(Spoilers DUH) Game of Thrones: Curse You George!

[dacora]

Okay, so we don't hijack the FWP thread...

I think I'm actually the most pissed off that Myrcella died! Ugh. Jaime turn the boat around and go raise some hell!

Also, HOLY CRAP STANNIS??? I feel like I got some serious book spoilers. I know they've taken some liberties with the show, but I really don't think they'd go so far to off a main character like Stannis unless he was already going to die. I know the situation at Winterfell is a lot different in the books (I really wanted them to include the Manderlys and their Frey Pie and Mance as a bard/minstrel) but I honestly thought Stannis was going to win that battle. He still might and die later, but .

[jensoprano82]

Ok so maybe I'm just being a brat, but massive death toll aside, we just weren't given a lot of plot resolution and satisfaction in this finale. I just didn't care for the episode.

[lotsofdotts]

@holachica Jon is gone. I just read an Entertainment Weekly article online that he said he is not coming back after tonight's episode. ??

[seamonster]

Book spoilers for sure since Shireen doesn't die in the last book. But if she does die in the next book, it would have to be her mother's doing since Stannis is at Winterfell in the books.

I hope Jon's not really dead.

I know GRRM says the books and show are two different things, but I don't want the remaining books to feel like fanfic for the show.

[dacora]

Jun 15, 2015 3:54:22 GMT -5 lotsofdotts said:

@holachica Jon is gone. I just read an Entertainment Weekly article online that he said he is not coming back after tonight's episode. ??

I just read that article, which means the show is sending mixed signals. They state specifically that "they're not dead unless you see a body" and talk about the importance of seeing Ned get beheaded. So does that mean Brienne may not have killed Stannis? We didn't see him die. It could have been a classic "swing but miss on purpose" moment.

And ugh, I refuse to believe that Jon won't be in the show anymore! They can't have that huge of a change to the plot... I think they're lying for the shock factor, or at least that's what I'm telling myself.

[dacora]

Jun 15, 2015 6:12:56 GMT -5 seamonster said:

Book spoilers for sure since Shireen doesn't die in the last book. But if she does die in the next book, it would have to be her mother's doing since Stannis is at Winterfell in the books.

I hope Jon's not really dead.

I know GRRM says the books and show are two different things, but I don't want the remaining books to feel like fanfic for the show.

I could see Melisandre taking it upon herself to burn Shireen, or it could be something that happens after the battle at Winterfell. I dunno. In one of the interviews after the episode, the producers talk about how they spoke to GRRM and it seemed like he was the one who told them about the decision Stannis had to make about Shireen.

But yeah, I understand the show cutting out extra plotlines for the sake of television, but I just can't see them going a totally different direction with a major character like Jon.

[dacora]

Jun 15, 2015 10:02:45 GMT -5 @nolagal said:

I guess the article said Jon won't be back for Season 6....but maybe season 7? I absolutely do not think he is really dead. Once people started dying in this episode, I knew it was only going to get worse. Melisandre showed up there for a reason.  

Thing is about Stannis (book spoiler to follow, hopefully I do the spoiler code right!)

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{Spoiler} Brienne is already dead in the books, so we know that at least he doesn't die like that. He may die, and I'm guessing he does, because I don't think he's important enough to keep on living. But we still don't know how he will actually die.

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Brienne isn't dead. She shows up and lies to Jaime, asking him for help rescuing Sansa from The Hound (which we know isn't true since Sansa is in the Vale and perfectly fine).

[dacora]

@nolagal

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{Spoilers}She does, and at the end of the scene it's very ambiguous. Basically Lady Stoneheart gave her two choices: rope or sword. As they're hanging Podrick and he starts to struggle, the book describes it as her 'yelling out a single word' which they don't explain. GRRM mentioned in an interview that she said 'sword' meaning that she would (if I recall correctly) serve Lady Stoneheart and I think agree to kill Jaime or something.

But yeah, it seems like she was desperate to save Pod.