FF Noob question thread

[joy]

Aug 27, 2015 14:37:27 GMT -5 mosdub said:

Jeez, that was pretty obvious, I just didn't know what I was looking for!  Thanks! 

@led is our resident FF expert.  She rocks.

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Aug 27, 2015 15:14:10 GMT -5 joy said:

Aug 27, 2015 14:37:27 GMT -5 mosdub said:

Jeez, that was pretty obvious, I just didn't know what I was looking for!  Thanks! 

@led is our resident FF expert.  She rocks.

[gabride2010]

Has anyone ever O'd without Watery or EWCM? I've read on the FF website that it is possible, so I'm looking for anecdotes.

After yesterday's temp went up I put a dummy (higher) temp in for today, and I got dotted CH on my chart. My temp went down a little today so I didn't get my CH.

Also, can I get a CS? Are my temps considered rocky (don't consider the highest temp -I didn't sleep the full 3 hours before temping)?

Lemme add my chart...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d9a32

[Rama]

Aug 27, 2015 21:02:15 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Has anyone ever O'd without Watery or EWCM? I've read on the FF website that it is possible, so I'm looking for anecdotes.

After yesterday's temp went up I put a dummy (higher) temp in for today, and I got dotted CH on my chart. My temp went down a little today so I didn't get my CH.

Also, can I get a CS? Are my temps considered rocky (don't consider the highest temp -I didn't sleep the full 3 hours before temping)?

Lemme add my chart...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d9a32

I don't see an ovulation pattern on your chart. I'd say it's a bit rocky, but not crazy. Paging @led and getzystark

[gabride2010]

Thanks Rama!

[aprilz81]

Aug 27, 2015 21:02:15 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Has anyone ever O'd without Watery or EWCM? I've read on the FF website that it is possible, so I'm looking for anecdotes.

After yesterday's temp went up I put a dummy (higher) temp in for today, and I got dotted CH on my chart. My temp went down a little today so I didn't get my CH.

Also, can I get a CS? Are my temps considered rocky (don't consider the highest temp -I didn't sleep the full 3 hours before temping)?

Lemme add my chart...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d9a32

I'm not an expert at all, but I don't see an ovulation pattern either, just typical PCOS erratic temps (I also have PCOS).

[rooskie]

Aug 27, 2015 15:07:18 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Aug 27, 2015 14:30:38 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

SMU is always darker for me than my late afternoon (around 5pm, like you). Could be the amount of water you're drinking, or it could be multiple surges. The former seems more likely to me.

ellabee - I have only ever seen a positive OPK with FMU because once I start drinking water during the day I can never hold it long enough to get a high enough concentration to turn an OPK positive with SMU or in the afternoon. So there's a good chance the lighter line in the afternoon could be due to how much you're drinking.

Do you use Wondfo's with FMU?  I'm a pee every hour on the hour person and have never seen a positive Wondfo....just curious...I need to order more...

[mosdub]

Aug 27, 2015 21:02:15 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Has anyone ever O'd without Watery or EWCM? I've read on the FF website that it is possible, so I'm looking for anecdotes.

After yesterday's temp went up I put a dummy (higher) temp in for today, and I got dotted CH on my chart. My temp went down a little today so I didn't get my CH.

Also, can I get a CS? Are my temps considered rocky (don't consider the highest temp -I didn't sleep the full 3 hours before temping)?

Lemme add my chart...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d9a32

I'm not as good as @led, but I'll try.

Might be hard to see O without having any temps from the first half of the cycle.  Right now temps don't show a shift. 

I've definitely ovulated without EWCM or watery CM.  How do you check your CM though?  I had to check internally as looking at the toilet paper was rarely revealing.  When I checked internally I could definitely see the changes in my own CM (anecdote).  

[gabride2010]

Thanks aprilz81! Do you temp orally or vaginally?

Thanks mosdub. I always check CM internally.

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Aug 27, 2015 21:02:15 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Has anyone ever O'd without Watery or EWCM? I've read on the FF website that it is possible, so I'm looking for anecdotes.

After yesterday's temp went up I put a dummy (higher) temp in for today, and I got dotted CH on my chart. My temp went down a little today so I didn't get my CH.

Also, can I get a CS? Are my temps considered rocky (don't consider the highest temp -I didn't sleep the full 3 hours before temping)?

Lemme add my chart...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d9a32

I agree with everyone else, doesn't look like you've ovulated yet. However, if your temps keep going up I could see CD 32/33 as possibilities if you just don't have much of a temp rise after ovulation. But that seems pretty unlikely as a possibility. Are you temping vaginally or orally? If you're temping orally, I would really suggest temping vaginally next cycle.

As for the CM, everyone has different amounts. If you're noticing a pattern of not having much fertile CM you might try drinking more fluids or checking internally for changes.

[aprilz81]

Aug 27, 2015 21:20:05 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Thanks aprilz81! Do you temp orally or vaginally?

Thanks mosdub. I always check CM internally.

I temp orally.  Between vag/dildo cams and baby making sex I have enough things in and out of my vagina these days.  

For the record my first month off of birth control was somewhat normal and I did get dotted cross hairs and then my period arrived after a temp drop so I *might* have ovulated that first month (last October).  Since then I've had anovulatory cycles that only ended with Provera.  I know many people still ovulate with PCOS, it is just more erratic than someone without PCOS.

If you ever do Clomid, my experience this cycle was that my temps were crazy up and down while actually taking Clomid (CD3-7) and a day or so after, then my temps dropped down and were pretty normal all things considered.  I *should* get my cross hairs tomorrow.

And there is a bunch of information that you didn't ask for.  lol

[pbsnowflake453]

What does checking CM internally actually mean? Just looking on the toilet paper isn't revealing enough for me, but I usually just feel around the vaginal opening with my finger...does that count as "internal"? Or do some people get way up in there?

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Aug 27, 2015 21:39:15 GMT -5 pbsnowflake453 said:

What does checking CM internally actually mean? Just looking on the toilet paper isn't revealing enough for me, but I usually just feel around the vaginal opening with my finger...does that count as "internal"? Or do some people get way up in there?

I get way up in there if I'm checking internally. If you check CP you can just do it at the same time. 

ETA: I typically check it in the shower in the morning. 

[LadyNymeria]

Aug 27, 2015 21:13:25 GMT -5 rooskie said:

Aug 27, 2015 15:07:18 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

ellabee - I have only ever seen a positive OPK with FMU because once I start drinking water during the day I can never hold it long enough to get a high enough concentration to turn an OPK positive with SMU or in the afternoon. So there's a good chance the lighter line in the afternoon could be due to how much you're drinking.

Do you use Wondfo's with FMU?  I'm a pee every hour on the hour person and have never seen a positive Wondfo....just curious...I need to order more...

Nope, I've used the cheapies from Target. Not as cheap as Wondfos but since I don't use them all the time it was easier to just pick up a box at Target.

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Aug 27, 2015 21:13:25 GMT -5 rooskie said:

Aug 27, 2015 15:07:18 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

ellabee - I have only ever seen a positive OPK with FMU because once I start drinking water during the day I can never hold it long enough to get a high enough concentration to turn an OPK positive with SMU or in the afternoon. So there's a good chance the lighter line in the afternoon could be due to how much you're drinking.

Do you use Wondfo's with FMU?  I'm a pee every hour on the hour person and have never seen a positive Wondfo....just curious...I need to order more...

I use FMU with my OPKs because I drink too much water and pee too much to do anything else. I use Clinical Guard (because they're cheaper than Wondfo and work just as well) and have never had an issue. I doubt it would be any different with Wondfos.

[rooskie]

Thanks LadyNymeria & @led - I've not had luck with SMU or middle of the afternoon. I just drink a lot and have a small bladder. It's a bad combo.

I have the target ones that you can pee directly on and might buy some more for next month. Easier while on vacation. I'll probably look into the clinical guard ones for cycle 15.....

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Aug 27, 2015 22:25:30 GMT -5 rooskie said:

Thanks LadyNymeria & @led - I've not had luck with SMU or middle of the afternoon. I just drink a lot and have a small bladder. It's a bad combo.

I have the target ones that you can pee directly on and might buy some more for next month. Easier while on vacation. I'll probably look into the clinical guard ones for cycle 15.....

LINK This is where I get mine. I haven't used their hpts in years, but they were reliable last time I used them.

[LadyNymeria]

Aug 27, 2015 22:25:30 GMT -5 rooskie said:

Thanks LadyNymeria & @led - I've not had luck with SMU or middle of the afternoon. I just drink a lot and have a small bladder. It's a bad combo.

I have the target ones that you can pee directly on and might buy some more for next month. Easier while on vacation. I'll probably look into the clinical guard ones for cycle 15.....

I use the strips from Target that you dip in a cup (not the pee right on them ones you mentioned). You could try those if you want to pick up some quick without having to order.

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Aug 27, 2015 21:02:15 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Has anyone ever O'd without Watery or EWCM? I've read on the FF website that it is possible, so I'm looking for anecdotes.

After yesterday's temp went up I put a dummy (higher) temp in for today, and I got dotted CH on my chart. My temp went down a little today so I didn't get my CH.

Also, can I get a CS? Are my temps considered rocky (don't consider the highest temp -I didn't sleep the full 3 hours before temping)?

Lemme add my chart...

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d9a32

I don't think that you O'd either, but don't forget that you can discard temps if they are way off the norm for you.

[gabride2010]

Thanks aprilz81. I appreciate the info!

pbsnowflake453 I do exactly what @led does. I check CM in the shower every morning. I don't check CP though.

@wallflwr926 This is my first cycle temping, so I'm not really sure what my normal temps are. Should I discard the highest temp?

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Aug 28, 2015 5:07:22 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Thanks aprilz81. I appreciate the info!

pbsnowflake453 I do exactly what @led does. I check CM in the shower every morning. I don't check CP though.

@wallflwr926 This is my first cycle temping, so I'm not really sure what my normal temps are. Should I discard the highest temp?

As a rule you shouldn't discard temps. However, if you didn't sleep or have a fever or have been drinking and have an unusually high temp, you can mark it as such in the "specific" tab and it'll give you an open circle. There are only a few instances where discarding a temp is beneficial. 

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Aug 28, 2015 5:43:22 GMT -5 @led said:

Aug 28, 2015 5:07:22 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Thanks aprilz81. I appreciate the info!

pbsnowflake453 I do exactly what @led does. I check CM in the shower every morning. I don't check CP though.

@wallflwr926 This is my first cycle temping, so I'm not really sure what my normal temps are. Should I discard the highest temp?

As a rule you shouldn't discard temps. However, if you didn't sleep or have a fever or have been drinking and have an unusually high temp, you can mark it as such in the "specific" tab and it'll give you an open circle. There are only a few instances where discarding a temp is beneficial. 

Very true. I blame late night for not explaining further.

[aprilz81]

Since I don't ovulate on my own (lazy, messed up ovaries) I have no experience with ovulation "symptoms" and the TWW.

This week I've been kind of constipated and bloated that I didn't connect with ovulation, but could it be related?

Last night (2DPO) I had some period like cramping for about 5 minutes, totally normal, right?

[gabride2010]

Thanks @led and @wallflwr926!

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Aug 28, 2015 8:36:33 GMT -5 aprilz81 said:

Since I don't ovulate on my own (lazy, messed up ovaries) I have no experience with ovulation "symptoms" and the TWW.

This week I've been kind of constipated and bloated that I didn't connect with ovulation, but could it be related?

Last night (2DPO) I had some period like cramping for about 5 minutes, totally normal, right?

Cramping, bloating, nausea, GI changes, appetite changes, etc. can all be related to ovulation. Totally normal. 

[getzystark]

Aug 28, 2015 8:36:33 GMT -5 aprilz81 said:

Since I don't ovulate on my own (lazy, messed up ovaries) I have no experience with ovulation "symptoms" and the TWW.

This week I've been kind of constipated and bloated that I didn't connect with ovulation, but could it be related?

Last night (2DPO) I had some period like cramping for about 5 minutes, totally normal, right?

I bloat something fierce right before and after ovulation. I also get weird period-ish cramps a few days after O, up to my entire LP. Totes normal.

[getzystark]

I'm late but gabride2010, you can look at my charts. I'm a messed up Oer and my body Os whether there's fertile CM or not. You can look at one of my charts here and see that.

I also agree with all the lovely, smart ladies here. No O pattern for you yet. Lazy ovaries suck.

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Aug 28, 2015 8:51:40 GMT -5 getzystark said:

I'm late but gabride2010, you can look at my charts. I'm a messed up Oer and my body Os whether there's fertile CM or not. You can look at one of my charts here and see that.

I also agree with all the lovely, smart ladies here. No O pattern for you yet. Lazy ovaries suck.

FYI, both of those charts show fertile CM before ovulation. 

[getzystark]

Aug 28, 2015 8:56:28 GMT -5 @led said:

Aug 28, 2015 8:51:40 GMT -5 getzystark said:

I'm late but gabride2010, you can look at my charts. I'm a messed up Oer and my body Os whether there's fertile CM or not. You can look at one of my charts here and see that.

I also agree with all the lovely, smart ladies here. No O pattern for you yet. Lazy ovaries suck.

FYI, both of those charts show fertile CM before ovulation. 

Shit. I was trying to show my October one.

Damn you FF!!!

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Aug 28, 2015 9:03:43 GMT -5 getzystark said:

Aug 28, 2015 8:56:28 GMT -5 @led said:

FYI, both of those charts show fertile CM before ovulation. 

Shit. I was trying to show my October one.

Damn you FF!!!

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