New sh*tty sleep thread

[Deleted]

after 2 good sleeper days, LO decides to revert back to newborn status last night. Went to sleep at 630 and woke at 9, 11, 1, 3, and woke up for the day at 445 by pooping and laughing in her crib. F*ck this

[mbjune13]

@poppyc8 I'm sorry LO was up so much! I hope tonight is better!

LO refuses to go to bed before 10 every night. I have tried everything! Last night she wouldn't sleep in her crib at all. She has to sleep in our bed with me holding her so no sleep for me.

[alayne926]

Does this count if it's my 3 year old? I fought him for an hour to go to sleep, he slept till 1:30ish, took him back to bed. I must have fallen asleep in there cause I went back to my room at 4:45. S decided to try to wake up at 5:45...NOPE! I gave her her binkie and turned on her giraffe. Got up at 6 to make a bottle for DH and try to get in the shower before the kids woke up...NOPE! DS woke up demanding breakfast.

[ashbash]

@poppyc8 thats a rough one girl, im sorry

We are making slooooow progress with Cs sleep. Last night was put himself to sleep at 8, up at 11:30 nursed and went back down, up at 2:45, nursed but was half awake half asleep and rolled around his crib until he starting crying at 3:30 when DH went and rocked him back asleep. Up at 5:30, rocked back to sleep and slept until 7

I am thinking and hoping our key will come with night weaning but since he has dropped % Im not ready yet. He has really taken off with his solids this week so hopefully that continues and in a month or so I can start night weaning

[Deleted]

P is not only getting up every two hours these nights, he is now also screaming for half an hour when he wakes up at 2. I just can't....

[Deleted]

Jan 8, 2016 9:56:42 GMT -5 @jimbobcooter said:

P is not only getting up every two hours these nights, he is now also screaming for half an hour when he wakes up at 2. I just can't....

This is us too. I never imagined I would have a 7 month old up every 2 hrs. DS was pretty much sleeping through from 3 months.

[Deleted]

Jan 8, 2016 10:07:31 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Jan 8, 2016 9:56:42 GMT -5 @jimbobcooter said:

P is not only getting up every two hours these nights, he is now also screaming for half an hour when he wakes up at 2. I just can't....

This is us too. I never imagined I would have a 7 month old up every 2 hrs. DS was pretty much sleeping through from 3 months.

DS1 was an amazing sleeper and assumed I had just done everything right with him.  I've tried to follow the same things with P to get him there and nope.  Nothing.  I just dread the end of the day and bedtime at this point, knowing I'm not going to get any good sleep. 

[pbubblegum]

I need nap help. My kid sleeps through the night and has always been a great sleeper. He's not on a nap schedule, we just put him down when he's rubbing his eyes or looks tired. Lately, he cries in his crib and can't fall asleep. If he does manage to fall asleep he wakes up after 10-20 minutes. Help!

[holliberry28]

I'm sorry @poppyc8 that LO is still having a hard time sleeping through the night.

Can someone please give me advice on how to get my lil monster to sleep past 4:30 am?! I even fed him today thinking maybe he is hungry (even though we night weaned him over a month ago) and he still didn't fall back asleep. No changing, no pacifier, no rocking would buy me an extra hour or two.

I like to participate in the drinking threads but can't if I have to go to bed at 8 pm to keep up with this guy.

pbubblegum , M never napped well. I'd be interested in nap advice, too.

[periwinkledaydreams]

Jan 8, 2016 10:07:31 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Jan 8, 2016 9:56:42 GMT -5 @jimbobcooter said:

P is not only getting up every two hours these nights, he is now also screaming for half an hour when he wakes up at 2. I just can't....

This is us too. I never imagined I would have a 7 month old up every 2 hrs. DS was pretty much sleeping through from 3 months.

This is us 3. If we get 2 hour intervals but its sometimes as little as 45 minutes between wake-ups. Dying.

[jillywilly]

If there's one thing I learned as a lurker - it's to never talk about good baby sleep That being said, we're working on getting DS down to only one night feeding (formula fed now), from about 2-3 bottles overnight. We're going through ups and downs, but have been trying to stick with our current plan for the last week and a half now, and I think we're taking baby steps to get there. Last night we were up twice, but only fed once, so... win?

[mnp48]

Omg, I'm not alone! We don't have a game plan yet bc we are traveling for the next two weeks. But fx'd for you, ladies, and for us when we try to sleep train DS!

[bookninja]

Moving from rnp to crib sucks.
That is all.

[wegrowsheep]

T slept from 2:30 - 6:30 last night. I felt like a new person after 4 hrs of sleep. Which is sad.

[carolyngrace]

I'm really scared to say anything. So all I'll say is that a combination of night weaning and sleep training is working over here... And I'm so sympathetic to those getting up multiple times a night! It's so hard!!

Also re:naps. I have a friend nap training her 9 month old. She does an hour in the crib twice/day. Sometimes her lo wakes up earlier and cries but she leaves her for the hour. She said half the time she falls back asleep.

[dogmama22]

I may have mentioned it, but we're doing Rebecca Michi's gentle sleep training challenge and having a lot of success. Hopefully it sticks, because he was an awful sleeper for a while.
For naps, she recommends a 2-3-4 schedule for this age group with an optional cat nap within the 4 hour chunk. Total napping hours should be about 3 hours (we were nowhere close). She recommends a nap routine that's a super short version of bed time (ex. Close the blinds, book or song). If your baby is more spirited/ high needs, start with a 5 minute quiet, slow walk around the house before heading to their room.
For nighttime, decide on a reasonable wake up time - not much later than 7/7:30. Lights stay off and baby stays in the room until close to that time. No screens on when you go in to comfort or feed.

[jillywilly]

Never feel confident you should have a good night. DS ate great during the day and had tons of excitement. Then didn't take his bedtime bottle at all, so I caved and fed him 8 oz at 10:30 because he sounded like he was starving (we've been trying to get him to make it until at least 12/1 for the first stretch). The good news is there was only one more actual wake up for a feeding, but we heard him fussing/crying for a minute periodically over the monitor all night, just nothing we had to get up for. Not sure what that was about... I'm thinking teething or maybe he's getting ready to learn something new?

[ashbash]

holliberry28 I have no idea if these are options for you but if DS wakes around that time he either gets put in the rock and play or in bed with me

It not perfect but since he isnt sleeping thru the night i cannot function with a 5 am wake up so its what we are doing

[mbjune13]

Jan 8, 2016 13:55:05 GMT -5 budders said:

After months of several wakeups per night, we are now struggling with evening wakefulness. V doesn't go down until between 9:30-11:00 pm, even though he's napping per usual and nothing in his routine has changed. He is very chatty and moving during that time, so I do think the culprit might be the desire to practices new skills, but I'm so over it. He is attached to me for about 6 hours from the moment I get home from work, so I'm getting no time to myself and getting to bed several hours later than I want to, and then working all day and repeating. I can't wait till this phase passes.

This has been us the last couple months. B refuses to go down earlier than 10. After being at home all day with her I would really like some time to unwind but she will not go to DH from about 8-10. She still wakes up a few times during the night too. I am at 7 months of no good sleep, I don't know what to do.

[Deleted]

Jan 9, 2016 7:10:41 GMT -5 dogmama22 said:

I may have mentioned it, but we're doing Rebecca Michi's gentle sleep training challenge and having a lot of success. Hopefully it sticks, because he was an awful sleeper for a while.
For naps, she recommends a 2-3-4 schedule for this age group with an optional cat nap within the 4 hour chunk. Total napping hours should be about 3 hours (we were nowhere close). She recommends a nap routine that's a super short version of bed time (ex. Close the blinds, book or song). If your baby is more spirited/ high needs, start with a 5 minute quiet, slow walk around the house before heading to their room.
For nighttime, decide on a reasonable wake up time - not much later than 7/7:30. Lights stay off and baby stays in the room until close to that time. No screens on when you go in to comfort or feed.

Being at home with blinds closed etc is just not an option for us. I'm a SAHM who also watches our loud 2 yr old and he needs to get out of the house. So she is a lot of times along for activities and unfortunately her naps are cut short sometimes by his noise level.

Any suggestions for moms with more then one on how to handle daytime nap schedule and a toddler at same time?

[silv3rlining]

Jan 8, 2016 10:44:34 GMT -5 pbubblegum said:

I need nap help. My kid sleeps through the night and has always been a great sleeper. He's not on a nap schedule, we just put him down when he's rubbing his eyes or looks tired. Lately, he cries in his crib and can't fall asleep. If he does manage to fall asleep he wakes up after 10-20 minutes. Help!

DS was never a good napper. We literally had to pin him down and nap with him. But he was a great night sleeper. (He would take car naps though so lots of nap jail). IMO I'd rather have a great night sleeper than a great napper. Once we moved him to his toddler bed at 19.5 months he became a rock star napper.

[pbubblegum]

Jan 9, 2016 9:30:32 GMT -5 silv3rlining said:

Jan 8, 2016 10:44:34 GMT -5 pbubblegum said:

I need nap help. My kid sleeps through the night and has always been a great sleeper. He's not on a nap schedule, we just put him down when he's rubbing his eyes or looks tired. Lately, he cries in his crib and can't fall asleep. If he does manage to fall asleep he wakes up after 10-20 minutes. Help!

DS was never a good napper. We literally had to pin him down and nap with him. But he was a great night sleeper. (He would take car naps though so lots of nap jail). IMO I'd rather have a great night sleeper than a great napper. Once we moved him to his toddl bed at 19.5 months he became a rock star napper.

True! Great sleep is better than great napper. I think I might be putting him down when he's too tired to fall asleep on his own. Yesterday I put him down before he rubbed his eyes and it worked. He's also teething which might be the cause.

[silv3rlining]

Jan 9, 2016 9:16:25 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Jan 9, 2016 7:10:41 GMT -5 dogmama22 said:

I may have mentioned it, but we're doing Rebecca Michi's gentle sleep training challenge and having a lot of success. Hopefully it sticks, because he was an awful sleeper for a while.
For naps, she recommends a 2-3-4 schedule for this age group with an optional cat nap within the 4 hour chunk. Total napping hours should be about 3 hours (we were nowhere close). She recommends a nap routine that's a super short version of bed time (ex. Close the blinds, book or song). If your baby is more spirited/ high needs, start with a 5 minute quiet, slow walk around the house before heading to their room.
For nighttime, decide on a reasonable wake up time - not much later than 7/7:30. Lights stay off and baby stays in the room until close to that time. No screens on when you go in to comfort or feed.

Being at home with blinds closed etc is just not an option for us. I'm a SAHM who also watches our loud 2 yr old and he needs to get out of the house. So she is a lot of times along for activities and unfortunately her naps are cut short sometimes by his noise level.

Any suggestions for moms with more then one on how to handle daytime nap schedule and a toddler at same time?

For morning nap I usually let DS watch something on TV while I get LO ready and down for a nap. Their afternoon naps somewhat overlap. I am not super strict on naps for DS so sometimes we're out and about in the afternoon. Most of the places we go are 30mins-hour away so I also try to coordinate driving with nap times..

[Deleted]

Jan 9, 2016 9:30:32 GMT -5 silv3rlining said:

Jan 8, 2016 10:44:34 GMT -5 pbubblegum said:

I need nap help. My kid sleeps through the night and has always been a great sleeper. He's not on a nap schedule, we just put him down when he's rubbing his eyes or looks tired. Lately, he cries in his crib and can't fall asleep. If he does manage to fall asleep he wakes up after 10-20 minutes. Help!

DS was never a good napper. We literally had to pin him down and nap with him. But he was a great night sleeper. (He would take car naps though so lots of nap jail). IMO I'd rather have a great night sleeper than a great napper. Once we moved him to his toddler bed at 19.5 months he became a rock star napper.

This is us. DS so hard to get to sleep but once asleep he sleeps like a rock. He could sleep through a train coming through our living room.

Wait edited because DS is a great napper and night sleeper just hard to initial get down but once down he rarely woke up.

[gilder40]

budders once again I'm right there with you and can commiserate. Teaching on only 5-6 hours of sleep is rough. I'm struggling.

[pbubblegum]

Jan 9, 2016 9:39:26 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

Jan 8, 2016 10:44:34 GMT -5 pbubblegum said:

I need nap help. My kid sleeps through the night and has always been a great sleeper. He's not on a nap schedule, we just put him down when he's rubbing his eyes or looks tired. Lately, he cries in his crib and can't fall asleep. If he does manage to fall asleep he wakes up after 10-20 minutes. Help!

It might be that he just isn't tired yet when you put him down. We had this issue with M and I pushed naps back a little (trying to follow the 2,3,4 hour method) and she went down much easier and for longer periods of time.

Tell me more. What's 2,3,4?

[pbubblegum]

Thanks @jemomma

[dogmama22]

Jan 9, 2016 9:16:25 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Jan 9, 2016 7:10:41 GMT -5 dogmama22 said:

I may have mentioned it, but we're doing Rebecca Michi's gentle sleep training challenge and having a lot of success. Hopefully it sticks, because he was an awful sleeper for a while.
For naps, she recommends a 2-3-4 schedule for this age group with an optional cat nap within the 4 hour chunk. Total napping hours should be about 3 hours (we were nowhere close). She recommends a nap routine that's a super short version of bed time (ex. Close the blinds, book or song). If your baby is more spirited/ high needs, start with a 5 minute quiet, slow walk around the house before heading to their room.
For nighttime, decide on a reasonable wake up time - not much later than 7/7:30. Lights stay off and baby stays in the room until close to that time. No screens on when you go in to comfort or feed.

Being at home with blinds closed etc is just not an option for us. I'm a SAHM who also watches our loud 2 yr old and he needs to get out of the house. So she is a lot of times along for activities and unfortunately her naps are cut short sometimes by his noise level.

Any suggestions for moms with more then one on how to handle daytime nap schedule and a toddler at same time?

Her methods are super flexible, so like @jemomma suggestion - a nap in the carrier or stroller is totally fine while out and about. This only applies to times when you are home and putting her down for a nap in the crib. She also talks about helping them through sleep transitions. She recommends sitting in their room just for one nap to see the time when they transition through a sleep phase so you know when you need to go in for a few days to teach her how to transition. I'm not sure how possible that is with a toddler (maybe if you have some good help from DH on a weekend), but maybe you could watch on the monitor and get to the room quickly when she's starting to transition. You can pat, jiggle, rock, whatever you need to do to get her through that transition until she's working towards that on her own. It seems like at DC, Z only wakes up to others crying if he's in a transition phase. Otherwise he sleeps through the noise. I hope that helped answer your question. We're still struggling with a reasonable bedtime routine (right now it takes about 2 hours) so I can try to post more about actually getting them down to begin with once we learn about that.

[Deleted]

Thanks dogmama22 @jemomma
Right now I think my biggest issue is the car ride to the activities for DS.
Usually his playgroups are from the 9-1130. So LO will fall asleep in a short car ride to the activity and then I try to transfer her to the carrier or stroller and she wakes up. Then she is excited to hear all the kids playing and talking etc. so she has a crappy first nap. Then she is ready to nap towards the end of his playgroup so she will fall asleep then wake back up when I put her back in car to drive home.

Ideally I think I need to get her to take a good nap before his playgroup but it's hard to force a nap

[Deleted]

So last night she slept better. It sounds crazy but I put her in a fleece pj footie, fleece sleep sack and on top of that one of her cotton sweaters and she slept the best she has in a long time. So I guess she was cold before..

The only issue we had was she pooped at 430 then pooped again at 530. So I changed her diaper twice. She was wide awake and once I got her back down at 6. DS then heard me awake and woke her up again. Ahhhhhhh