O,U

[Flick]

Jan 14, 2016 12:47:21 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Jan 14, 2016 12:35:38 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Michael Jackson? I'm in the he was a sick child molester camp on that one. Did not shed a tear. One of H friends went to school with the boy he molested and they def settled with that poor boy and paid him off.

Oooo maybe another O, U? I don't believe he did it.

Wut?

[musicfrk2002]

I guess my O,U for this week is that I attended both my 5 and 10 year class reunions. And didnt xompletely hate then. A lot of people from my class either don't have or don't use their facebook, so I don't really see what anyone is up to.

[veggiemo]

Jan 14, 2016 13:11:44 GMT -5 Flick said:

Jan 14, 2016 12:47:21 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Oooo maybe another O, U? I don't believe he did it.

Wut?

I mean yeah, he was a total weirdo and there were probably some really odd things going on around there but as far as molesting little boys? I doubt it. Full disclosure, I work in a field that defends people charged with those types of crimes, so it's my job to be skeptical. I realize that is not the norm, hence O, U.

[mbjune13]

Hated the anxiety while being pregnant, but I miss the movement.
Don't care one way or the other about celeb deaths
Addicted to coffee, I cannot function without it.

I also understand the feels around all the new intros, me being one of them. I'm not out to make anyone uncomfortable or scared of sharing. I just really needed a place with real life answers and you ladies helped me more than you will know. (You could always reverse image search one of my pics if you want to know if I'm real) I was made to feel welcome and I hope in time I won't be considered just one of the lurkers.

[carolyngrace]

I think I've said this before in response to the catfish freak-outs on this board. I do not understand the paranoia about lurkers/catfishes/etc. At all. You can see my picture, I live in Pittsburgh, I've talked about working as a therapist in a school, I have 3 sisters, Oscar is my only child, I was born in Minnesota. So what? What is someone going to do with that information?

[carolyngrace]

Jan 14, 2016 13:33:16 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Jan 14, 2016 13:11:44 GMT -5 Flick said:

Wut?

I mean yeah, he was a total weirdo and there were probably some really odd things going on around there but as far as molesting little boys? I doubt it. Full disclosure, I work in a field that defends people charged with those types of crimes, so it's my job to be skeptical. I realize that is not the norm, hence O, U.

That's a good one. I tend to believe where there's smoke, there's fire. 

[mrsdee1982]

I'm not creeped out by any of you new lovely ladies! Ya'll have done nothing to warrant my reaction. It's just my inherent "Stranger Danger" response. Hence why I stated my UO was even Unpopular with me! And, I am certain that within a few days I will forget ya'll were ever lurkers and will feel like you've been here (which, in all fairness, you were) since the great migration.

[carolyngrace]

Jan 14, 2016 13:56:16 GMT -5 budders said:

Jan 14, 2016 13:49:29 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

I think I've said this before in response to the catfish freak-outs on this board. I do not understand the paranoia about lurkers/catfishes/etc. At all. You can see my picture, I live in Pittsburgh, I've talked about working as a therapist in a school, I have 3 sisters, Oscar is my only child, I was born in Minnesota. So what? What is someone going to do with that information?

There have been instances on these boards (particularly when we were on TD) of users tracking people's real information down and using it to attempt to gain money or use their identity. This happened in particular with a group who decided to go to FB as a BMB offshoot. Another started a sunshine fund for a mother in need (or lied to get her own, I can't remember which) and stole/used the money under false pretenses. People have also stolen pictures of other people's children and used them for their own gain.

There are real threats, and Internet security is a thing. That being said, these instances aren't so widespread that it warrants paranoia and assuming every new person who joins is up to no good.

I guess I've always been a "It won't happen to me" kind of person. But also, none of those things freak me out to a high degree. Would it suck? Yes. Could it potentially take some money to sort out? Yes. But the chances of it actually happening are so low, and it's not something that would affect my family's health and wellbeing directly, so... not a big worry.

[belle0720]

Jan 14, 2016 12:14:18 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Jan 14, 2016 11:45:04 GMT -5 belle0720 said:

I miss being pregnant. Not the fatness or the first trimester morning sickness, but I loved the kicks, the ultrasounds, and the whole anticipation of baby being on the way, starting to feel contractions, and then finally meeting her. I would honestly being TTC again if I felt comfortable with my body, but I still have a few pounds to go and I want to get in shape again before TTC. I also want to do a lot of saving so that I feel comfortable taking 6 months off again and I want to cherish this time alone with Baby G. So yeah, I won't succumb to my baby fever!

Funny you say the fatness part because being pregnant was the time I felt the LEAST fat. When you're pregnant you don't have a suck in and there is a good reason your belly is sticking out!

Oh I LOVED my belly, it was my fat face, swollen feet, legs, and ankles that I hated LOL! I am unfortunately not one of those people who stays trim everywhere but their belly!

[carolyngrace]

Jan 14, 2016 14:03:22 GMT -5 budders said:

Jan 14, 2016 13:59:58 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

I guess I've always been a "It won't happen to me" kind of person. But also, none of those things freak me out to a high degree. Would it suck? Yes. Could it potentially take some money to sort out? Yes. But the chances of it actually happening are so low, and it's not something that would affect my family's health and wellbeing directly, so... not a big worry.

Identity theft would absolutely impact your family in a big way. If someone is successful, it can ruin your credit and cost you substantial amounts of money, time and energy to rectify. I agree that the odds are low, but not low enough to not take some precaution, at least for me. Does it keep me up at night? No. Do I side eye every new poster? No. But it does keep me from giving key information that could solidly identify me to others.

I get that and totally understand people protecting their privacy more than I do!

[veggiemo]

Jan 14, 2016 13:51:05 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

Jan 14, 2016 13:33:16 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

I mean yeah, he was a total weirdo and there were probably some really odd things going on around there but as far as molesting little boys? I doubt it. Full disclosure, I work in a field that defends people charged with those types of crimes, so it's my job to be skeptical. I realize that is not the norm, hence O, U.

That's a good one. I tend to believe where there's smoke, there's fire. 

I get you. But my everyday job deals with the complete opposite side of this. Criminal defense is all about proving that just because there is smoke doesn't mean there is fire, and not just in sexual conduct cases. So that's where my (unpopular) mindset comes from.

[mrsdee1982]

veggiemo, what is your stance on Bill Cosby, if you don't mind sharing?

[carolyngrace]

Jan 14, 2016 14:07:46 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Jan 14, 2016 13:51:05 GMT -5 carolyngrace said:

That's a good one. I tend to believe where there's smoke, there's fire. 

I get you. But my everyday job deals with the complete opposite side of this. Criminal defense is all about proving that just because there is smoke doesn't mean there is fire, and not just in sexual conduct cases. So that's where my (unpopular) mindset comes from.

What's your opinion on Steven Avery?

[veggiemo]

@mrsdes1982. Guilty.

[veggiemo]

carolyngrace haven't finished yet. I'll get back to you on that one.

[mrsdee1982]

Jan 14, 2016 14:11:51 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

@mrsdes1982. Guilty.

Oh…ok, now I am legit curious. What would make you think Bill Cosby is guilty, and Michael Jackson was not?  

[veggiemo]

Jan 14, 2016 14:17:32 GMT -5 mrsdee1982 said:

Jan 14, 2016 14:11:51 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

@mrsdes1982. Guilty.

Oh…ok, now I am legit curious. What would make you think Bill Cosby is guilty, and Michael Jackson was not?  

What do you mean? They are two totally different cases. We are talking about accusations from dozens and dozens of women, versus the accusations from 3 little boys and their weirdo parents. I assessed the facts and evidence available and formed an opinion. I don't always think people who are accused of sexual misconduct are innocent, but I do second guess more than the average person, because of my job.

[Widget123]

Jan 14, 2016 14:00:23 GMT -5 budders said:

Jan 14, 2016 13:55:53 GMT -5 @bubbs119 said:

I do realize how the internet works. However, I am allowed to be sketched out by the general influx of lurkers into a community that has been established for over a year. FWIW they seem to be pretty legit and its not like I'm telling them to GTFO. 

I get what you are saying and would never tell you how to feel. I lurked on TTGP on TD for a year before I joined in. I was intimidated and had never participated in a message board before and was afraid of being rejected somehow. I eventually got over it and jumped in and am glad that I did.

These people didn't all of a sudden come out of the woodwork. They have been lurking for a while and WE called on them to intro. That's why they're joining now, because we asked them to. They probably would have kept on lurking if we hadn't invited them in.

I looked at the profile of every single one of the people that intro'd recently and a significant portion of them (I want to guess close to 50%, but maybe not that high) created their account in January 2015, one year ago. Only a few created their account within a few hours of intro'ing.

ETA: Didn't do this just now.  Did it as they intro'd.

[prettymama36]

I totally understand all the feelings over the lurkers that have recently come out. I felt the same way as mbjune13 mentioned, that the window to participate had passed and it would be weirder to join in now. That being said, I really wish I would've joined in earlier, and not been shy. I hope in time it will feel like I'm a solid part of the group

I love and am completely addicted to coffee. My baby doesn't sleep and coffee saves my life.
Love pedicures and don't do manicures
Meh to celebrity deaths
Do not miss pregnancy. I feel like I forgot how hard it really was being pregnant after my second daughter (6 year span), even an "easy" pregnancy is hard! I do miss the kicks and wiggles though.

[baytosa2013]

I effing HATED being pregnant, except the movement and anticipation. It was like her and I had a little secret because I was the only one that could feel all these things.

Yes to pedicures no to manicures

I don't get mushy on social media about dead celebrities. Like others I get way more blubbery about a local tragedy...maybe because I can relate more.

I'm cool with the new people but i also try to watch what I post

I'm pretty excited for the new faces on our FB though

UO: I think all these random school and Gov't holidays are stupid. Not the part where we are recognizing the accomplishments of those being celebrated but does the bank, school, local DMV really need ANOTHER day off?

[tiffbot]

Celebrity deaths: There's a few I think 'aw that's too bad!' But it doesn't like, bring me down or anything. I do not follow celebrity gossip whatsoever so I don't generally know anything more than work they've put out, so it's more just remembering that.

Mini vans: my life is complete with one! SO glad we invested in it!

Pregnancy: I liked being pregnant. And DD's was about as by the book as it gets with a great labor and delivery. But I never thought I'd feel so content with two. I always wanted three. I try not to think about it because I don't think its something I need to rush into deciding either.

New people: Hiii!

I can't think of my own OU, of course. I'll try.

[mrsdee1982]

Jan 14, 2016 14:29:55 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Jan 14, 2016 14:17:32 GMT -5 mrsdee1982 said:

Oh…ok, now I am legit curious. What would make you think Bill Cosby is guilty, and Michael Jackson was not?  

What do you mean? They are two totally different cases. We are talking about accusations from dozens and dozens of women, versus the accusations from 3 little boys and their weirdo parents. I assessed the facts and evidence available and formed an opinion. I don't always think people who are accused of sexual misconduct are innocent, but I do second guess more than the average person, because of my job.

I was just curious, because in my mind, both have about the same amount of smoke and lack of physical proof.  For the record, I think both are guilty as hell.  However, I can totally see some validity in the argument made that these people are just coming out of the woodwork for financial payoffs (not that this is your argument.  Just one presented).  I just don't think that is the case with all of the accusers in these cases.  Some?  Possibly.  But not all.  I think Michael Jackson did horrible things to at least one of those boys and Bill Cosby did awful things to at least one (probably more) of these women.  

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Jan 14, 2016 12:47:21 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Jan 14, 2016 12:35:38 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Michael Jackson? I'm in the he was a sick child molester camp on that one. Did not shed a tear. One of H friends went to school with the boy he molested and they def settled with that poor boy and paid him off.

Oooo maybe another O, U? I don't believe he did it.

Did 'it'? It was not just one ' it' Mj abused multiple young boys and many of them were able to name birth marks on his body that only someone who had seen him completely naked would know. So you think it's ok for a grown man to have sleep over parties with young boys?

[Widget123]

Jan 14, 2016 14:36:15 GMT -5 baytosa2013 said:

UO: I think all these random school and Gov't holidays are stupid. Not the part where we are recognizing the accomplishments of those being celebrated but does the bank, school, local DMV really need ANOTHER day off?

 

[veggiemo]

Jan 14, 2016 14:39:05 GMT -5 mrsdee1982 said:

Jan 14, 2016 14:29:55 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

What do you mean? They are two totally different cases. We are talking about accusations from dozens and dozens of women, versus the accusations from 3 little boys and their weirdo parents. I assessed the facts and evidence available and formed an opinion. I don't always think people who are accused of sexual misconduct are innocent, but I do second guess more than the average person, because of my job.

I was just curious, because in my mind, both have about the same amount of smoke and lack of physical proof.  For the record, I think both are guilty as hell.  However, I can totally see some validity in the argument made that these people are just coming out of the woodwork for financial payoffs (not that this is your argument.  Just one presented).  I just don't think that is the case with all of the accusers in these cases.  Some?  Possibly.  But not all.  I think Michael Jackson did horrible things to at least one of those boys and Bill Cosby did awful things to at least one (probably more) of these women.  

Understood. Honestly, it's been a long time since the MJ cases were in the media but from what I can remember, I do not see these two as being comparable. In MJ's case you've got a weird guy, who obviously has issues with maturity, and who somehow finds himself relating to kids more than he does adults. Then you've got even WEIRDER parents, sending their kids to sleepovers to his house and then crying molestation afterwards. It doesn't sit well with me.

[veggiemo]

Jan 14, 2016 14:55:32 GMT -5 @poppyc8 said:

Jan 14, 2016 12:47:21 GMT -5 veggiemo said:

Oooo maybe another O, U? I don't believe he did it.

Did 'it'? It was not just one ' it' Mj abused multiple young boys and many of them were able to name birth marks on his body that only someone who had seen him completely naked would know. So you think it's ok for a grown man to have sleep over parties with young boys?

Whoa. No, I do not think sleepovers with adult men and young boys are appropriate. But, based on the facts of the case that were presented at the time (which I admit, it was a long time ago and I don't remember everything), I did not believe he was guilty. There were enough inconsistencies in the statements and evidence to not convict him in a court of law (which does not mean he's innocent, I get that. ie OJ Simpson) but that definitely is something. It wasn't cut and dry as you are describing.

[mrsdee1982]

Jan 14, 2016 14:36:15 GMT -5 baytosa2013 said:

UO: I think all these random school and Gov't holidays are stupid. Not the part where we are recognizing the accomplishments of those being celebrated but does the bank, school, local DMV really need ANOTHER day off?

As someone who gets bank holidays off, the answer is yes.  Yes, yes we do.  I will take every goddamn paid day off you want to throw in my direction.  

[veggiemo]

And come on @poppyc8, let's keep this a civil discussion. No need to get hostile or put words in my mouth.

[purple]

I think it's completely reasonable for all you long term posters to be cautious about us newbies. I almost certainly would be in your position. I think it was mbjune13 who said that she thought the window to join had passed. I thought that, too, and I regretted it, because there were conversations I really wanted to join in with, like the board games discussion a few weeks ago. But I've been convinced for months that it would be deeply creepy for me to join in at this stage. I'm almost always on my phone and I had no idea that the number of lurkers could be seen. Then people started calling us out. I think @jemomma started it, and Kristykristyleelee issued a challenge to all lurkers, so here I am.

I wish I had joined in a year ago. I think you wonderful ladies would have been very supportive during my sometimes scary pregnancy. Better late than never!

As for the other things mentioned: I rarely get sad about celebrity deaths. On the other hand, if a writer I admire dies, I often am upset.

I had a manicure and pedicure for my wedding. I quite enjoyed them but the polish on my fingernails didn't even last till I got out of the salon.

I am allergic to coffee and the smell makes me feel sick. You can't get away from the smell of coffee! H has banned it from our house and I sometimes feel guilty not to be able to offer it to guests. His argument is that I shouldn't have to feel sick in my own home.

[mrsdee1982]

Jan 14, 2016 16:28:09 GMT -5 @hazeldublin said:

I don't think the moon landing happened.

Whaaaa???

Seriously?