**TWW 1/25-2/1**

[wannabmama]

Let's go ladies. This is the place you can talk about all the craziness that comes with the dreaded two week wait. Phantom symptoms, implantation dips and possible spotting, what you are doing to make the time fly by, and much much more. Post as often or as little as you want. We are here for you. Chart stalks available upon request or if there is a link, we may look just to pass the time or out of curiosity. Gifs are also welcome!

GTKY: (Other than TTC)...Are you a patient or impatient person?

[jwinct]

I'm still here, but I'm pretty sure AF will be arriving in the next couple of days. I have so many missing temps that I'm not exactly sure when I Oed, so there is a chance that I Oed later than I thought. BFN so far, so we'll see.

I can be both patient and impatient - it really depends on the situation. That's a cop-out answer, isn't it? LOL

[bazinga]

Hoping you O'd later than you think jwinct...

I'm 2-3DPO. FF thinks 3 based on temps but they were a bit bouncy and i think it got fooled. I think 2 based on O pains and CM. I don't think it really matters as we managed to hit EOD despite a camping trip this past weekend. Just a waiting game now...

QOTW: I'm patient... until I'm not!

[sleepymonkey]

I have my FX for you ladies in the TWW!

[wannabmama]

I go here too...my chart is only clear that I have O'ed, but when could be anytime between Thursday and Sunday. I tried OPKs but never got positive (Wondfos) they were getting darker until Sat morning (darkest was Friday night I think), but FF has me Oing on Thursday if I don't put any positive OPKs in. Thurs seems too early and I have a bad temp on Sat (woke up early but didn't temp, tried to go back to sleep but never really did) so that's way too much information to say I'm somewhere between 2 and 5 DPO. I'm leaning toward 2 or 3. We had ok timing either way...for once!
QOTW: I'm pretty patient with most things. Maybe to a fault actually.

[jwinct]

wannabmama - care to share a link to your chart? I think OPKs sound so complicated and frustrating. Are they really worth the hassle?


BFN again today, but my temp is still high. It's usually high until 10/11DPO, then crashes and AF arrives. So, I'm fully expecting a crash tomorrow. I really hate not knowing exactly when I Oed.

[wannabmama]

jwinct here's a link:
fertilityfriend.com/home/522fa4

Long explanation below:
If I discard Sat's temp and put no opk info in, it says it can't detect O (Sat I got up at 4:30 but didn't temp then slept restlessly and had some wine Friday night, so I'm skeptical of the temp). Friday night and Sat am were dark OPKs but not "positive" and then they got lighter (Friday am light, darker that night, same or slightly darker sat morning, lighter Sat night). If put in either as positive and leave the temp, FF says I O'ed on Sunday (which wouldn't surprise me), if I leave negative and keep Sat temp, it says I O'ed Thursday (which seems crazy) and if I discard Sat temp, can't detect O.
In the past I did Wondfos and then confirmed with clear blue easy and that's the only time I actually caught the surge. I didn't have any CBEs at home and since I was testing 2x day and they were getting darker I thought I'd be ok. And of course the "key" temp is the one that got screwed up!
I assume I O'ed between Thursday and Sunday and I guess at the end of the day it doesn't matter...but it's still annoying!

[wannabmama]

jwinct sorry for the bfn! I can appreciate the annoyance of not being able to pinpoint O!
I know some people love OPKs, I just don't seem to have good luck catching the surge!

[beachdreamer]

**lurker**

I stick to the CB "smiley" OPKs. I think trying to figure out when the line is light, darker, etc would just stress me out. Last cycle I had issues with FF confirming O date as well. I had to take out some negative OPKs before it would give me a date. I also had issues because I forgot to temp after AF until day 7 or 8 so it wanted more temps before it would detect a shift. I just thought it was weird taking out a few negatives made a difference.

[wannabmama]

beachdreamer that's interesting about taking out negatives... I love FF but sometimes it makes me scratch my head!

[jwinct]

wannabmama - I think FF is correct, based on your temps. I would get rid of all the negative OPKs from your chart. Good luck!

[wannabmama]

Jan 27, 2016 14:47:20 GMT -5 jwinct said:

wannabmama - I think FF is correct, based on your temps. I would get rid of all the negative OPKs from your chart. Good luck!

So...I took out all the opk data and with Sat temp in, it says I O'ed on CD15 (moved one day later) and if I discard, it goes to CD17. I had either just random cramps or O pain on Sunday, so part of me believes that (and sort of makes sense if I had pretty dark Sat. OPK line Sat. am...but who knows!

[hooligans4]

wannabmama if you think you had positive opk on Saturday then that would put O Sunday most likely. You ovulate 12-36 hours after your surge.
We all need doctorate degrees to be able to figure out ff and opk's.
Maybe I will open a ttc college.

[wannabmama]

Jan 27, 2016 15:29:50 GMT -5 hooligans4 said:

wannabmama if you think you had positive opk on Saturday then that would put O Sunday most likely. You ovulate 12-36 hours after your surge.
We all need doctorate degrees to be able to figure out ff and opk's.
Maybe I will open a ttc college.

Yeah that was my thinking...but it wasn't really positive (just pretty dark). I've only caught the surge once in the 8-10 times I've tried...so maybe I just don't have strong LH surge or something; it's not like it matters since natural baby making doesn't seem like it will work for us anyway. (Debbie downer)

It really is amazing how much of this is guesswork even with all the science we have and tests and knowledge...there are still mysteries!

And I'd totally enroll in your TTC college

[jwinct]

My temp took its usual end-of-cycle nose-dive this morning, so AF will be arriving tomorrow. Poop.

[wannabmama]

Boo jwinct

[wannabmama]

Welcome ladystrat I'm in a similar boat...we did what we could but there's no reason to think it worked, ha!

[hooligans4]

I'm here with you lovely ladies but I'm not driving the train, I'm just a passenger this time. I'm feeling pretty defeated lately so I'm just going to wait on AF this month.
I'm cycle day 20, of a usual 23-24 day cycle. This is my 49th cycle Of active trying and 10 year not using birth control. Sometimes I'm hopeful that eventually it will work but this month is not one of them.

We had sex twice before I think I o'd but I'm not temping so I can't be certain I actually did o. I have no symptoms either pointing to AF or BFP.
My cervix is low but cm is thick so I have no clue. I should get period Monday. Maybe I will test Sunday but not sure I'm up for seeing a bfn.
Sorry I'm a Debbie downer this month. It just gets to me sometimes.

It does make me happy to see others here get their BFP so I'm crossing my fingers for you all.

[wannabmama]

hooligans4 sorry you're feeling down, this process is so terrible as it drags on and I feel it, too, even though we haven't been at it long. This month we had as good timing as ever, but I just feel like why would it finally work now? So am already expecting it to be a bust. I used to be so excited in the TWW and now it's just agony.
I hope you get a great surprise! In the meantime, sending hugs.

[jwinct]

Hugs, ladies!

I'm still here, just waiting on AF. I didn't temp today because I had a couple of beers last night and I would have had to discard it anyway. If I don't get AF by the time I get home, I'm going to POAS just because I plan to drink ALL THE WINE tonight and I don't want to sit there wondering where AF is while I'm chugging from the box.