GKU Description (SEX)

[frankenboom]

Jul 10, 2015 21:34:02 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Perhaps I'm generally too unemotional to understand, but what, precisely, is the issue? That admins are human? That, yes, we choose to spend our personal time building something that is important to us and, we hope, to you? That despite choosing to do this, it doesn't mean that it's always easy or fun for us?

Someone please explain. I really just want to understand what has everyone worked up.

I think for me there's a difference between being overwhelmed and not liking every part of the job (and then complaining about it occasionally) and being overwhelmed and not liking every part of the job (and then repeatedly saying you should step down or whatever - which to me seems like screaming for people to beg you not to do that). If an admin is truly that unhappy with being an admin, they shouldn't do it. But don't keep basically threatening to stop doing it and not actually take action.

I've basically just been reading this thread and have agreed with stuff that lots of posters have said and have disagreed with stuff lots of posters have said. Although I've been vocal previously, I'm at the point where I don't really care either way about most of it, but if other people do, then why not have a discussion (I do think this started TIC and went somewhere weird when things seemed to get defensive and antagonistic - from both admin and members)?

Above is just my personal thought on the questions you asked. I think you guys do work your asses off and you're not excluded from complaining but when it goes into dramatics, it becomes too much, IMO.

Sorry I realize this was tl;dr but I feel like you'll still love me in the morning.

[bibliothecary]

Jul 10, 2015 21:39:26 GMT -5 @rutherily said:

Jul 10, 2015 21:34:02 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Perhaps I'm generally too unemotional to understand, but what, precisely, is the issue? That admins are human? That, yes, we choose to spend our personal time building something that is important to us and, we hope, to you? That despite choosing to do this, it doesn't mean that it's always easy or fun for us?

Someone please explain. I really just want to understand what has everyone worked up.

These are my personal thoughts in this thread. I completely understand the admins are human and active members as well. However my issue was to treat the OPs of this thread as if they are not appreciative because they had a complaint or criticism about what seemed to be a change without their knowledge. Now it's cleared up that it seemed to be a board issue and now my only thoughts are that being admins seem to be running you ragged and don't want to see that create a rift between you guys and other members. And the very blown out of proportion comments made by members of the staff during a conversation regarding board issues were unnecessary.

I understand that there have been miscommunications throughout this thread. They are regrettable and should not have happened. Occasionally, it is difficult to separate an attack on website performance from the people who spent time building that website.
Now that you understand that we have very important motivations for working on the website and dealing with security issues (that business on Wednesday was ridiculous), I'm sure you can appreciate that we feel as passionately about this place as you do. I like to think we're all on the same team, here. It's just difficult to always feel like it when there can be a pile on effect when something goes a bit wonky.

[bibliothecary]

Jul 10, 2015 21:49:22 GMT -5 frankenboom said:

I think for me there's a difference between being overwhelmed and not liking every part of the job (and then complaining about it occasionally) and being overwhelmed and not liking every part of the job (and then repeatedly saying you should step down or whatever - which to me seems like screaming for people to beg you not to do that). If an admin is truly that unhappy with being an admin, they shouldn't do it. But don't keep basically threatening to stop doing it and not actually take action.

I've basically just been reading this thread and have agreed with stuff that lots of posters have said and have disagreed with stuff lots of posters have said. Although I've been vocal previously, I'm at the point where I don't really care either way about most of it, but if other people do, then why not have a discussion (I do think this started TIC and went somewhere weird when things seemed to get defensive and antagonistic - from both admin and members)?

Above is just my personal thought on the questions you asked. I think you guys do work your asses off and you're not excluded from complaining but when it goes into dramatics, it becomes too much, IMO.

Sorry I realize this was tl;dr but I feel like you'll still love me in the morning.

I'd even make you bacon pancakes.

It's not easy, this admining crap. And I don't even have the half of it. Again, not brought on for my coding. Code is scary. I think the "dramatics" that everyone sees is just stress and feeling overwhelmed. Again, that pile on effect can be very real here. I'm not a sensitive person, as too many years of retail beat it out of me, but I can understand how a person could be tempted to leave when they put so much work into something and receive a lot of flack. I'm sure you guys can relate.

[juliayadda]

All I have to say is ... so much bibliothecary, in this thread is making me excited!

[bibliothecary]

Okay, I have to sleep. You people continue talking about sex or butt plugs or whatever makes you happy. Tag me if anyone discusses the we vibe. I've been thinking about buying one, once my orgasms aren't broken anymore.

[bunnyfungo]

Jul 10, 2015 22:12:36 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Okay, I have to sleep. You people continue talking about sex or butt plugs or whatever makes you happy. Tag me if anyone discusses the we vibe. I've been thinking about buying one, once my orgasms aren't broken anymore.

We talked about this for like 3 pages in the FFFC.

[bibliothecary]

Jul 10, 2015 22:13:28 GMT -5 bunnyfungo said:

Jul 10, 2015 22:12:36 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Okay, I have to sleep. You people continue talking about sex or butt plugs or whatever makes you happy. Tag me if anyone discusses the we vibe. I've been thinking about buying one, once my orgasms aren't broken anymore.

We talked about this for like 3 pages in the FFFC.

I know. I stalked a lil. But it made me jealous. I can't remember my last O. *crying forever*

[bibliothecary]

And didn't you people used to play CAH? Y'all never tag me in that shit anymore. I can still hang!

(okay, no, I can't. But I can try)

[pismoduo]

Jul 10, 2015 22:21:33 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

And didn't you people used to play CAH? Y'all never tag me in that shit anymore. I can still hang!

(okay, no, I can't. But I can try)

If it makes you feel better, we don't play that often anymore. It's very sad.

[bibliothecary]

Jul 10, 2015 22:27:44 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

Jul 10, 2015 22:21:33 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

And didn't you people used to play CAH? Y'all never tag me in that shit anymore. I can still hang!

(okay, no, I can't. But I can try)

If it makes you feel better, we don't play that often anymore. It's very sad.

The fuck, man? Step up your game, GKU.

[juliayadda]

Jul 10, 2015 22:21:33 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

And didn't you people used to play CAH? Y'all never tag me in that shit anymore. I can still hang!

(okay, no, I can't. But I can try)

Remember when we used to tag budders  at like 7 pm and she would fall asleep? 

Meeeemmmmorrries 

[emilie]

I just want to say that I admire what the admins are trying to do in addition to just keeping the site running. I know a lot of you might think that we don't need to expand beyond the original PB forum and why fix something that isn't broken?

But I also have to say that I love the idea of TCF being a larger, accessible, and well-known site that gives people a sane and smart alternative to TD and Babycenter and all the other fuckery out there. If we as a community stick to our guns of providing honest, funny, knowledgeable, and no-BS advice to the masses, we could eventually be an amazing resource not just for the few thousand people who play here every day, but for those people on the internets who are dealing with TTC, loss, IF, etc. and looking for support. We were all there once and that's how we found TD, after all. Our site actually fills a need in the Internet community, and in order to help people find us we need to grow.

And the admins have all been here from the beginning and then some, and care about that mission so much that they put tons of hours and effort into taking our site to that next level. And it's not just the admins. Lots of members here are spending time writing and editing content, designing stuff, and moderating our forums.

And let's be real, some fresh meat wouldn't hurt around here, and it's essential to keep this community going, and growing, long term.

But this kind of discussion is good, and necessary. Tiny enterprises don't turn into big evil corporations overnight. It's death by a thousand cuts, the first of which could be excising the word "sex" from a forum description. So let's continue to check ourselves, remember why we're here, and have open discussions between users and non-faceless admins.