Post by leenziepops on May 13, 2015 16:45:30 GMT -5
What the heck happened to my gif party thread?!?!?
Although it's been interesting to read all this. Yes this thread was just to celebrate a milestone and not an encouragement to induce labor. It was meant to also be a comfort if someone went into labour right at 37 weeks they can feel better that this is considered full term by most standards. It's common here in Australia to say anything between 37 to 42 is a full term baby.
I will most definitely celebrate 37 weeks because at one point I almost had her at 27 & my goal was to make it to 34! I'm almost 35, so 37 will damn sure be worth celebrating.
Andplusalso, my OB office considers 37-38wks "early term", won't induce before 39 unless medically necessary, but has also said if a baby comes at 37 weeks, they're alright with that.
I have been watching these shenanigans from mobile all afternoon and, now that I'm home:
1. I can think of more than a few people who were 39+ babies and grew up to be dumb as a box of fucking hammers so anyone who wants to argue that IQ theory can suck it.
2. Considering that at 33 weeks my doc discovered I was already significantly effaced and starting to dilate and I'm a continuing to progress with a baby who is so low he's about to fall out of my vajayjay, you bet your damn ass I'm going to celebrate getting to 37 weeks when it happens, whether it's truly "full term" or not. Semantics have no place in this one for me. Yes, the longer the better, but don't take a shit on my milestone when I reach it.
1. I can think of more than a few people who were 39+ babies and grew up to be dumb as a box of fucking hammers so anyone who wants to argue that IQ theory can suck it.
ETA for some reason my American MFM still recommends me for induction at 37 weeks gestation, and told me that I would be considered full term.. which I just felt unsure about. Hence my research!
Yeah because I was getting worried there as so many people I've seen have said its 37 weeks & I thought they were giving me bogus information. To be honest I won't consider baby full term until he's in my arms
Well as someone who was born at 38 weeks, i've clearly defied odds because I certainly don't have a lower iq than average nor have I had any respiratory problems or developmental delays. I'd like to see evidence of studies on this before scaremongering happens.
Also 37 weeks is a milestone. Yes its nice to be able to let baby "cook" until 40 weeks but thats not always possible. If DRS are recommending sweeps etc at 37 weeks for health reasons then i'd kinda trust them more than dr google. Maybe thats a UO?
I have also defied the odds apparently. I was born at 37 weeks, perfectly healthy. On the smaller side of average weight (around 6lbs) but that's the only exciting medical condition I had. No developmental delays, IQ issues, or respiratory issues (unless my hatred of running counts )
Not that I would induce my baby for convenience (at 37 or at 39 weeks), but there is a difference between being early term and premature.
I may have defined the odds.. Not so sure being born at 28ws I don't have any IQ issues (that I'm aware of) or respiratory issues. The only issue I had was a shortened tendon in my left leg. Everything else is fine.. as far as I'm aware don't hold me too it!
Any interventions at this point re: early delivery will be made with discussion with our respective medical professionals as to what's best for mom and baby,
It would be super cool if this were true. But it just isn't.
On this board and another I post on women are already trying to induce themselves or hurry the baby along. There's a whole post on this page about doing membrane sweeps early on, without any cause for it other than "welp it's been 36/37 weeks" not for the health of mother or baby. Women (and I'm not talking about any active posters here, but who knows about lurkers) do really stupid things to try to induce labor. (On another board there's a woman already pumping and doing nipple stim to try to get the baby to come, and she's not full term yet).
Babies come when they come, and for some that may be earlier than others. As periwinkledaydreams pointed out, at 34 weeks they won't do anything to stop the labor but I think most of us would prefer not to give birth that early. For some reason, at 37 weeks all that concern seems to disappear. Which is exactly why the ACOG came out with the revised definition. Because women were scheduling elective inductions and c-sections before that point and they were not decisions made in the interest of what's best for mom and the baby. Celebrate whatever you want, but I think if anyone started planning to help the baby along at 24 weeks because "hey viability" they'd get the side-eye too.
This was going to be my UO for tomorrow. Can I just C&P and cite you??
2. Considering that at 33 weeks my doc discovered I was already significantly effaced and starting to dilate and I'm a continuing to progress with a baby who is so low he's about to fall out of my vajayjay, you bet your damn ass I'm going to celebrate getting to 37 weeks when it happens, whether it's truly "full term" or not. Semantics have no place in this one for me. Yes, the longer the better, but don't take a shit on my milestone when I reach it.
Cool. Then I take it tomorrow we're having a GIF party celebrating the birth of our children? And Friday is a GIF party celebrating their high school graduations? I mean, I know it hasn't happened yet, but that's just semantics, right?
No one said anything about not celebrating 37 weeks. But I don't remember a similar post celebrating 36 weeks, 35 weeks, 34 weeks, 33 weeks......... This post was specifically about celebrating being full term. Which is not 37 weeks.
2. Considering that at 33 weeks my doc discovered I was already significantly effaced and starting to dilate and I'm a continuing to progress with a baby who is so low he's about to fall out of my vajayjay, you bet your damn ass I'm going to celebrate getting to 37 weeks when it happens, whether it's truly "full term" or not. Semantics have no place in this one for me. Yes, the longer the better, but don't take a shit on my milestone when I reach it.
Cool. Then I take it tomorrow we're having a GIF party celebrating the birth of our children? And Friday is a GIF party celebrating their high school graduations? I mean, I know it hasn't happened yet, but that's just semantics, right?
No one said anything about not celebrating 37 weeks. But I don't remember a similar post celebrating 36 weeks, 35 weeks, 34 weeks, 33 weeks......... This post was specifically about celebrating being full term. Which is not 37 weeks.
I normally really appreciate your input billyhorrible, you often have great information to share and your responses are normally so well written. BUT I don't understand the condescending tone here in this post. Just like how there was a bit of mixed information and opinions about what exactly constituted the start of 3rd trimester, I think this is the same situation. I have been told that it is considered full term if a baby arrives between 37-42 weeks and to prepare for this and 37 weeks is not considered an early baby. For me, I wanted to celebrate that for anyone hitting 37 weeks who share the same feelings of it being a significant milestone as we get closer to the end of our pregnancies.
No one said anything about not celebrating 37 weeks. But I don't remember a similar post celebrating 36 weeks, 35 weeks, 34 weeks, 33 weeks......... This post was specifically about celebrating being full term. Which is not 37 weeks.
Just to play the semantical devil's advocate, if you're in the UK, it most definitely is.
Definitions and guidelines change surrounding these things, and usually with good solid scientific reason. This happened very recently (within 2 years) by 2 boards of medicine in the United States, the ACOG and the SMFM. That doesn't necessarily change and entire definition the world over, overnight. A similar post at 36 weeks or 35 weeks wouldn't make sense, because 36 weeks and 35 weeks were never defined as full term in the US or the UK now or in recent history. This post makes sense, and people hopped on it to celebrate with each other.
No one said anything about not celebrating 37 weeks. But I don't remember a similar post celebrating 36 weeks, 35 weeks, 34 weeks, 33 weeks......... This post was specifically about celebrating being full term. Which is not 37 weeks.
Just to play the semantical devil's advocate, if you're in the UK, it most definitely is.
Definitions and guidelines change surrounding these things, and usually with good solid scientific reason. This happened very recently (within 2 years) by 2 boards of medicine in the United States, the ACOG and the SMFM. That doesn't necessarily change and entire definition the world over, overnight. A similar post at 36 weeks or 35 weeks wouldn't make sense, because 36 weeks and 35 weeks were never defined as full term in the US or the UK now or in recent history. This post makes sense, and people hopped on it to celebrate with each other.
This all over, being in the UK, I am classed as full term at 37 weeks. Its the point where if I went into labour the drs wouldnt try and stop it and my baby wouldnt be taken straight to NICU, unless there were any underlying issues. I suggest people look into things further before making condescending, brash and uninformed comments. This thread was for celebrating a milestone, no one has said yay i'm 37 weeks i'm going to do everything I can to get this baby out of me! We're not fucking stupid. Lighten up jeez.
Post by effthisnoise on May 14, 2015 8:22:59 GMT -5
Hell, I'm excited that I'll hit 35 weeks this weekend. I don't care if 37 weeks is early-term or full-term; when I hit 37, I'm going to be relieved that I've made it that far and that my baby probably won't need NICU time if she arrives after that. For most of us, I think, hitting 37 weeks is a mental milestone and with everything else on our plates, it's nice to take one worry off the table.
No one said anything about not celebrating 37 weeks. But I don't remember a similar post celebrating 36 weeks, 35 weeks, 34 weeks, 33 weeks......... This post was specifically about celebrating being full term. Which is not 37 weeks.
Just to play the semantical devil's advocate, if you're in the UK, it most definitely is.
Definitions and guidelines change surrounding these things, and usually with good solid scientific reason. This happened very recently (within 2 years) by 2 boards of medicine in the United States, the ACOG and the SMFM. That doesn't necessarily change and entire definition the world over, overnight. A similar post at 36 weeks or 35 weeks wouldn't make sense, because 36 weeks and 35 weeks were never defined as full term in the US or the UK now or in recent history. This post makes sense, and people hopped on it to celebrate with each other.
You must have been born after 39 weeks!
billyhorrible, do you need some toilet paper or did that shit come out nice and clean?
Andplusalso, I started having bloody show last night, so if it's ok with you, I'm going to celebrate the other random of 35+4 at the end of today, assuming I get there. Will that milestone also smell like your ass and should I be prepared with air freshener?
Post by poohbearlove on May 14, 2015 9:03:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the reminder that my little 32 weeker in the NICU for the past two weeks might have developmental delays along with all of the other issues that might happen with preemies like lung problems, brain bleeds, heart problems etc. 37 weeks is a wonderful milestone for you ladies to make it to. Congratulations and don't let anyone shit on your healthy baby celebrations.
Thanks for the reminder that my little 32 weeker in the NICU for the past two weeks might have developmental delays along with all of the other issues that might happen with preemies like lung problems, brain bleeds, heart problems etc. 37 weeks is a wonderful milestone for you ladies to make it to. Congratulations and don't let anyone shit on your healthy baby celebrations.
Your LO will be just fine! Don't let ridiculous theories bother you! There are so many preemies who reach their milestones right on time and have no delays or medical issues whatsoever. I hope you both are doing great!
Post by missjenniebean on May 14, 2015 9:18:22 GMT -5
TBH in this whole process where so much can go so wrong at any give time, everyday is a celebration of life. We have seen it multiple times over the course of our journeys where things just go wrong for no apparent reason. No matter what week or day. I could reach 37 weeks tomorrow but something might happen that takes all the happy go lucky no worries thing out of the picture.
So full term or not via someone's studies or opinions, celebrating this day with a healthy baby - preemie or not - born or still cooking - should be all that really matters.
Post by sidneyvicious on May 14, 2015 9:52:56 GMT -5
The fact that it is ideal for babies to be born closer to 40 weeks is not groundbreaking news. It's in all the baby books I've read, every Google search I've done, and even in all the silly pregnancy apps I have on my phone. ANDPLUSALSO, not only is no one here arguing that fact, no one here is talking about doing jumping jacks whilst drinking jalapeno and castor oil martinis at 37 weeks, or whatever the fuck it is people do to get labor jumpstarted. I just think the side-eyes and shit parties are misdirected. Maybe they belong on another board, but not this one.
I don't think anyone here for one second takes for granted the fact that our board's premies are doing so well, and I also know how deeply here everyone has been affected by the losses suffered through the weeks and months we've all been together. Each day has been a milestone for some, and we are known for celebrating those for each other.
My doctor told me the same thing that others have said: At 37 weeks, your baby doesn't get an *automatic* ticket to the NICU. That's a huge deal, and I will side-eye the fuck out of anyone who refuses to see that.
@jimbobcooter I hope your LO stays cooking for you but celebrate every damn day if you want! I know I do. I read this thread in its entirety last night and was surprised that there were such strongly voiced opinions on the development of babies prior to 37 weeks knowing we have several June mamas with outside babies. I know people are entitled to their opinions on all subjects, but I do think there needs to be some more compassion for our mamas going through their time in the NICU, regardless of what week their babies came into the world.
Post by mrsdee1982 on May 14, 2015 11:39:22 GMT -5
I hit 37 weeks today. My OB told me at my appointment on Monday that I am dilating, 50% effaced and baby has dropped to a -1 station. She thinks I could be meeting my little girl within the next week. And she said she's not worried at all. She told me by 37 weeks, baby is considered term, early term, but term none the less, and will most likely be just fine.
33 weeks ago, when I found out I was pregnant again, I cried, because I thought that was going to mean yet another loss for me. I never thought I would get to this point. The point where there is a mostly full grown human inside of me, just waiting to pop out and say hello. So yes, yes I will celebrate the fuck out of this milestone. Now, just because I am 37 weeks today does not mean I am going to go in for a membrane sweep and then run 10 miles while drinking castor oil to try and get her out. She can stay put as long as she wants, but if she were to choose to come today, I would be just fine with that too.
Andplusalso, The Bump app told me today now that I am 37 weeks, baby is full term, and we all still agree that the bump gods are correct about everything, right (insert slight sarcasm here).
Anyone who wants to celebrate this milestone, you get down with your bad selves! Fuck, with everything that this board has been through, all the early losses, the late losses and the premies births, and all of the terrifying scares in between, every fucking milestone should be celebrated without a side eye in sight.
Definitions and guidelines change surrounding these things, and usually with good solid scientific reason. This happened very recently (within 2 years) by 2 boards of medicine in the United States, the ACOG and the SMFM. That doesn't necessarily change and entire definition the world over, overnight. A similar post at 36 weeks or 35 weeks wouldn't make sense, because 36 weeks and 35 weeks were never defined as full term in the US or the UK now or in recent history. This post makes sense, and people hopped on it to celebrate with each other.
This all over, being in the UK, I am classed as full term at 37 weeks. Its the point where if I went into labour the drs wouldnt try and stop it and my baby wouldnt be taken straight to NICU, unless there were any underlying issues. I suggest people look into things further before making condescending, brash and uninformed comments. This thread was for celebrating a milestone, no one has said yay i'm 37 weeks i'm going to do everything I can to get this baby out of me! We're not fucking stupid. Lighten up jeez.
Are you UK too!
& +1 for the above. In the UK that's just how they do it. 37 weeks = full term & as its all I've known and been told by all of my medical professionals, it's hard for me to shift my view and excitement on reaching it as the doctors definitely refer to it as a milestone. They use it as something to refer to when giving consulatations. Whilst I'm open to things being done differently in the U.S I'm just following what I've been told. After my scare last night I know for sure I do not want the baby to come right now as I want him to be happy and stay as long as possible, hopefully without induction if I go overdue. I want him to come when he is good and ready. I'm not going to try and bring on labour in any way, I'm just excited to reach that point & even if he was born now then I'd be okay with that as I'd think well it was just his time. Heck, I even stated above that I won't consider him full-term until he is in my arms I met a woman during my stay at hospital who's water has broken at 23 weeks, she was so strong and I had so much admiration for her, the same as I do for the preemie moms on here. We are all amazing and strong as we are all growing or raising beautiful babies, no matter what time they are born. & this debate could go on forever with articles and beliefs from both sides but really does it matter? Pregnancy & parenthood is a celebration no matter what milestone we're at, no I doubt there will be a GIF party for every week (although it would be fun) but I think the point of the thread was missed a little, it's just about sharing excitement & I feel it turned a little sour . Also I'm 37 weeks today too! & I feel good!
I've not been active all day so just seen all of this.
Thanks for the reminder that my little 32 weeker in the NICU for the past two weeks might have developmental delays along with all of the other issues that might happen with preemies like lung problems, brain bleeds, heart problems etc. 37 weeks is a wonderful milestone for you ladies to make it to. Congratulations and don't let anyone shit on your healthy baby celebrations.
It's okay, I figure that if my two 30-weekers are destined to have low IQs, maybe I can at least teach them not to act like condescending twats on the internet. Assuming they eventually learn how to use a keyboard, of course, because I totally decided to ruin their lives forever by popping them out at 30 weeks.
I love you guys, but reading some of this sucked the joy out of my day. We found out Tinsley could come home tomorrow, and instead of being happy about it like I was 5 min ago, I'm now in tears worrying about her IQ, her lungs, and all sorts of other crap.
I love you guys, but reading some of this sucked the joy out of my day. We found out Tinsley could come home tomorrow, and instead of being happy about it like I was 5 min ago, I'm now in tears worrying about her IQ, her lungs, and all sorts of other crap.
I didn't chime in on this thread when it went in a weird direction, but after UO on Thursday and the further discussion I think everyone agrees some things that were said weren't expressed well and certainly weren't intended to take away from your experiences and all you've been thorough. Congratulations on the massive milestone of bringing Tinsley home! Amazing news and in a few weeks hopefully you'll have put this stress behind you and feel in a routine with your LO. I'd do a AW thread tomorrow to celebrate if I was you!
gilder40 DO NOT let this thread that was meant for celebration of milestones before some had to turn it into a shit show of insensitive assholeness ruin your day or your milestone. And especially don't worry about that ridiculous IQ bullshit. If the doctors gave her the all clear to come home then she must be doing fantastic, which is so incredibly awesome. SO.
YAYAYAYAYAAYAYYAY FOR HAVING A BABY AT HOME!!!! Congratulations mama! So happy for the both of you. Can't wait to hear about life at home and settling into the new normal.
This!!!! My older sister was born at 26 weeks in the 80s and she is the smartest person I know. She is about to get her second masters degree. Literally the only thing wrong with my sister is her feet are more sensitive than normal.... Big deal. She doesn't have any IQ problems, lung problems, heart problems. She sometimes is way to uptight but I think that's mostly from my dads personality, I don't think that it has anything to do with her being a premie!
gilder40, Agreed with the others! You have a healthy baby that you are taking home mama. Do not let the ridiculousness of those postings take away your joy and excitement. I hope you and baby have a fabulous time bonding at home.
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