joy - That's kind of insane. Since Clomid blocks estrogen receptors, and estrogen is the "feel good" hormone for women (from what I understand?), I'd think that side effect is kind of a no-brainer. I definitely got horrible emotional swings on Clomid.
Right??
I'm just frustrated and venting. I'm aware that I'm very well educated on this topic and I understand a lot more than the average patient (perhaps, not sure). So, I like to hear about how many eggs I have, what size they are, how thick my lining is, do I have cysts, what my E2 numbers are, etc. But, each fellow has their own level of what they're willing to share so if I get an unsharey one, then I have to ask and ask and ask. AND ASK. And then they're surprised when I say something logical back to them.
She also asked if I felt that way while I was taking it? When I said no, she made a face like "Well, then it wasn't the Clomid."
EFF YOU, FELLOW, for making me feel even more crazy.
joy That is so fucking ridiculous. I remember when I first said something to the RE, I honestly thought it was the progesterone because my symptoms were after I ovulated. He said to me, "No, that's the Clomid. :::lots of science talk about hormones here::: So, you'll feel the side effects after you ovulate."
UPDATE: Well, there was something wrong with the paperwork and it sat in a holding pattern at RE's office with no one following up on it. Now everyone is rushing around doing what should have been done in the first place and putting it through ASAP. They said that they hope to hear something tomorrow. Then this happened:
Me: So, is the ICSI on the paperwork for approval?
Financial Coordinator: Nope. Don't see it on here. Did you want that?
Me: No, I NEED that. RE said I need it. We didn't do it the first time, so it definitely needs to get approved for this time around.
Financial Coordinator: Oh......ok.....well, I'll try to get that on here.
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UPDATE: Well, there was something wrong with the paperwork and it sat in a holding pattern at RE's office with no one following up on it. Now everyone is rushing around doing what should have been done in the first place and putting it through ASAP. They said that they hope to hear something tomorrow. Then this happened:
Me: So, is the ICSI on the paperwork for approval?
Financial Coordinator: Nope. Don't see it on here. Did you want that?
Me: No, I NEED that. RE said I need it. We didn't do it the first time, so it definitely needs to get approved for this time around.
Financial Coordinator: Oh......ok.....well, I'll try to get that on here.
huge hugs cateyes. I know what you mean about the numb feeling. That's great that your H is stepping up and being so involved and supportive. wannabmama best of luck on Thursday! mrsjene I fucking hate insurance companies. All the red tape is so frustrating. Hugs and I hope you get it worked out soon. goldenlove3 sorry about the hot flashes, and best of luck this week! mugster sending every good thought your way for you and YH and your embie. dke2010 fx for you! rooskie I agree with what's already been said here - FSAs are a great tax benefit and I would err on the side of maxing out if you are OOP for everything. If you don't get pregnant soon you will be using it for more fertility stuff. If you do it's likely you will have plenty of co-pays and other expenses. Good luck! requiressnacks fx for you this cycle! have fun in Vegas! youdontsay best of luck at your consult. @underdog25 yay for getting things started! exciting! twinkie0612 have fun at acupuncture! I really look forward to it every week. getzystark hope O comes soon! joy hugs. it's so incredibly annoying when doctors are dismissive of symptoms. it's like, do they think we're lying or something? crazy.
AFM, just hanging out in the TWW. Next cycle (if necessary, haha, I feel so dumb having the hope to still say that) we will be moving to IUI with injectables. So for the next 10 days I'm enjoying all the wine because I think I'm going to stop drinking for the medicated cycles. Looking forward to all of my friends accusing me of being pregnant
Sorry for the PNR this week but I wanted to get a question in.
We are doing open enrollment at work and I'm thinking about putting money on my FSA card to help pay for cycles, etc when we finally get to the RE after our second SA. Do you ladies normally do that and if so how much should we be thinking about? We are OOP for everything fertility related and have already been told $50 for Clomid and $320 for monitoring ultrasounds. We don't have any other prescriptions or glasses, etc and its use it or lose it.
AFM I took my test Saturday and it has really helped distract me. We are in the TWW so in 2 weeks or so I'll be setting up the SA and an initial appointment with the RE that my OBGYN recommended.
We maxed out our HRA for 2015 because we thought I'd have labor and delivery costs to pay for, but that didn't happen. We're on our 2nd medicated TI and we've already used about $1500.
So, H has his meeting with an urologist on Friday to discuss his 1% morph and low mobility to see if anything can be done to improve his numbers. I talked to the nurse in the RE's office about my test results that I had done. I have a .1 AMH level which sucks. The only option we have based on the results of H and my results is IVF if we want a biological child. Or a chance at it anyway. The hospital won't do IVF due to it being Catholic based but we can go to another hospital in town that would. Or somewhere completely different of course. I could see the same RE to discuss all of this but if he can't do anything I don't feel like it is worth it-might as well call the other hospital and meet with them and go from there. The nurse was very nice and helpful and gave me a website to look at for IVF success rates and knows it is a lot to take in and if we want to discuss it further with them we can.
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My faint BFP Friday has gotten darker everyday and there is no denying it now. EDD is July 6th, 2016. Thank you ladies so much for all the support through the ups and downs. I will continue to lurk and stalk all of your utes.
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Hugs cateyes. It's great that YH is stepping up and hopefully the new RE will be able to help.
wannabmama - Good luck this cycle! Hope your monitoring appointment on Thursday goes well.
All the hugs, mrsjene. FX the insurance people figure everything out and do things correctly ASAP.
goldenlove3 - Good luck at your appointments this week. Yay for being done with Clomid and all the annoying side effects!
mugster - praying for you and lil Muggy. Stick little embie!!!!!
dke2010 - FX for you this cycle! Hopefully the higher med dosage was helpful!
rooskie - GL figuring out all of the insurance stuff! I've also been dealing with insurance calculations lately and trying to figure out if we should do the high deductible plan with HSA or the regular PPO plan. It's hard to anticipate what would be the most cost effective when I have no idea if I will get pregnant next year or not, and what treatments will be necessary to get us there...
requiressnacks - Woohoo Vegas! Glad you're having a good trip and can focus on other things besides TTC.
youdontsay - FX for a good consult appointment on Friday.
@underdog25 - Good luck! Hope stimming goes smoothly for you!
getzystark - so excited for you! FX for early O so you guys can get this show on the road soon!
butlerfan - sorry for all of the bad news. Hope you can find a great RE at the other hospital and get started with IVF.
Welcome, pippacricket! Hope everything goes smoothly as you prepare for IVF!
AFM, I had my CD3 bloodwork last Tuesday and everything came back normal. H submitted his sample for his SA last Friday, and we're still waiting to hear the results (we should hear today or tomorrow). H had some difficulty producing his sample... he had to do it really early in the morning right after he woke up and said it was just a weird experience for him... He didn't think the amount he produced felt normal. So we're thinking he might have to repeat the SA because there just wasn't much there to analyze. If his counts are low, I think the RE will recommend that we go right to IVF, and we're still kind of on the fence about if/when we want to do that. Every time I try to talk to H about it, he says that he doesn't like worrying about it and we can figure it out later. So it's hard to figure out exactly what he wants to do when he doesn't even want to talk about the subject.
We are TTA this cycle so it's kind of nice to get a break from worrying about TTC.
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
{Click here to see more.}cateyes, big big hugs. I'm glad that your H took some initiative. I bet that must make you feel so much better. wannabmama, good luck on your IUI. mrsjene, I'm so sorry that your insurance is being an asshole. I'd be livid too! goldenlove3, praying IUI 6 is the one. mugster, I am praying so hard for you and Lil'Muggy! dke2010, fx!! rooskie, good luck with the SA and initial RE appointment! requiressnacks, have fun in Vegas! Glad you get to enjoy yourself. youdontsay, hope your WTF appointment gets you some answers. @underdog25, how exciting that you're so close to treatment! twinkie0612, hope the acupuncture helps. I've always wanted to try it. getzystark, glad you're thinking positively. It can't hurt! kawaiikitsune, hugs if you need them. piccyami, sorry for the waiting for CD1. That's just the worst. joy,I swear that the doctors always tell me shit like that. "I've never heard of those side effects." Then I look online and it's super common. I'd be super annoyed by not having the same doctor too. emilie, I hope the injectables do it for you! butlerfan, I'm sorry for the news that you need to do IVF to have a biological child. I think that seeing a new RE makes the most sense. Big hugs. housecarder, OMG congrats lady! pippacricket, good luck with IVF! I hope your stay here is short! ceejay, my H thought his amount was low too but it ended up being just fine. However, I hope that if you do get a bad result that your H can do it again.
AFM: I'm in a bad place. My back has been hurting really bad and my arm has been tingling (for a long time, though the docs kept saying it was stress...) so after going to the doctors a million times, I have been referred to both a cardiologist and a neurologist. Because of this we are of course TTA right now. I know this is the right thing to do, but I feel awful physically and emotionally. Every month that goes by makes me sadder and sadder. My health is the most important thing right now and I know that, but the thought that we are OADNBC is not pleasant.
What makes me the saddest is that I can't even adopt internationally (something I've wanted to do a long time) now. My health and the fact that I've taken anti-depressants makes us ineligible. I'm trying my best not to hate everything but it's hard.
Post by wannabmama on Oct 26, 2015 17:38:22 GMT -5
butlerfan I'm curious to hear if the urologist has any ideas for YH. I'm trying to get mine to go...but his sense of urgency is lacking. IVF is a lot to take in... setsuna17 I'm sorry this is all piling on you. I hope you get some answers about your health soon, at least.
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
cateyes, Thanks for adding me to the check in. I'm sorry that you were feeling so burnt out on TTC, but I am glad that YH is stepping up to take some of the pressure off of you.
wannabmama, that's great that you haven't felt too many side effects! Good luck with your IUI, I hope it goes smoothly.
mrsjene, huge hugs! I hope that it gets sorted out. I hate when other people drop the ball on important things. Deep breaths and hopefully they will be on top of it.
goldenlove3, good luck with your IUI. FX this one works.
mugster, huge hugs. Sending good vibes your way and FX lil muggy sticks!
rooskie, I have no advice with insurance but I hope that it works out for you.
requiressnacks, have fun on your vacation! Its great weather right now:)
@underdog25, it's getting so close! Hope it all goes smoothly!
getzystark, yay! It's finally coming together! Hopefully this time goes by quickly
joy, that is so annoying. I feel like half the time they don't take what you say into consideration, because why would you know more then them? Hopefully you can have a good talk with your RE about that. housecarder, congrats!!! pippacricket, good luck with IVF, that's great the insurance helps with it:) ceejay, I fell you about YH and IVF, we aren't at that point yet, but he doesn't want to talk about it either. It's hard to figure anything out when he doesn't let me know what his thoughts are. setsuna17, I am so sorry, big hugs. You are right though, you have to put your health first. Maybe it won't take too long and it can be a easy fix so you can get back into TTC faster then you think.
AFM, this is my first official check in. My RE appt isn't until late November. I'm not temping this cycle, I needed a break from being consumed with TTC. I don't think I have Od yet, but still HIO to at least say we had a shot with cycle 13. MH isn't being very open about how he feels about seeing an RE, he has been vocal about not wanting to do IVF though. Which is frustrating because we haven't even had the meeting yet. I asked him to just keep an open mind about it for now. I am already discouraged, and am trying to stay positive. I am leaving him alone about all of it for now and hopefully he will have an opinion about it once we do our consult.
Have any of your SOs been apprehensive about seeing an RE when you first started this process? Anything help them with feeling comfortable?
He didn't think the amount he produced felt normal. So we're thinking he might have to repeat the SA because there just wasn't much there to analyze.
My husband had this experience, too. It wasn't early or anything and there wasn't any particular problems (that he mentioned), but he kept saying that he was sure he didn't produce enough and that it looked pretty bad. All his counts/numbers came back fine, though. I think it's intimidating to get the bottle and assume you're supposed to fill it up, but I'm pretty confident at saying that that's not necessary. Hopefully that cheers him up a little. :)
Post by wannabmama on Oct 26, 2015 18:46:27 GMT -5
easilyunamused MH is having a hard time with everything. When I first went to the RE, testing, now IUI, etc. Weirdly, though, it's helped our communication in our marriage a lot because I know now how he needs to get the info. I'm sure each guy is different...but it works for us for him to hear bits and pieces, then have time to process it. He can't handle too much at once. I know if he came to the RR with me now it would help, though in the beginning I think he would've freaked out only bc he didn't know anything about this process, his friends are all popping out kids, etc. I guess, bottom line, if he needs some time, give him some...MH comes around on his own once he has all the info, but he takes some time processing. I know everyone's different...so regardless, good luck! I hope the consult goes well! Edit: holy shit that was long cut it down!
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
My faint BFP Friday has gotten darker everyday and there is no denying it now. EDD is July 6th, 2016. Thank you ladies so much for all the support through the ups and downs. I will continue to lurk and stalk all of your utes.
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