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This doesn't seem hypocritical. I think she was being silly about the red, white, and blue. She wasn't all "oh my god, look at this new dress in going to wear out with Bill." Just my $0.02.

[mosdub]

With those 2 paired side-by-side it seems like a joke considering her wardrobe isn't all that varied.

On the flip side, I could see how she may have been advised to share that image in order to appeal more approachable/relatable to women. I'm sure her entire instagram is calculated and well-thought-out.

[rablissful]

I think she is making a jab at the reporter, NOT being all "oh look at my clothes", considering the clothes on the rack are red, white, and blue...

[shadesofgold]

They are two different things that are not mutually exclusive. She rightfully called that dude out but she still has to wear clothes on her body! Anyway, I think she is making a joke in the Instagram photo - the name of her last book was Hard Choices and her thing for pantsuits has becoming its own meme. Plus, she definitely has to seem more down to earth this campaign and her effort is definitely showing in these last couple of weeks through her social media - this is I think another attempt to look like an everywoman. But I just reject the implication that she can't call out a reporter and still like clothes. I mean, it was a sexist question, whether or not she actually had a favorite designer or is a "clothes horse." We all know feminists can like fashion!

[rablissful]

Jun 10, 2015 12:38:12 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

Jun 10, 2015 12:29:46 GMT -5 mosdub said:

With those 2 paired side-by-side it seems like a joke considering her wardrobe isn't all that varied.

On the flip side, I could see how she may have been advised to share that image in order to appeal more approachable/relatable to women. I'm sure her entire instagram is calculated and well-thought-out.

I can see that...

But I just kind of think it contradicts her supposedly progressive stance on the role of women, especially how women are treated in the media.

So women can't like clothes AND be a force to be reckoned with? You can be both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

I still think it was a jab at the reporter/interviewer though. It wasn't a coincidence the clothes were red/white/blue, in that order.

[ghostmonkey]

Jun 10, 2015 12:38:12 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

Jun 10, 2015 12:29:46 GMT -5 mosdub said:

With those 2 paired side-by-side it seems like a joke considering her wardrobe isn't all that varied.

On the flip side, I could see how she may have been advised to share that image in order to appeal more approachable/relatable to women. I'm sure her entire instagram is calculated and well-thought-out.

I can see that...

But I just kind of think it contradicts her supposedly progressive stance on the role of women, especially how women are treated in the media.

No. Being into fashion or whatever you want is fine.

Asking a political candidate about her designer preferences instead of political issues is fucking asinine.


If a male candidate posted that, would you even bat an eye? Who is the hypocrite here?

[mosdub]

Jun 10, 2015 12:38:12 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

Jun 10, 2015 12:29:46 GMT -5 mosdub said:

With those 2 paired side-by-side it seems like a joke considering her wardrobe isn't all that varied.

On the flip side, I could see how she may have been advised to share that image in order to appeal more approachable/relatable to women. I'm sure her entire instagram is calculated and well-thought-out.

I can see that...

But I just kind of think it contradicts her supposedly progressive stance on the role of women, especially how women are treated in the media.

Agreed, but haven't they done polls and found that women find her "too aggressive" or something?  Now I can't find information on it, but I thought I recalled hearing about that on news radio.  I completely get how much of a double-standard it is (a man in a leadership role is allowed to be funny/silly AND aggressive, but a woman is either seen as a ditz or a cold-hearted bitch).  

Maybe this is her team trying to land somewhere in the middle?  

[mosdub]

Jun 10, 2015 12:45:46 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

Jun 10, 2015 12:41:33 GMT -5 rablissful said:

So women can't like clothes AND be a force to be reckoned with? You can be both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

I still think it was a jab at the reporter/interviewer though. It wasn't a coincidence the clothes were red/white/blue, in that order.

Of course they can. Had the photo been the second, or fourth, or twentieth she shared on IG, I'd have thought nothing of it, but the fact that it was her debut on the platform, and something she / her campaign knew would get media attention: that's what rubs me wrong, I guess. Perhaps the 'hard choices' was tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps it was meant to be funny in a sly way, but there are other ways she could have portrayed herself as the 'everywoman' without going straight to clothes and fashion.

I'd rather her first IG post to have showed herself the everywoman, while also tying into the issues.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm always interested to hear others' reactions.

Maybe this is exactly why it was the perfect post?  Critical and informed viewers may interpret it as a smart jab whereas others may view it as a more "Look, I also struggle with what I'm going to wear, aren't I relatable?!"

[pismoduo]

Yea, I think it's a jab at that reporter, a joke to acknowledge the meme about her always wearing pantsuits AND a way to relate to female voters.

I think this is the perfect way to kick off her IG, actually. Hilary has a lot of work to do to make herself seem like a regular person, and IG is the way to go for that. The types of people following her IG aren't following it for more information on her stance on political issues or to see her post campaign photos. They want to see the side of her that shows she's just like them. I mean, how many of us don't have 3 or 4 "go to" outfits that we wear almost all the time? Hell, it even appeals to people like my husband, who have exactly 5 work shirts and rotate through them with a few different pairs of pants.

[pismoduo]

Jun 10, 2015 12:54:32 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

Jun 10, 2015 12:46:10 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

No. Being into fashion or whatever you want is fine.

Asking a political candidate about her designer preferences instead of political issues is fucking asinine.


If a male candidate posted that, would you even bat an eye? Who is the hypocrite here?

I don't think I'm being hypocritical at all. I had a reaction, and have initiated a discussion, from which my reaction has tempered. That's how one learns and grows. It's perfectly fine that she likes fashion. And of course she wears clothes. In my mind, I'm comparing her social media campaign promotion platform to that of Bernie Sanders.

His first IG post was this,

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And hers was of clothes. Perhaps she's attempting to appear more likable / approachable, but if you're going to choose to carry out so much of your campaign on social media as she has, I'd rather she focus more on the issues at hand than on her wardrobe OR on taking lighthearted jabs at reporters.

I think this is a fundamental difference between her and Bernie Sanders, though. Bernie already has a TON of internet exposure showing that he's the every man, he's a normal guy, he's fighting for the 99%. Every day I see things on imgur, Facebook, twitter, etc about him, clips of interviews, etc.

Hilary Clinton comes across very aloof, very political. She has to prove to people that she's really a normal person who cares about what happens to people who don't have millions to contribute to her campaign. Bernie can focus on pictures of himself with veterans and at campaign events because he already has the credibility of being a normal guy. Hilary has to build that persona still.

[pismoduo]

Jun 10, 2015 13:02:29 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

Jun 10, 2015 13:00:33 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

I think this is a fundamental difference between her and Bernie Sanders, though. Bernie already has a TON of internet exposure showing that he's the every man, he's a normal guy, he's fighting for the 99%. Every day I see things on imgur, Facebook, twitter, etc about him, clips of interviews, etc.

Hilary Clinton comes across very aloof, very political. She has to prove to people that she's really a normal person who cares about what happens to people who don't have millions to contribute to her campaign. Bernie can focus on pictures of himself with veterans and at campaign events because he already has the credibility of being a normal guy. Hilary has to build that persona still.

Also fair. See, I learn so much from y'all.

Bernie is... well, Bernie.

And Hillary has gotten so much flack recently, specifically about how much $$ she and Bill make a year on appearances and speeches. The more I think about it, the more I understand the reasoning behind the post.

I think it's good, though, to have these kinds of conversations. And part of me wants to believe that it's part of the goal of that picture, to get people talking and debating.

That's probably a little naive/optimistic, though.

[fuzzylogic]

I think it's pretty damn funny.

[requiressnacks]

I took it as a joke. And I think it's pretty hilarious.

And if Obama, or any of the candidates want to Instagram their closets, I think it would be great.

[Andrea]

The White House has also made fun on some people commenting on the President's wardrobe before the State of the Union. People gave him shit for that tan suit he wore during a press release last year. His staff also like to make fun digs

[michelleca]

Jun 10, 2015 12:57:25 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

Yea, I think it's a jab at that reporter, a joke to acknowledge the meme about her always wearing pantsuits AND a way to relate to female voters.

I think this is the perfect way to kick off her IG, actually. Hilary has a lot of work to do to make herself seem like a regular person, and IG is the way to go for that. The types of people following her IG aren't following it for more information on her stance on political issues or to see her post campaign photos. They want to see the side of her that shows she's just like them. I mean, how many of us don't have 3 or 4 "go to" outfits that we wear almost all the time? Hell, it even appeals to people like my husband, who have exactly 5 work shirts and rotate through them with a few different pairs of pants.

Canadian piping in! I agree that it is the perfect kick off, the post did exactly what it was supposed to do, get people talking.