Just read that TLC pulled the show. It had to be done. They pulled other shows for things like this and they couldn't not be reprimanded for this.
WOW. I'm actually shocked. I thought they just might not include Josh in the show anymore. Crazy...
I've been lurking around this topic for awhile today because I'm bored. Apparently they haven't pulled the show completely. They pulled the episodes that are running or scheduled to run, which are re runs, but according to where I was lurking they could still be filming.
Wow jennmm, I can't imagine how uncomfortable that must have been. I'm glad nothing really bad happened, but to be put in that situation to begin with is something that should just never happen.
Wow jennmm, I can't imagine how uncomfortable that must have been. I'm glad nothing really bad happened, but to be put in that situation to begin with is something that should just never happen.
I agree. I haven't really followed the story that much but I sincerely hope they got the girls the help they needed. I also hope that they got him help.
Post by jodielyn10 on May 22, 2015 15:10:28 GMT -5
I think they're going to have a big problem if they don't outright cancel the show. I saw somewhere that Mamma June would sue if 19 kids wasn't canceled, and honestly, I don't think I'd blame her.
Also, the family friend that supposedly counseled Josh after he admitted to doing these things? Resigned from his "faith based healing clinic" amid reports of sexual harassment.
jodielyn10, I agree. I think they are going to have a lot of backlash if they do not. I think even Mama June from that awful show Here Comes Honey Boo Boo was threatening to sue since her show was cancelled for a similar thing. If I remember correctly, she was dating someone or had in the past of a guy that was in prison for sexual assault.
jodielyn10, when you say "she" who do you mean? One of the victims? Because as of yet none of their names have been released... but I'm curious of who would sue for the show to be cancelled.
As of right now they already have next season filmed and have been showing previews for it already... I wonder if they would just stop filming, and then stop the show after the season which is already filmed, or if they would just stop airing all together (even re-runs). It would be a little extreme, but it's been done by other networks before after blow-ups... think Paula Dean and Food Network, it's almost as if she never existed on their network after that debacle - even though she had thousands of shows that rerun prior to that.
jodielyn10, when you say "she" who do you mean? One of the victims? Because as of yet none of their names have been released... but I'm curious of who would sue for the show to be cancelled.
As of right now they already have next season filmed and have been showing previews for it already... I wonder if they would just stop filming, and then stop the show after the season which is already filmed, or if they would just stop airing all together (even re-runs). It would be a little extreme, but it's been done by other networks before after blow-ups... think Paula Dean and Food Network, it's almost as if she never existed on their network after that debacle - even though she had thousands of shows that rerun prior to that.
With honey boo boo, they straight cancelled the show. However, my H heard they are coming back and it's a honey boo boo moves to Hollywood or something like that.
Those poor girls. I can't believe that they got them proper help. Probably just told them to pray on it. Then they probably have to forgive their brother just like that or fear backlash. I also feel like they are supporting Josh more than the girls. It's all so strange.
Those poor girls. I can't believe that they got them proper help. Probably just told them to pray on it. Then they probably have to forgive their brother just like that or fear backlash. I also feel like they are supporting Josh more than the girls. It's all so strange.
Its not that strange when you think about the way those poor girls were raised
Those poor girls. I can't believe that they got them proper help. Probably just told them to pray on it. Then they probably have to forgive their brother just like that or fear backlash. I also feel like they are supporting Josh more than the girls. It's all so strange.
Its not that strange when you think about the way those poor girls were raised
I just find how they are raised strange. Why would you do all this to your kids? Maybe I can't understand is a better way to put it.
Its not that strange when you think about the way those poor girls were raised
I just find how they are raised strange. Why would you do all this to your kids? Maybe I can't understand is a better way to put it.
I think what MM is saying is that it is their mentality towards women. Women are only their to produce babies and cook/clean. The man makes all the decisions and is the woman's "overlord" (father until she marries it becomes a husband). If you watch the special's they had Michelle talking about how it was a woman's fault that a man has impure thoughts. A woman's dress and action "cause" a man to have impure thoughts.
I just find how they are raised strange. Why would you do all this to your kids? Maybe I can't understand is a better way to put it.
I think what MM is saying is that it is their mentality towards women. Women are only their to produce babies and cook/clean. The man makes all the decisions and is the woman's "overlord" (father until she marries it becomes a husband). If you watch the special's they had Michelle talking about how it was a woman's fault that a man has impure thoughts. A woman's dress and action "cause" a man to have impure thoughts.
Those poor girls. I can't believe that they got them proper help. Probably just told them to pray on it. Then they probably have to forgive their brother just like that or fear backlash. I also feel like they are supporting Josh more than the girls. It's all so strange.
Its not that strange when you think about the way those poor girls were raised
I think part of the reason that's happening (the red) too is because it's still not been confirmed it's the sisters... obviously everyone knows it has to be - because where else would he have been where underage girls were sleeping that he could sneak in to do such things. Their names have obviously been redacted and no one has said outright who it was. If they showed support for their daughters it would just confirm publicly what everyone already knows and it would put the girls in the spotlight which is likely what they're trying to avoid. They don't want to point out which girls were affected by this.... plus they were all underage so legally they aren't allowed to name them publically...
All I'm saying is they are strange and I don't understand them. I have seen the show, but don't watch it religiously (see what I did there) and do understand how they treat males vs. females.
I really wish I hadn't chosen the words "how strange" (basically used as a filler bc I can't understand who in their right mind, which they probably aren't, would treat their family like this) because now I've put myself in a position where I look and feel like an idiot.
I do stand by my point about the girls though- I wish one of them was strong enough to stand up for themselves and the others.
Post by mommymadness on May 23, 2015 10:14:18 GMT -5
Should josh not have been protected/ had his name publicly put out there because he was a child too at the time? I feel like the sisters that were involved would be obvious as there are only some that would be old enough to have boobs... All this just makes me sick!! Blah!
Post by aylafsu1881 on May 23, 2015 12:01:00 GMT -5
trixi282, mommymadness, It was the sisters and that is confirmed in the police report. It says that victums X, Y, Z, A were residents in Michelle and Jim Bob Duggars house. The 5th victum is from another family and is presumed to be a babysitter. It says she was molested while sleeping on the Duggars couch one night.
Here is a link with the police report. If you read page 11 it has the details there. One of the vitums has requested the report be destroyed since she is still a MINOR. This means that she had to be 4-6 years old Josh molested her. It is just sick what this family covers up.
I can't see myself allowing someone who molested my child to remain in the house with him/her. To me it negates what the victim is going through. I understand he was a minor, so there may have been a limit to what legally could be done, but I couldn't sleep at night knowing I was potentially exposing a vulnerable child to having the same thing done again or knowingly exposing other children to it. Run-on sentences anyone?
It blows my mind that Josh states in the apology that he realized he needed to change his ways or he would ruin HIS life. Umm what about the lives of the girls he was molesting? Pretty sure he was ruining their lives foremost.
All I'm saying is they are strange and I don't understand them. I have seen the show, but don't watch it religiously (see what I did there) and do understand how they treat males vs. females.
I really wish I hadn't chosen the words "how strange" (basically used as a filler bc I can't understand who in their right mind, which they probably aren't, would treat their family like this) because now I've put myself in a position where I look and feel like an idiot.
I do stand by my point about the girls though- I wish one of them was strong enough to stand up for themselves and the others.
Oh, don't feel like an idiot - I never meant my comment in a way to make you feel I was saying your comments were strange
I too think it's strange the way they're supporting him so much and not saying even one word about the girls.... And I completely agree with wanting one of the girls to stand up for themselves. They are walked all over, all the time - and this is just the worst one we've now heard about, but it happens regularly and you see that in the show. I just started watching it more since I've been on bed rest, and obviously have all the time in the world... but it's like a train wreck I can't look away from - I side eye a lot of the stuff they do, but have never fully been disgusted with them until now.
aylafsu1881, I saw the police report, but only skimmed it - I knew it said the incident happened under their roof I didn't see the part where it said they were residents... but it's obvious of course with all of the stuff listed. I was thinking the one who was not a 'resident' that people have been talking about was maybe cousin Amy - but a babysitter would make sense too I suppose. Doesn't matter who it was, that's terrible.
And to see that one is STILL a minor?!?! I didn't hear that until just now, but it makes me sick.... not that it wasn't before but damn...
Should josh not have been protected/ had his name publicly put out there because he was a child too at the time? I feel like the sisters that were involved would be obvious as there are only some that would be old enough to have boobs... All this just makes me sick!! Blah!
I believe you're right that because he was a minor at the time he too shouldn't be named, but I'm not sure how they got around that now that he's an adult?! But, yes, in the police report his name is also redacted, so technically yes.... not sure if any of our lawyers could weight in on this one....
Post by heatherbee on May 23, 2015 19:10:44 GMT -5
The way I read the police report it sounded like it was the younger girls. The cop asked the girls their interests and they seemed like things younger kids would say. Obviously I'm just assuming.
It's just a heartbreaking situation for the girls who were victims but made to feel what happened to them didn't really matter, based on how their own parents responded. It makes me sick.
OK so I'm getting this from the comments in a HuffPost article, so take it with a grain of salt. The commenter is quoting another article:
"Jim Bob told police in 2006 that when Josh returned home in 2003, Jim Bob, accompanied by some of his church elders, took Josh to Arkansas State Trooper, Jim Hutchens. Jim Bob knew Hutchens personally. Hutchens did not take any official action and instead gave Josh a “very stern talk.” As In Touch magazine reports exclusively in this week’s issue, Hutchens is now serving 56-years in prison for child pornography. He took no action on the Duggar case."
If this is true, its even more sick than I imagined. Those poor girls...
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