Post by librarychica on Jan 26, 2015 22:09:30 GMT -5
Where I work it varies widely from dept to dept, role to role.
Confession: I am really bad about being on time to work. In my defense, my boss doesn't mind and I get there at 7 and 7 seems really frickin' early to me, but I know I should step it up because it's just silly to be chronically 5/10 mins late and then I have to stay 5/10 mins late. The only job I have ever consistently been early for was the one that started at 10. Those were good hours.
That said, I am on time to meetings. It is one thing to be late when it on messes with my schedule and whole other thing to mess with the schedules of others.
Post by toratoratori on Jan 27, 2015 0:21:27 GMT -5
We're flexible. Meetings and events are expected to start on time, but if I roll in 20 minutes late because my daycare provider happened to talk my ear off that morning (aka. every morning), no one really cares.
Post by somebabiesmom on Jan 27, 2015 6:04:07 GMT -5
I am habitually late to everything all the time. Could be 2 minutes (which I actually consider on time), could be that I miss it altogether. For some reason, I am just pure shit at managing a calendar. I set three reminders: one for the day before, one for a couple hours before, and one for 15 minutes before. I have tried keeping multiple different calendars in different mediums for different things in different locations, and I've tried keeping one master calendar. But nothing works. In fact, the harder I try, the worse I am. Now I just suck up that I'm going to miss shit sometimes and try to make up for it in other ways, i.e., my glowing personality, having stuff done in advance, rockstar response time to phone calls and emails, diplomatic problem-solving, etc.
What really sucks is that even when I'm on time, it seems like I always run into a train or something. And when you are perpetually late and finally have an excuse - no one cares and no one believes you. So now you're a liar and you're late. FML.
Post by lingeringwithcoffee on Jan 27, 2015 12:31:10 GMT -5
As a teacher, I am definitely expected to be on time and in my classroom for students. My administrators all somehow get to school a few minutes after the students arrive, and the meetings they schedule always are starting late because none of them are ever on time. Drives me crazy, and when we have to evaluate them at the end of the year, I will definitely be making comments about their lack of punctuality.
Post by aylafsu1881 on Jan 28, 2015 11:38:06 GMT -5
I try to be punctual for work and in my personal life. If someone says 3 pm for a play date or event, then I am there between 2:55 and 3:02. I think a large part of it stemmed from how I grew up. My mom worked and she was always rushing around to get us to events. That meant me were always late and I hated walking in late and having everyone stare at me. When I went to college it just became a habit I picked up. I was on time to everything. At work I am even more punctual. I think it looks sloppy/disorganized to be late for a meeting/class.
Post by frozenpeas on Jan 28, 2015 12:10:36 GMT -5
Can I blame this on DH? And possibly my kids?
I'm still punctual at work & used to always be early in my personal life. Since DH & I have been together, though, we seem to arrive late all.the.time. I think it's b/c I generally let him decide when we get up/get ready/leave the house. This explanation just recently occurred to me & we've been together over 18 years . . . Now with kids, it's only gotten worse.
I have a sister who is chronically late to the point where the rest of my family tells her parties start 30 min earlier than they do in an attempt to get her to arrive on time. It saddens me that we may now be *that couple* in DH's family.
Post by aylafsu1881 on Jan 28, 2015 12:21:35 GMT -5
frozenpeas That is how my IL's are. They have this whole go with the flow attitude since they are retired and it drives me nuts. We tell them that something is 30 minutes earlier than it is so that they are close to being on time for things.
I am habitually punctual for work. I just think it's unprofessional otherwise. Our division's office is chaotic- with limited conference rooms- and I always fill like I'm running like a crazy person on the odd occasion I'm in the office. It drives me crazy.
In my personal life, I generally make plans for 5"ish" because almost all of my friends also have kids & jobs.
DH and DD1 are *obsessively* early. DH considers himself late if he's not that early and he's absolutely rubbed off on our oldest.
Post by helenahhandbasket on Jan 28, 2015 15:42:48 GMT -5
OP, I am a lot like you. I reailize though that my being perpetually early might be as annoying to some as those that are perpetually late.
Just as an example: I commute to work by train. There's one train I can take that gets me to my desk about 25 minutes early for work-- which is fine by me-- I just sit at my desk and do whatever I need to. The next train makes me about 3-5 minutes late for work, which gives me total agita. Unless there's some morning disaster, I am on that early train.
This makes little to no difference at work though-- I work in a creative-ish field, so people are always strolling in 20, 30, 45 minutes late for everything. I hate it.
frozenpeas That is how my IL's are. They have this whole go with the flow attitude since they are retired and it drives me nuts. We tell them that something is 30 minutes earlier than it is so that they are close to being on time for things.
Oh goodness. Speaking of late ILs made me think of Christmas all over again. We were doing Christmas dinner at DH's grandma's house. It was scheduled for 3:30 pm. We got a call at 2:00 pm to come closer to 4:30 pm. Arrived right at 4:30 pm... and it's just me, DH, and grandma. Rest of the ILs start rolling in about an hour later. We eat dinner at 8:00 pm. DH was so fed up, I actually had to talk him down about 15 minutes before dinner was actually served because it had gotten to the point that he just wanted to leave. I was kind of shocked that my hungry pregnant self was able to show so much restraint.
frozenpeas That is how my IL's are. They have this whole go with the flow attitude since they are retired and it drives me nuts. We tell them that something is 30 minutes earlier than it is so that they are close to being on time for things.
Oh goodness. Speaking of late ILs made me think of Christmas all over again. We were doing Christmas dinner at DH's grandma's house. It was scheduled for 3:30 pm. We got a call at 2:00 pm to come closer to 4:30 pm. Arrived right at 4:30 pm... and it's just me, DH, and grandma. Rest of the ILs start rolling in about an hour later. We eat dinner at 8:00 pm. DH was so fed up, I actually had to talk him down about 15 minutes before dinner was actually served because it had gotten to the point that he just wanted to leave. I was kind of shocked that my hungry pregnant self was able to show so much restraint.
Whoa! That is ridiculous. I cannot even wrap my head around people who are that late. To me it seems so inconsiderate to everyone else.
I'm always on time for meetings but I am occasionally 5-15 minutes late getting in in the morning, due to trying to wrangle myself, a baby and an SO who has a tough time getting up in the morning, then dealing with the unpredictability of public transportation (a bus drove clean past my stop this morning, making me have to wait for the next one).
And I'm sure part of my lateness has to do with not being at all excited about my job, as well as having a boss who doesn't really care when you show up, as long as you get the work done (which I do).
I was raised in a punctuality-deficient environment. I literally had no idea what happened in the first 10-15 minutes of Mass until I was in college, and I was in junior high when I first realized that they showed previews at the movies. So I struggled like crazy to develop some level of temporal awareness in college and the work force. (All right, I'll admit. I was just constantly late to everything in college.) It wasn't until I was a classroom teacher that I got to be any good at showing up on time to work. And if I didn't have a first period class, that pretty much went out the window.
My husband, on the other hand, can't fathom tardiness and has an actual physical reaction to the mere idea of being a few minutes late. Since we've been together, I've come to realize how much more enjoyable life is when I'm NOT late all the time, and generally get places early now so I have some time to relax. People being a little late at work (10 minutes, tops) doesn't bug me. But people blowing off 20% of a meeting or habitually screwing up my timeline because they don't know how to keep to a schedule themselves makes me bonkers.
And my family makes me totally nuts. Because none of them can be anywhere near on time to anything. Ever. I love them, but I've started to just plan around them. Like, I said we are having dinner at 6:30 at my house. If you show up at 7:15, I will direct you to the kitchen where you can make yourself a plate from what's left. They don't seem to care, and I have found it less crazy-making. (This attitude can also work in the workplace, unless the late person is your boss. Which is a whole new level of suckage...)
Our rule is, no 8am meetings. And don't expect people to get to your 1pm meeting on time. And if you call a 4pm meeting, expect a few people to leave early. I like our culture :-) Mostly serious - we start our day at 8am but our "core hours" are 9-4, and I appreciate that people give each other slack there. I'm generally here 15-20 minutes early, but on bad weather days I can easily be 5-10 minutes late because I can't drop off at daycare any earlier to compensate for the expected long drive.
But, hypocrisy annoys me. If crazy boss lady deplores tardiness in others, she needs to walk the walk.
This! It's very flexible here (federal law enforcement). There is always something popping up that can't be put off because of a meeting.
Whoa! That is ridiculous. I cannot even wrap my head around people who are that late. To me it seems so inconsiderate to everyone else.
Yeah, it was pretty awful. Normally I just accept it because we time our Holidays so that it's the only place to be the entire day. DH is going to cook dinner next year so there's no excuses. We can't be running on their crazy schedules with a new baby that needs to keep its own schedule.
Whoa! That is ridiculous. I cannot even wrap my head around people who are that late. To me it seems so inconsiderate to everyone else.
Yeah, it was pretty awful. Normally I just accept it because we time our Holidays so that it's the only place to be the entire day. DH is going to cook dinner next year so there's no excuses. We can't be running on their crazy schedules with a new baby that needs to keep its own schedule.
Exactly. This way you can control when you eat. If they are late, I guess it sucks to be them!
When it comes to meetings, I am always on time. Itis part of the workplace culture here to be very mindful of scheduled start & end times for meetings because many people have lots of them back to back here.
When it comes to my general workday, I have a lot of flexibility and I do not need to be ass in chair at precisely 8:00am - if I hit traffic, or need to make a quick errand stop en route, it's fine if I get in at 8:15 / 8:30, etc. I often work through lunch anyway so I focus more on my projects being completed and customer satisfaction than minutes on the clock. (I am also salaried).
This is me, too. Our organization seldom starts meetings before 9 because our standard workday is 8:30-5, though I come in at 8. I'm never late for meetings and I think it's disrespectful to be late without letting the organizer know ahead of time. I don't bust my butt to get to work at exactly 8, though. I'm not in a service position where if I wasn't someplace at 8 on the dot, something would suffer. Plus I usually spend a minimum of 30-45 minutes answering emails off hours each day so everything sort of balances out, probably more in the company favor than mine, really.
frozenpeas That is how my IL's are. They have this whole go with the flow attitude since they are retired and it drives me nuts. We tell them that something is 30 minutes earlier than it is so that they are close to being on time for things.
Oh goodness. Speaking of late ILs made me think of Christmas all over again. We were doing Christmas dinner at DH's grandma's house. It was scheduled for 3:30 pm. We got a call at 2:00 pm to come closer to 4:30 pm. Arrived right at 4:30 pm... and it's just me, DH, and grandma. Rest of the ILs start rolling in about an hour later. We eat dinner at 8:00 pm. DH was so fed up, I actually had to talk him down about 15 minutes before dinner was actually served because it had gotten to the point that he just wanted to leave. I was kind of shocked that my hungry pregnant self was able to show so much restraint.
My ILs are similar. There was a family reunion and dinner wasn't even rolling in until 8 PM. And there weren't really any snacks. I had brought food for DS (he was a little under 1 at the time), but by 8 PM we had a tired little guy and were at least 30-minutes from our hotel. So we left. DH and I were starving and people were giving us smack for leaving before dinner. That we should have just had DS sleep in the stroller. We're not an inflexible family, but I don't mess with the boys' sleep schedule - us/the kids end up paying. Next day the times and locations for everything kept changing. We packed up and left for home. Got smack for that too, but it was way too much chaos and stress trying to cart around the little guy when we'd get 1/2 to location a only to be called and told to drive in the opposite direction to location b.
Post by greenmonkey1 on Jan 29, 2015 15:17:13 GMT -5
To the original question, my office is pretty flexible about timeliness. The salaried staff appear between 8/8:30 and the office opens at 8. I try to get there as close to 8 as possible, but still have not gotten the morning routine with 2 kiddos to the right point. Thankfully bossman is cool with it since we all make it up.
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