GoT Speculation

[PepperPottsJ]

Part because I am too lazy to search for the last thread,  and partly...  did anyone else read this?

ETA Potential 

[rablissful]

He's not dead /gavel

[housecarder]

I don't think Jon will stay dead.

[mill23]

I've been reading so many of these and none have done anything but make me more curious. Must. Know. If. Jon. Lives.

[zombiesquad]

I'll have to take a little more time to read this, but I'm most intrigued.

[PepperPottsJ]

i need to occupy my time until the book comes out or next season starts. is it wrong that I want to stalk the sets

[housecarder]

When does the next book come out?

[hlm184]

Ever since I read the book I've been sure that Jon isn't dead forever.

[ceejay]

My favorite tidbit from that article is that Kit Harington hasn't actually cut his hair! Jon Snow is totally alive.

(from someone's Twitter last weekend)

[penguin129]

DH is also convinced they will not get rid of Jon Snow. He says they just can't.

[PepperPottsJ]

Jun 23, 2015 18:35:22 GMT -5 housecarder said:

When does the next book come out?

Not soon enough,  he is still writing it

[housecarder]

Jun 23, 2015 19:11:48 GMT -5 PepperPottsJ said:

Jun 23, 2015 18:35:22 GMT -5 housecarder said:

When does the next book come out?

Not soon enough,  he is still writing it

Ugh, I hate watching a show/movie before reading the book, but I don't want to skip next season to wait on the book.

[MissMusic]

Sort of off topic, but related to OP's gif:
That scene from Hardhome was probably the scariest yet imho. What really got me was the silence. Theres like, NO sound when the Wildlings/Jon are floating in the boats and this dude is standing on the docks. Nothing. I don't even think I heard the iconic creak of leather armor as characters moved.

Its like utter silence, a cold and dark environment, staring into the face of something horrible, and hope is completely shattered. I actually thought to myself, "This is what death must be like" when I saw it--which is probably what they were going for.

*shudders*

[pismoduo]

Jun 23, 2015 18:35:22 GMT -5 housecarder said:

When does the next book come out?

At the rate we're going... never. #notatallbitter

[LadyNymeria]

I am very much convinced he's not dead. I will be beyond devestated if it turns out he is, but for now I will assume he's not.

Nice to see he hasn't cut his hair!

[JustJudy]

I refuse to believe he's dead. No way no how.

[joy]

Doesn't it all feel a little convenient that the TV show has caught up to the books and they are all cliff-hangered on Jon's death? No other season ended with such unknown.

I'm wondering if George RR Martin purposefully hasn't released the next book. It was a good place the leave everyone wondering.

[ironbaby]

I think Jon is dead.

However, I don't think he stays dead. I will be PISSED if he is completely out of next season though.

[LadyNymeria]

Jun 24, 2015 7:17:46 GMT -5 ironbaby said:

I think Jon is dead.

However, I don't think he stays dead. I will be PISSED if he is completely out of next season though.

I do agree with you. I just forgot the word "permanently" in my post.

[shadesofgold]

This GIF though.

[Andrea]

He is coming back in some sort of way. I feel it in my bones.

[housecarder]

They've played up the importance of who his mother was too much to have him gone for good. If he's dead permanently then his linage doesn't matter (it's not like he has an heir out there).

[joy]

Every great epic story has a character who dies and then is reborn in some fashion.

Lord of the Rings = Gandalf
Harry Potter = Harry
The Bible = Jesus
Narnia = Aslan
etc..

It would astound me if George RR Martin didn't do the exact same thing here with an important character.

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I know Catelyn did return in a Pet Semetary way, yes?  Ha.  But, I think there will be a more grand character who does it and my money is on Jon Snow for a variety of reasons.  His lineage is important.  His presence is important. 

[cakewench]

Jun 23, 2015 19:11:48 GMT -5 PepperPottsJ said:

Jun 23, 2015 18:35:22 GMT -5 housecarder said:

When does the next book come out?

Not soon enough,  he is still writing it

Just jumping in now so I apologize if someone has posted this before:

youtu.be/j7lp3RhzfgI

Truth, in song form.

[emilie]

I have never thought for a minute that he will actually be dead. Dude is totally getting reanimated by Melisandre.

[goldenlove3]

I posted a link to a video that had some interesting points in it. One thing that I didn't notice when watching the show is that the blood in the final scene starts to take the shape of a dragon wing..

ETA: Adding spoiler but seriously who hasn't watched yet?

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[ironbaby]

joy and goldenlove3, you both get points for pointing out things I hadn't noticed before!

The idea that Martin is following in the footsteps of some of the great fantasy novels is amazing. However, all of those examples were self-sacrifice, knowing they were approaching their own death. Can we say the same for Jon?

I love the dragon wing idea!!

[Andrea]

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{Spoiler}One of my friends mentioned that his eyes turned purple as the camera closed in on him at the end, a sign of his Targaryen blood line. Anyone else notice that? Or seen something to that effect?

edited: I can't spell. Apologies.

[joy]

Andrea, - can you proofread your spoiler? What you wrote in there doesn't totally make sense. (Like, the word "hit"?)

[LadyNymeria]

Jun 24, 2015 14:10:32 GMT -5 Andrea said:

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{Spoiler}One of my friends mentioned that his eyes turned purple as the camera closed in on him at the end, a sign of hit Targaryen; blood line. Anyone else notice that? Or seen something to that effect?

Did the camera even zoom close enough to really see that? I can't remember how close they zoomed in.