TWD Oct. 25 (Spoilers, obv!)

[kawaiikitsune]

Last night's episode was a doozy, to say the least. This is how I've basically been feeling since it ended :



Tell us about your feels.

[sleepymonkey]

That episode hurt. I *almost* cried. I have been telling MH since last season that I thought Glenn was going to die soon but I did not see last night coming. I'm so mixed on whether he's actually dead or not. The fact that they didn't show him in the "In Memorium" part of The Talking Dead was very telling, IMO. Even if he died and shows up in flashbacks or as a "ghost", they would have shown him on there like they did with Lori when she died (and no one actually saw Carl shooting her). While I think it's likely that what the walkers we eating was Nicholas' body on top of Glenn's, I found it a bit ridiculous that at least one didn't go after Glenn's face. Walkers are not picky as to what parts they'll eat. Like ****** said, I think he will end up being bit but will make it back to Alexandria barely alive so he can say goodbye to Maggie. I think she is pregnant and he already knows because in the first episode she said she would go on the mission to the quarry and he said no. She asked why and he said "You know why."

Everyone thinks that they would never kill Glenn any way other than the way he dies in the comic because it was such an iconic death but I think that's the reason they would kill him in a different way than in the comic. They like to surprise people with deaths, especially main characters, and anyone who has any knowledge of the comic would see Glenn's death coming once they introduce the person who kills him, which they supposedly are doing towards the end of the season.

Other thoughts:
I think Judith was taken by Enid because why else would they have made a point of showing her on the baby monitor at the beginning of last episode?
I'm not sure what to think about Rick's hand. I don't think he was bit, I think it was from when his blade broke. But I really hope he doesn't become one-handed Rick - too much like Merle.
I am not looking forward to next week's Morgan episode. I like the character but after this week and last week, I don't care what he was doing in the time between when Rick last saw him and now.

[kawaiikitsune]

I was picking up on some signs that Glenn was probably going to die (taking Hershel's watch out of his pocket, the way he was talking, etc.) so I was sort of expecting it. Still not prepared, emotionally. Although, and I'm probably alone in this, I am kind of glad it happened like this and not on the receiving end of Lucille. That devastated me in the comics and I actually had to put it down and walk away for a bit. It does raise some questions though on if they will even keep that iconic death scene and if so, who will be killed by Lucille/Negan.

I was also thinking that Enid/Wolves have Judith. The baby food in that guy's pocket can't be a coincidence.

I know something is up with Rick's hand, I assume he was nicked by a walker maybe. I really like your prediction regarding it, ******. That would be a really interesting way to incorporate that piece of story line.

I am now anxiously awaiting next week's episode and hoping for some answers.

ETA - 
sleepymonkey - Scott Gimple explained the reason why Glenn was not in the "Memoriam" segment -http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-glenn-dead-producers-834509

danib - The one guy didn't get bitten, the coward who pulled the gun before taking off shot him in the leg.

[kawaiikitsune]

Oct 26, 2015 12:27:11 GMT -5 ****** said:

Oct 26, 2015 12:25:23 GMT -5 kawaiikitsune said:

I was picking up on some signs that Glenn was probably going to die (taking Hershel's watch out of his pocket, the way he was talking, etc.) so I was sort of expecting it. Still not prepared, emotionally. Although, and I'm probably alone in this, I am kind of glad it happened like this and not on the receiving end of Lucille. That devastated me in the comics and I actually had to put it down and walk away for a bit. It does raise some questions though on if they will even keep that iconic death scene and if so, who will be killed by Lucille/Negan.

I was also thinking that Enid/Wolves have Judith. The baby food in that guy's pocket can't be a coincidence.

I know something is up with Rick's hand, I assume he was nicked by a walker maybe. I really like your prediction regarding it, ******. That would be a really interesting way to incorporate that piece of story line.

I am now anxiously awaiting next week's episode and hoping for some answers.

unfortunately, next week looks to be all about Morgan. Which, the producers like to keep you waiting after a big episode like that.

Urgh, I forgot about that. Dang it.

[sleepymonkey]

kawaiikitsune, I don't think Gimple's explanation explains anything. Lori was seen as a ghost multiple times after her death on the show (which we did not see) but she was still shown on the "In Memorium" part of Talking Dead. If Glenn is dead but will be seen in flashbacks, why would they not still include him if we are all to believe he is truly dead?

I think another potential storyline for Glenn is that he has survived somehow and starts making his way back to Alexandria. Before he gets there, he runs into the Wolves. The Wolves are not in the comic but people say they could be a mash-up of the Scavengers and the Saviors from the comic. I think Negan could be who is the head of the Wolves, he runs in to Glenn, finds out Glenn is heading back to Alexandria and kills him in retribution of the Wolves that Carol killed. That way it blends the comic book death in to the show without it being exactly the same. And this would happen at the end of the mid-season finale because the past few seasons, they have killed a key character in the midseason finale - Season 4 was Herschel, Season 5 was Beth, they could finish killing off Maggie's loved ones in Season 6.

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{Spoiler}I have read in multiple places that Steven Yeun (Glenn) is still being spotted on set.

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I don't think Enid has Judith; if so then she is definitely with the Wolves and I do not buy that. Otherwise just no, young teen on her own with a baby?

Hated the scene with Glenn; I do not think he is dead right now but also do not believe he'll be around for long so I love your theory sleepymonkey, !

I think Rick cut his hand on the blade as mentioned above and he will eventually lose it like in the comic. DNW an entire episode on Morgan.

[jubilantsquirrel]

I have to think that Glenn is dead. I don't want to think that, but I can't handle hanging on to hope that he's alive only to lose him all over again.

I think Maggie is pregnant, but I think Glenn already knew this. That's why in the first episode they were talking about why she had to stay behind in Alexandria, and then in this episode all Glenn kept talking about was how he had to get home.

I think Rick will likely lose his hand from his injury.

I don't think Enid is with the Wolves. I mean, it's possible, especially since we know very little about her, but I just don't see it. I also don't think the Wolves took Judith. That seems like a weird thing to do for a group that is clearly high on bloodlust.

[jubilantsquirrel]

I like your theory sleepymonkey. I don't think my heart could handle that, but it would definitely make sense as to why we don't have confirmation of Glenn's death yet.

[juliayadda]

I also think Rick will lose his hand. I don't think Enid has Judith. I actually didn't think anyone had Judith until now that y'all mentioned it.

I hated that Nick guy all along. Now he is my most hated Character, aside from the Governor of course. So useless and just getting people killed.

I think I will just wait two weeks so I can watch the Morgan episode and immediately watch the next episode.

[kawaiikitsune]

The only problem with that theory is that Negan has yet to be cast. And Kirkman has alluded in interviews that he likely won't be seen until next season. Glenn has been in tight spots before but honestly, even if it was Nicholas being eaten, I highly doubt the walkers will finish with him and just saunter off. Let's say he does go under the dumpster, it is a small space and he is vulnerable from all angles. We already know walkers can get down and search under stuff. He has no bullets, nothing but a blade and it is highly unlikely that he could take out that entire herd of walkers. I had much love for Glenn, he was one of the last remaining members of the original group, but I am going with him being dead.

[LadyNymeria]

Just caught up on this season. Fucking Nicholas!!! I just knew something was going to happen to Glenn when they climbed up on the dumpster but I'm so mad. Glenn did not deserve to go out like that.

[ceejay]

I finally watched the episode tonight (we were out of town at a wedding last night and I was so anxious to watch!).

I loved reading all of your theories. When I saw TWD, I was totally sure that Glenn was dead. But then after watching Talking Dead, I don't think he is actually dead. The facts that he wasn't in the "In Memorium" or a guest on TD make it clear (to me) that he isn't technically dead yet. Assuming he was underneath Nicholas who was actually being eaten, I don't see how Glenn could have gotten out of that situation without at least a bite or two, and I don't think Glenn will survive this season... but I don't think he actually died in this week's episode.

Not sure what to think about Judith. I agree that the baby food could have been a clue that the Wolves might have her, but why would they want a baby? From what we know about the Wolves, I just can't think of any reason that they would have wanted to take Judith.

[ceejay]

Also, the Alexandrians are the WORST. They are such a liability. I would rather have a walker on my team than an Alexandrian.

[RajahMD]

Fucking Nicotero. He did an interview with tv guide and was super vague. I don't get why they are pretty much refusing to state either way. It's ridiculous.

www.tvguide.com/news/walking-dead-boss-on-that-possible-death/

[LadyNymeria]

Oct 27, 2015 13:53:15 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Fucking Nicotero. He did an interview with tv guide and was super vague. I don't get why they are pretty much refusing to state either way. It's ridiculous.

www.tvguide.com/news/walking-dead-boss-on-that-possible-death/

Some people think he might come back as a walker. So he would be dead but not gone from the show.

[sleepymonkey]

Oct 27, 2015 14:17:26 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Oct 27, 2015 13:53:15 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Fucking Nicotero. He did an interview with tv guide and was super vague. I don't get why they are pretty much refusing to state either way. It's ridiculous.

www.tvguide.com/news/walking-dead-boss-on-that-possible-death/

Some people think he might come back as a walker. So he would be dead but not gone from the show.

I really hope they don't do that. For some reason, I don't want to see main characters as walkers. It was heartbreaking enough to see him (maybe) die but it would be really sad to see him as a walker. Besides, if he was being ripped apart and devoured like it looked like he was, there would be nothing left to come back as a walker.

[LadyNymeria]

Oct 27, 2015 14:34:04 GMT -5 sleepymonkey said:

Oct 27, 2015 14:17:26 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Some people think he might come back as a walker. So he would be dead but not gone from the show.

I really hope they don't do that. For some reason, I don't want to see main characters as walkers. It was heartbreaking enough to see him (maybe) die but it would be really sad to see him as a walker. Besides, if he was being ripped apart and devoured like it looked like he was, there would be nothing left to come back as a walker.

Good point. Hadn't thought of that.

As much as I don't want him dead, it would be SERIOUSLY far fetched if he wasn't dead. I can't imagine that was Nicholas laying on top of him. Wasn't Glenn screaming? He seems smart enough and put together enough to realize that if they weren't actively biting him he should stay quiet. But he was screaming, right? (I just watched this last night, I can't believe I can't really remember if he was yelling or not)

[sleepymonkey]

Oct 27, 2015 14:41:25 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Oct 27, 2015 14:34:04 GMT -5 sleepymonkey said:

I really hope they don't do that. For some reason, I don't want to see main characters as walkers. It was heartbreaking enough to see him (maybe) die but it would be really sad to see him as a walker. Besides, if he was being ripped apart and devoured like it looked like he was, there would be nothing left to come back as a walker.

Good point. Hadn't thought of that.

As much as I don't want him dead, it would be SERIOUSLY far fetched if he wasn't dead. I can't imagine that was Nicholas laying on top of him. Wasn't Glenn screaming? He seems smart enough and put together enough to realize that if they weren't actively biting him he should stay quiet. But he was screaming, right? (I just watched this last night, I can't believe I can't really remember if he was yelling or not)

I agree. Even with Nicholas falling on top of him, it wouldn't take a herd that long to tear through him and get to Glenn. If he's not dead, I can't wait to see how they try to explain how he survived, especially is he wasn't bitten at all.