Help! Chart stalk please.

[RajahMD]

Gah! My temps this cycle are really confusing FF (and me).

CM, CP, and probable O pain match up with O being on CD12. However, I had a large temp drop on CD15. Most of the temps between CD12 and now otherwise have been in my post-O range from last cycle (I think CD14 may have been a fall back rise).

I'm not sure I trust the temp drop on CD15 for two reasons. (1) The house was signicantly colder when I woke up that morning than other mornings this cycle. (2) I did not wear underwear that night. Looking back, my temps seem to be a tenth or so lower on the nights that I did not wear underwear. I am wondering if underwear can affect vaginal temps the same way that mouth breathing can affect oral temps. Together, I think these two factors may have causes a falsely low temp.

Here's the conundrum: I get dotted CH for CD15 if I leave that temp in my chart. If I discard it, I get solid CH on CD12, because it matches the rest of my signs.

Help! What are GKU's thoughts on my chart? I'm including screenshots for comparison (and for mobile users).

[mikaela20]

The pics are broken and don't come up- can you add the link to your chart instead?

[RajahMD]

Dec 23, 2015 7:12:06 GMT -5 mikaela20 said:

The pics are broken and don't come up- can you add the link to your chart instead?

Fixed it! Having troubles getting used to Imgur.

[RajahMD]

Here's the link to my chart: www.fertilityfriend.com/home/RajahMD.

I realized that while the pictures make comparisons easy, they leave out the other sign info. Whoopsies!

[mikaela20]

I'm am likely not going to be too helpful as I struggle with my own chart.

I find fertile cm to be less reliable as I get it sometimes no where near my O date. Unless you were drinking or had no sleep, I would keep the temp in and see how the rest of the cycle looks. I can't really pinpoint the O day but that's because they are hard for me to read as well.

The best advice I am given when my chart isn't clear is to keep humping it out and wait it out.

[ironbaby]

I trust FF's date. I see the case for a fallback rise, but I don't tend to believe it.

[juliayadda]

I agree with CD 15.

[lavinia]

Dec 23, 2015 8:36:17 GMT -5 juliayadda said:

I agree with CD 15.

+1

[cheezee]

Based on your other signs I would go with CD12.

[wannabmama]

I'm not an expert and my chart is always wonky, but I'd vote CD15 too.

[requiressnacks]

I am leaning towards CD15, but I think it'll become more clear once you have a few more temps.

[JustJudy]

If your CD 14 temp was higher I'd lean more towards CD12, but without that I'm agreeing with CD15

[kayladawn91]

I'm leaning toward CD15 for O as well.

[peaseblossom55]

I think CD15 as well.

[lilsneezy]

I was going to say CD15 but then I clicked on your chart and saw your other data so I'm going to go with CD12. Have you thought about adding in OPKs?

[RajahMD]

Dec 23, 2015 10:35:08 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

I was going to say CD15 but then I clicked on your chart and saw your other data so I'm going to go with CD12. Have you thought about adding in OPKs?

I've thought about it, but my work schedule is just not conducive to POAS at work. If I were able to consistently pee around the same time everyday, I might consider it. But the hospital is just too crazy for me to think about trying to use OPKs at work.

If this cycle doesn't work out, I may consider testing at home in the evenings, but even that isn't very consistent so I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

[RajahMD]

Thanks for your helps guys!

[Rama]

I trust temps over everything else. I'd say CD15.

[pismoduo]

Dec 23, 2015 10:37:38 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Dec 23, 2015 10:35:08 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

I was going to say CD15 but then I clicked on your chart and saw your other data so I'm going to go with CD12. Have you thought about adding in OPKs?

I've thought about it, but my work schedule is just not conducive to POAS at work. If I were able to consistently pee around the same time everyday, I might consider it. But the hospital is just too crazy for me to think about trying to use OPKs at work.

If this cycle doesn't work out, I may consider testing at home in the evenings, but even that isn't very consistent so I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

You might be overthinking the OPK and timing thing. As long as you're not using FMU, you'd probably be fine no matter what time you pee. I've taken OPKs anywhere from 9am to 9pm and still gotten what seem to be valid results (lined up against CM and such).

I'd give it a shot, anyway. I waited until cycle 9 or 10 to start using them and immediately wished I'd started with them earlier.

[cheezee]

Dec 23, 2015 10:37:38 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Dec 23, 2015 10:35:08 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

I was going to say CD15 but then I clicked on your chart and saw your other data so I'm going to go with CD12. Have you thought about adding in OPKs?

I've thought about it, but my work schedule is just not conducive to POAS at work. If I were able to consistently pee around the same time everyday, I might consider it. But the hospital is just too crazy for me to think about trying to use OPKs at work.

If this cycle doesn't work out, I may consider testing at home in the evenings, but even that isn't very consistent so I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

I work 12 hour shifts and can't do OPKs at work either. I know everyone is different but I've never had a problem catching my surge with FMU. You may give that a shot to help!

[notagoddess]

I think CD 15 too, but is it possible you haven't ovulated at all yet? I would keep having sex a few more days, until it's more clear what is going on.

Regarding OPKs, I use Wondfos with FMU and I can detect my surge without a problem. You can also get the ClearBlue Digital OPKs where you are instructed to use FMU. Even if your wake up time isn't consistent, there's a good chance you'll see your surge.

[daisy818]

+1 to CD15, pending a few more days of temps to confirm.

I have used Wondfo-type OPKs (Wondfos never worked for me, I use something called BFP brand) and I'm crazy inconsistent in the time of day that I test (sometimes at lunch if I'm home, sometimes after work, sometimes with SMU on weekends - basically, when I'm home and remember to grab an OPK strip before I pee) and I was usually still able to catch my surge. If this cycle doesn't work out it may be worth giving cheapies a try, even if you aren't getting to test the same time each day.

I am switching to the Clearblue Digital this month per RE's recommendation. Pro tip if you would try to go that route, he said that they have the original and the Clearblue Advanced Digital - apparently the original is actually more accurate than the Advanced, in his experience.

[LadyNymeria]

Dec 23, 2015 14:07:03 GMT -5 notagoddess said:

I think CD 15 too, but is it possible you haven't ovulated at all yet? I would keep having sex a few more days, until it's more clear what is going on.

Regarding OPKs, I use Wondfos with FMU and I can detect my surge without a problem. You can also get the ClearBlue Digital OPKs where you are instructed to use FMU. Even if your wake up time isn't consistent, there's a good chance you'll see your surge.

RajahMD - I use Wondfos and the CB Easy Digital (blank circle or smile face, NOT the Advanced one with the blinking smile) both with FMU and it's been working for me so far. With the Wondfos I tend not to get a positive, but will get a really dark negative which I consider positive if I see subsequent Wondfos getting lighter. The darkest negative Wondfo and smile face on the CB Digital have lined up the 3 months I've done this.