  I do think cell phones have a purpose especially if you have kids who play sports, or do lots of activities may need one but I don't think they need smartphones per se. I wonder how many kids would have a smartphone if they had to pay for the plan themselves? 

[BrewGirl]

Mar 24, 2015 17:12:44 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 17:00:41 GMT -5 @led said:

Why would it be a joke?

There is no reason in the world to give a one year old a smartphone. I'm not saying there's any harm in it, but what possible purpose could it serve? That thing is going to end up a teething toy. Hopefully it was cleaned thoroughly.

My daughter's had my old iPhones for as long as I can remember. When she was one, she had my old one. There are many toddler friendly app games that just require a touch of the finger to hear sounds, change colors etc. She loved it.

[Lollipop]

Mar 24, 2015 19:20:57 GMT -5 BrewGirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 17:12:44 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

There is no reason in the world to give a one year old a smartphone. I'm not saying there's any harm in it, but what possible purpose could it serve? That thing is going to end up a teething toy. Hopefully it was cleaned thoroughly.

My daughter's had my old iPhones for as long as I can remember. When she was one, she had my old one. There are many toddler friendly app games that just require a touch of the finger to hear sounds, change colors etc. She loved it.

Smudge got my dad's old iPhone when he was about 1. He figured out how to play music on it.

[moirin8]

Mar 24, 2015 16:57:28 GMT -5 cabgirl said:

Mar 24, 2015 15:44:14 GMT -5 moirin8 said:

When I upgraded my phone I gave my one year old my 4s for the same reason. She has to learn technology.

Is this a joke?

Nope. Mostly it sits at the bottom of her toy box uncharged. I'm going to get a docking station for it and play her music on it. I have a couple of apps in it for that. And it had educational apps for children her age. It has a case just for her too. It protects the phone if she chooses to put it in her mouth.

Eta a pic.

[aprilz81]

Mar 24, 2015 15:44:14 GMT -5 moirin8 said:

Mar 24, 2015 11:24:55 GMT -5 BrewGirl said:

The comments I read were people blaming Apple for the incident and saying a 12 year old should not have an IPhone to begin with. My daughter is 4 and has her own IPad for educational games and such. It's just the world we live in today. People need to get over that. But I digress.

In regards to the little girl, most of you are right. There could be many other factors going on that are not being shared and the overall situation is extremely sad.

When I upgraded my phone I gave my one year old my 4s for the same reason. She has to learn technology.

No, she can learn technology at an appropriate age.  What she "learns" now will be drastically different in 2 years from now, let alone 5-6.  Screen time isn't great for young kids.

[moirin8]

Mar 25, 2015 21:16:51 GMT -5 aprilz81 said:

Mar 24, 2015 15:44:14 GMT -5 moirin8 said:

When I upgraded my phone I gave my one year old my 4s for the same reason. She has to learn technology.

No, she can learn technology at an appropriate age.  What she "learns" now will be drastically different in 2 years from now, let alone 5-6.  Screen time isn't great for young kids.

Like I said it spends most of the time at the bottom of her toy box uncharged. She's not interested in it really and I don't push it. Every once in a while I'll bust it out for letters or numbers or something. But that's rare. It'll probably just live on the docking station when I get it.