Post by baytosa2013 on Jun 23, 2015 15:10:33 GMT -5
I feel like im going to lose my mind today. My sweet sweet baby has turned in to the spawn from hell since we started the Alimentum. All she does when I set her down is literally scream until she's red and choking. I haven't eaten since 7am and finally had to let he cry while I took a 5 min shower because I could smell myself. I just want to cry because my boobs are broken, her belly doesn't like this food, my drs office hasnt called back yet. Today I feel like the worst mother and wife all around.
So H and I noticed that baby has a blister in the center of his top lip. Anyone else have this? I'm assuming it's from sucking, and it doesn't seem to be bothering him (hasn't affected his feeding), but I still feel bad. We go back to the pediatrician Friday so I'll ask about it then.
Yup! DB just got one this week. Right in the center on top. It only lasted a couple of days, and then faded away. I've been trying to hold DB closer when he nurses because I read it can be from a bad latch.
Yup! DB just got one this week. Right in the center on top. It only lasted a couple of days, and then faded away. I've been trying to hold DB closer when he nurses because I read it can be from a bad latch.
Mine has had this pretty much from the moment we started breastfeeding. The nurses set the hospital said not to worry. That breastfed babies get it and is normal.
+1 My LO has had this from about day 3 from trying so hard to get milk out before my milk came it. It's on both his upper and lower lips. I was really worried about my latch and that it was hurting him when he ate, but I asked the pediatrician and she wasn't concerned at all. Said it was really common in breastfed babies and it will fade away.
So H and I noticed that baby has a blister in the center of his top lip. Anyone else have this? I'm assuming it's from sucking, and it doesn't seem to be bothering him (hasn't affected his feeding), but I still feel bad. We go back to the pediatrician Friday so I'll ask about it then.
So H and I noticed that baby has a blister in the center of his top lip. Anyone else have this? I'm assuming it's from sucking, and it doesn't seem to be bothering him (hasn't affected his feeding), but I still feel bad. We go back to the pediatrician Friday so I'll ask about it then.
Z has one too and I remember hearing something about a nursing blister. It hasn't bothered him either, though so I haven't looked into it any more.
So H and I noticed that baby has a blister in the center of his top lip. Anyone else have this? I'm assuming it's from sucking, and it doesn't seem to be bothering him (hasn't affected his feeding), but I still feel bad. We go back to the pediatrician Friday so I'll ask about it then.
Z has one too and I remember hearing something about a nursing blister. It hasn't bothered him either, though so I haven't looked into it any more.
the nursing blister is normal and fine, they are using those lips for the first time and layers of skin will come off. It doesn't hurt and isn't usually a sign of a bad latch or anything..
I feel like im going to lose my mind today. My sweet sweet baby has turned in to the spawn from hell since we started the Alimentum. All she does when I set her down is literally scream until she's red and choking. I haven't eaten since 7am and finally had to let he cry while I took a 5 min shower because I could smell myself. I just want to cry because my boobs are broken, her belly doesn't like this food, my drs office hasnt called back yet. Today I feel like the worst mother and wife all around.
ok, so part of it might be 3 week growth spurt you are heading into. The are inconsoleable and want to eat all the time, a bit more milk but also a lot more often feeds and more holding too.
did doctor's office call back?
I'd probably go back to the formula you were on before, and any amount of breastmilk you have and then try again with a change of formula once she'd not miserable. Or ask dr about try of nutrimigen-same type formula as alimentum but slightly different ingredients. Otherwise it's a move to an elemental formula.
This booger sucker thing the hospital gave us just sucks. -throw it- Poor baby boy can't catch a break in this department and therefore I can't either. Keeps waking himself up from snoring.
I know it sounds cruel, but sometimes I have to block the other nostril when sucking out DS1's nose so that it can get enough suction to get the yucky stuff out. Also, you can use a little bit of saline first to loosen up the gunk and then suck it out. The hospital ones are the best I've used. The ones I got from Target at my shower don't work well because the bulb part comes off and you don't get as good of suction out of it.
You are supposed to close off the one nostril while you suck the other one.
You should also put in a couple drops of saline or a couple drops of breastmilk to loosen up the gunk and then suck out the nose.
I just wish she'd do this at night instead of during the day! While she'll sleep alright at night, it's nothing like she sleeps during the day.
Same. Hayley is a party girl...loves nighttime! She's getting better at doing longer night stretches though - I've been a little crazy-obsessive about making things bright and loud during the day v. dark and quiet at night. In the last week, she's gone from being up every 1.5 hours regularly to sleeping in 2-3 hour stretches at night. The pedi said that if we keep up the differentiation, her sleeping habits should be pretty regulated by 3 weeks old. Here's hoping, cuz that's when DH goes back to work!
Babies are born with their days and nights mixed up. They are used to in utero sleeping during the day when you were walking around and then kicking you in the bladder all night long. Nights are also when your prolactin hormone is higher and they'll tend to eat more.
Just keep days busy, noisy and bright and nights darker and quieter and they'll switch around soon enough.
sully326 I asked my pediatrician about the potential for oversleeping yesterday. H sleeps about 20-22 hours per day right now. The pediatrician said that it's not abnormal or bad for newborns to sleep 4-5 hours, wake up for 30-45 mins to eat/change, and then go right back to sleep. I feel better having heard that and have decided to just enjoy it while it lasts I thank my lucky stars that I have a baby who sleeps 20 hours instead of cries 20 hours a day!
As long as they have regained birthweight and are gaining weight at a good clip of 4-7oz a week you can let them sleep. If breastfeeding it's better for your supply to nurse more often, like every 2-3 hours during day and a longer sleep at night. Some babies are so low key and sleepy you do have to keep an eye on them to get a bit more eating in, so they'll gain weight fine. And this extra sleeping thing tends to balance out--about the time you are used to one thing they do they change it up and do something else.
Nipple shield fail- took baby to the doctor and she only gained about 3oz from her birth weight in 2 weeks. She hadn't lost too much to begins with so the doctor was concerned and said she should have gained at least double what she did. I'm EBF with a nipple shield. I spoke to the LC and we came to the conclusion that she's not getting the fatty milk and that the nipple shield is messing with my supply. So now I have to get rid of the shield and pump after every feeding to empty out completely. And now I also have to take her back in a week. Fx she gains weight .
Unfortunately for some babies the nipple shield keeps them from getting enough milk volume at the breast. Often if they have a bad latch without the shield they'll continue the bad latch with the shield.
So yeah, trying to get off the shield completely is a good idea.
Otherwise pump after every feeding and give baby what you pump, up to a reasonable amount.
Did you get a weighted feeding to see how much she's transferring at the breast?
I think LO may have clogged tear ducts in both eyes-anyone familiar? I have to clean his eyes of goop several times a day. It's seemingly worse if we are outside a lot (like at the zoo today). I've just started massaging the area with my finger tip and adding drops of breast milk but haven't done it long enough to notice an improvement yet. Any other tips?? I feel so bad for him. May call the pedi tomorrow.
Invest in a Nosefrida all. Seriously. You'll use it once and kick yourself for questioning it. I also suggest saline to loosen it up first. Totally not gross. Goes no where near your mouth. Hospital bulbs are usually better than store bought like PP mentioned, but NF tops them all.
I think LO may have clogged tear ducts in both eyes-anyone familiar? I have to clean his eyes of goop several times a day. It's seemingly worse if we are outside a lot (like at the zoo today). I've just started massaging the area with my finger tip and adding drops of breast milk but haven't done it long enough to notice an improvement yet. Any other tips?? I feel so bad for him. May call the pedi tomorrow.
I used a warm compress every couple of hours as recommended by pedi. Worked well and cleared up after a day.
Just hold a warm washcloth on there? And for how long?
I used a warm compress every couple of hours as recommended by pedi. Worked well and cleared up after a day.
Just hold a warm washcloth on there? And for how long?
I agree with the warm wash cloth recommendation. There is no specific science for how long that I'm aware of. Don't freak out too much yet- most pedi's give about 12 months for the ducts to clear up, then if they are still clogged surgery is an option (but rather rare). DD's eye ducts didn't clear until she was 15 months old, right when we were going to get surgery. Because we kept our appointment with the fancy eye doctor, we discovered DD needed glasses . But again, don't freak out yet, it will likely resolve on its own.
Just hold a warm washcloth on there? And for how long?
I agree with the warm wash cloth recommendation. There is no specific science for how long that I'm aware of. Don't freak out too much yet- most pedi's give about 12 months for the ducts to clear up, then if they are still clogged surgery is an option (but rather rare). DD's eye ducts didn't clear until she was 15 months old, right when we were going to get surgery. Because we kept our appointment with the fancy eye doctor, we discovered DD needed glasses . But again, don't freak out yet, it will likely resolve on its own.
Thanks for the advice! Yeah, my friend's son had to have the surgery so I'm somewhat familiar I just feel bad because I dont want him to be uncomfortable. I'm going to keep massaging the ducts and try the warm compress and hope it resolves itself quickly!
Invest in a Nosefrida all. Seriously. You'll use it once and kick yourself for questioning it. I also suggest saline to loosen it up first. Totally not gross. Goes no where near your mouth. Hospital bulbs are usually better than store bought like PP mentioned, but NF tops them all.
We were so grossed out by the pictures on the nose Frida box, so I am glad you said this. I took the hospital bulb but will open my mind a little.
I feel like im going to lose my mind today. My sweet sweet baby has turned in to the spawn from hell since we started the Alimentum. All she does when I set her down is literally scream until she's red and choking. I haven't eaten since 7am and finally had to let he cry while I took a 5 min shower because I could smell myself. I just want to cry because my boobs are broken, her belly doesn't like this food, my drs office hasnt called back yet. Today I feel like the worst mother and wife all around.
ok, so part of it might be 3 week growth spurt you are heading into. The are inconsoleable and want to eat all the time, a bit more milk but also a lot more often feeds and more holding too.
did doctor's office call back?
I'd probably go back to the formula you were on before, and any amount of breastmilk you have and then try again with a change of formula once she'd not miserable. Or ask dr about try of nutrimigen-same type formula as alimentum but slightly different ingredients. Otherwise it's a move to an elemental formula.
Hi Amy
Yes they finally called at 10 to 5. Told me they could give me a sample can of neocate and call in an RX for it to see if insurance will cover it. Cue breakdown number 8472 at the $56.00 a can price tag and the fact that I would never make it to their office in 10 mins with afternoon traffic.
My DH called and said he'd stop dr Target on the way home. He picked up the Alimentum ready to eat liquefied since ALOT of reviews said baby tolerated that better than powder. If this doesn't help her demeanor and the screaming, we are going to try the nutrimigen then finally the neocate.
I just hate feeling like I don't know what to do to help her and I physically can't do it with no breast milk. I did give her the 3 ounces I managed to pump last week and she took a 3 hour nap. I managed to wait till hubby got home to burst in to tears again. Sigh... Momming is hard!
I am having a hard time with feeding. She's not getting enough so I'm also pumping and my right breast/nipple HURTS so bad when she goes to nurse. I'm so frustrated. I took Motrin but it makes me so dang sleepy. I just want to get my baby milky wasted and have her go to sleep but it's not happening!
@amyg what can I do to up my supply quickly? And also what can I do to help with this pain?
We were given a supplemental nursing system to encourage baby to feed at the breast and also help build up my supply - it worked twice since we've been home but now we're both covered in milk and I'm pumping. She's already figured out how to dislodge the tube!
I wish she'd nurse more. I miss straight up nursing her.
We were given a supplemental nursing system to encourage baby to feed at the breast and also help build up my supply - it worked twice since we've been home but now we're both covered in milk and I'm pumping. She's already figured out how to dislodge the tube!
I wish she'd nurse more. I miss straight up nursing her.
Once or twice a day when you have help to try help you out, try the sns again.
Or swaddle her tightly when she's nursing to keep the hands down and use a stronger tape to hold the tubing down. Some have success using a hands free pumping bra or homemade one with the holes cut out of a sport bra and running the tubing UNDER the bra so there is less that baby can dislodge.
I am having a hard time with feeding. She's not getting enough so I'm also pumping and my right breast/nipple HURTS so bad when she goes to nurse. I'm so frustrated. I took Motrin but it makes me so dang sleepy. I just want to get my baby milky wasted and have her go to sleep but it's not happening!
@amyg what can I do to up my supply quickly? And also what can I do to help with this pain?
ok so she didn't gain weight with the shield well. Did you do a weighted feeding with the lc and with and without the shield in place to see how much she is getting?
How much are you pumping?
To raise your milk supply, nurse every 2 hours for 24 hours, then stay at 2-3 hours during the day and one 3-4 hour break at night or once a day. Do this until weight gain is on track at 4-7 oz a week.
After nursing pump with a hospital rental pump if possible, pump until the milk stops flowing and then pump for 5-10-15 minutes longer, but not to the point of pain, to signal another let down and tell your body you need more milk.
Increase water intake 25 oz more than you usually drink for just you with that being around 8- eight oz glasses of water. Since it's summer, ideally you would go over that amount. Add in some Gatorade occasionally to keep your electrolytes in balance.
Up your calories by at least 550 calories more than what your own body needs.
On average a bfed baby at the breast will take in 25 oz of milk a day. Milk averages 22 calories per oz, which gives you that 550 caloreis and 25 oz of water just to make milk.
Milk varies from 15-40 calories per oz, and milk supply varies from 19-30 oz a day. If your body wants to make 40 calorie per oz milk and make 30 oz a day, that's 1200 calories extra per day you need just for milk.
Water and calories are two of the biggest issues, with water being the most likely if you have fat stores to balance out calorie deficit.
Eat oatmeal every day. Oatmeal for breakfast, oatmeal cookies, oatmeal in your granola bars, oat bread, oatmeal cream pies. Oats are a hearty food that helps supply.
You can take herbs, fenugreek, blessed thistle, alfalfa and goats rue are the most common that help. You can get a tincture of these or take pills or in a mother's milk tea. Fenugreek you need enough that you smell like maple syrup.
Lactation cookies, basically an oatmeal cookie with added flax seeds and brewer's yeast. Brewer's yeast is a strong flavor, so don't add too much. You can also put brewer's yeast into a strong juice like tomato or grapefruit.
For nipple pain and damage, aside from check and recheck latch, if it hurts longer than you saying the abc's then it's probably a bad latch. Not a deep enough latch is very likely if baby was using a shield. Use laid back nursing with baby kind of on top of the breast, so that gravity will pull baby closer. You can see videos and pics of this position. Also try an asymmetrical latch, rather than symmetrical or bullseye--so baby's bottom lip touches closer to the nipple than the top lip does. smoosh breast tissue flat with your hand and point nipple sort of toward roof of mouth and then toward back of throat as baby opens wide. You can also latch on in any position and then lay back a bit so gravity will pull them into a deeper latch.
To speed healing, motrin for pain relief, It also helps with swelling and inflammation. I've never heard of it making people sleepy, but if it's taking away the pain that is keeping you from resting, then I could see that. Short term use of aleve may help if motrin doesn't work for you, I believe it has anti-inflammatory properties, Tylenol doesn't help with the swelling and inflammation but if it works for you for pain.
Warm water soaks of the breast and nipple, or warm saline solution soaks. That increase blood flow and can help with let down, so you may want to do it before nursing sessions to help with let down so in theory sucking won't be as strong/painful right off the batt if milk is right there.
After nursing rub in breastmilk into nipple, use a hair dryer on low to dry the breastmilk and then slather on a good quality nipple cream. If lanolin is not helping, try earth mamma nipple butter it has a different base. if you have damage you can use minimal amount of bacitracin before the nipple cream or instead of it. doesn't have to be washed off. If you use Neosporin just make sure there isn't much on nipple before nursing.
ok, so part of it might be 3 week growth spurt you are heading into. The are inconsoleable and want to eat all the time, a bit more milk but also a lot more often feeds and more holding too.
did doctor's office call back?
I'd probably go back to the formula you were on before, and any amount of breastmilk you have and then try again with a change of formula once she'd not miserable. Or ask dr about try of nutrimigen-same type formula as alimentum but slightly different ingredients. Otherwise it's a move to an elemental formula.
Hi Amy
Yes they finally called at 10 to 5. Told me they could give me a sample can of neocate and call in an RX for it to see if insurance will cover it. Cue breakdown number 8472 at the $56.00 a can price tag and the fact that I would never make it to their office in 10 mins with afternoon traffic.
My DH called and said he'd stop dr Target on the way home. He picked up the Alimentum ready to eat liquefied since ALOT of reviews said baby tolerated that better than powder. If this doesn't help her demeanor and the screaming, we are going to try the nutrimigen then finally the neocate.
I just hate feeling like I don't know what to do to help her and I physically can't do it with no breast milk. I did give her the 3 ounces I managed to pump last week and she took a 3 hour nap. I managed to wait till hubby got home to burst in to tears again. Sigh... Momming is hard!
Momming is definitely hard! hugs to you.
There are ways to get insurance to cover neocate or elecal (sp?) if they are medically necessary.
Did you have any change with the alimentum ready to feed?
Yes they finally called at 10 to 5. Told me they could give me a sample can of neocate and call in an RX for it to see if insurance will cover it. Cue breakdown number 8472 at the $56.00 a can price tag and the fact that I would never make it to their office in 10 mins with afternoon traffic.
My DH called and said he'd stop dr Target on the way home. He picked up the Alimentum ready to eat liquefied since ALOT of reviews said baby tolerated that better than powder. If this doesn't help her demeanor and the screaming, we are going to try the nutrimigen then finally the neocate.
I just hate feeling like I don't know what to do to help her and I physically can't do it with no breast milk. I did give her the 3 ounces I managed to pump last week and she took a 3 hour nap. I managed to wait till hubby got home to burst in to tears again. Sigh... Momming is hard!
Momming is definitely hard! hugs to you.
There are ways to get insurance to cover neocate or elecal (sp?) if they are medically necessary.
Did you have any change with the alimentum ready to feed?
Yes she is definitely not fussy like she was yesterday and has only cried when hungry or needing a diaper change. I just changed her and she had her first poop and it wasn't explosive liquid like it was. It was thicker and looked more like it did her first few days. I'm hopeful that this will do the trick.
Does anyone else have experience w their baby rolling from back to side already when sleeping? I put her to sleep on her back and she rolls to her side. DS didn't do this until 3 1/2 months and that is when we stopped swaddling because it can mean they can roll to tummy while swaddled and therefore potentially suffocate.
Does this mean I pretty much need to stop swaddling now? What a pain. She has been sleeping really well at night (4 hours first stretch then 3 hours then 2 hours) or should I swaddle arms out w a sleep sack now?
Does anyone else have experience w their baby rolling from back to side already when sleeping? I put her to sleep on her back and she rolls to her side. DS didn't do this until 3 1/2 months and that is when we stopped swaddling because it can mean they can roll to tummy while swaddled and therefore potentially suffocate.
Does this mean I pretty much need to stop swaddling now? What a pain. She has been sleeping really well at night (4 hours first stretch then 3 hours then 2 hours) or should I swaddle arms out w a sleep sack now?
My son has been rolling onto his side nearly every time we put him down. He won't keep his arms in when we swaddle him and hasn't since he was born. Not too concerned here since he isn't flipping back and forth, and the pediatrician said it was fine.
Does anyone else have experience w their baby rolling from back to side already when sleeping? I put her to sleep on her back and she rolls to her side. DS didn't do this until 3 1/2 months and that is when we stopped swaddling because it can mean they can roll to tummy while swaddled and therefore potentially suffocate.
Does this mean I pretty much need to stop swaddling now? What a pain. She has been sleeping really well at night (4 hours first stretch then 3 hours then 2 hours) or should I swaddle arms out w a sleep sack now?
My son has been rolling onto his side nearly every time we put him down. He won't keep his arms in when we swaddle him and hasn't since he was born. Not too concerned here since he isn't flipping back and forth, and the pediatrician said it was fine.
so are you not swaddling? or swaddling arms out? what do you mean by he isnt flipping back & forth so you arent concerned? DD is flipping back to side and then she goes to her back again from her side. she just hasnt rolled to her tummy yet
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