So I guess I am doing this! (Into, losses mentioned.)

[peaseblossom55]

Hi and welcome. So sorry about your losses. Have you also considered getting second opinions, if you feel frustrated by your RE?

Feel free to join us on the posts done every Tuesday for those TTCAL.

[JustJudy]

Welcome! This group is the best for talking about the struggles. They've been my saving grace for about a year now.

Sorry if you addressed this and I missed it, did your husband do a sperm analysis?

Unexplained IF is so frustrating!!!

[wannabmama]

Hello and welcome! I'm lefty too...and mid (ok, I'm really late) 30s, and big wine enthusiast! (Not Canadian though )

I'm sorry about your losses and agree it can be frustrating to hear conflicting things. Did they mention the possibility of "bad eggs" based on blood work or anything before? My RE gave us similar poor chances to get KU on our own, so I know how disheartening that is to hear. I went through two IUIs while I came around to the idea of IVF. Going through the "steps" was important for both MH and I to get comfortable with IVF. I hope you get your sticky bean with this IUI though, and in the meantime welcome you to join in!

[BabyStandish]

Welcome!

[bex15]

Hello and welcome!

[diamondsndaisies]

Welcome! I hope you find the support you are looking for here!

[mikaela20]

Hi and welcome! I'm sorry about your losses.

Happy to see another Canadian on the board!

[ladytiffany24]

Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear about your losses. You will find a super supportive community here!

[kayladawn91]

Welcome. I'm so sorry for your losses.

[sdfonz619]

Welcome and GL! I am sorry for your losses.

[ohinvrtedworld]

Hi there! I'm so sorry for your losses. I'm glad you are joining us, these ladies are wonderful and knowledgable! We have TTC after loss & infertility check ins if you are interested!

[joy]

Well, "bad eggs" is a bad explanation for what you truly have - unexplained infertility. I can see how they originally believed that the septum might fix the problem, but the truth is that infertility doesn't manifest until you've tried for a period of time.

Has your husband had a semen analysis? Have you had an HSG to look at your tubes? There's a range of possibilities here beyond what your blood tests are telling you.

I will say that my bloodwork came back perfect, HSG didn't show blocked tubes, my hypothyroidism was in check, my cycles were normal, and I didn't get pregnant for 2.5 years. No reason can be given for what the problem truly was because whatever it was can't be measured by a test. All they can do is boost egg number and quality (with medications), boost sperm numbers (through IUI), and ultimately boost fertilization chances (IVF). The hope is that as you move through these interventions, you learn more about your particular set of problems and can address them.

[bazinga]

Hello and welcome. I'm sorry about your losses. Good luck and I hope you find the support you need here as you move forward.

[pinkcat]

I'm so sorry to hear about your losses. Other posters have given better advice than I can, I just want to say welcome!!

[joy]

Apr 12, 2016 14:28:02 GMT -5 ozgal said:

Apr 12, 2016 13:55:41 GMT -5 joy said:

Well, "bad eggs" is a bad explanation for what you truly have - unexplained infertility. I can see how they originally believed that the septum might fix the problem, but the truth is that infertility doesn't manifest until you've tried for a period of time.

Has your husband had a semen analysis? Have you had an HSG to look at your tubes? There's a range of possibilities here beyond what your blood tests are telling you.

I will say that my bloodwork came back perfect, HSG didn't show blocked tubes, my hypothyroidism was in check, my cycles were normal, and I didn't get pregnant for 2.5 years. No reason can be given for what the problem truly was because whatever it was can't be measured by a test. All they can do is boost egg number and quality (with medications), boost sperm numbers (through IUI), and ultimately boost fertilization chances (IVF). The hope is that as you move through these interventions, you learn more about your particular set of problems and can address them.

Thanks joy , this helps. Yes, his semen analysis came back as good--we didn't do DNA fragmentation, but I've read this isn't a very great indicator. Perhaps it's something else we could look into? I've had two HSGs, one that found the septum and one I had done after. Everything looks good--clear tubes, etc. I'm sure there are other tests, but as I understand it, we've done pretty much everything they would normally do and everything looks good. They are potentially concerned over my lining, which was apparently six millimetres the last time they looked (I can't remember when they checked--day 10? Day 3?). They are going to be checking it again this weekend pre-IUI. Our timing also really sucks at times. We're both busy with work and life and I think that is part of the problem. We've tried to address it, but short of calling in sick some days, what can you do?

Your summary is bang-on. Who the eff knows why it takes as long as it does in some cases. I'm really hoping the IUIs work, but I'll also try to remember to calm down and take it one step at a time. Also, congratulations on your pregnancy!

Of course!

Don't get too caught up in timing.  You can get pregnant 5 days before ovulation to one day after.  All it takes is one time in that period to get pregnant.  Truly.

It sounds like you've done all the basic infertility testing, nothing is standing out, and here you are at unexplained.  It's a shitty place to be, as I'm sure you know!

My RE listed off some statistics for me, which I'm sure vary from RE to RE.  After 1 year with no success, our chances were less than 10% on a natural cycle, ~17% on a medicated IUI, and 50% with IVF.  My RE wouldn't do natural IUI or medicated cycles without IUI because he felt the chances were still under 10%.  But again, every RE is different in terms of those numbers.

Please don't feel hopeless yet or that IVF is inevitable.  Please!  Take all the interventions one step at a time.  ::hugs::

[icedtea]

Welcome! Everyone else has given way better advice than I could, but I'm very sorry for your losses and the frustration. I hope you find the support you need here, and I look forward to "talking."

[wildflower810]

Welcome! I hope you find a plan of action soon!

[mosdub]

I'm sorry for your losses and your struggles up to this point! I don't have any advice as far as the RE and their conflicting recommendations, but I know you're in the right place for that Welcome to the community!

[gabride2010]

Welcome to the board! I'm so sorry for your losses.

[wilmaroo]

(((Waves))) welcome!

[BurritosAtEveryMeal]

Sorry for your losses and the frustration you have now. We are a good support group here. Welcome!

[notagoddess]

Welcome! I'm sorry for your losses. I've had a septum removed too, and the goal of that was to reduce the risk of miscarriage rather than increasing the odds of conception.

I hope you find this community to be a good resource!

[lilsneezy]

Welcome! I'm sorry for your losses. I'm pretty sure the only way a RE would be able to tell if you had bad eggs is if you did IVF. You might have poor egg quality, but there's really no way to know unless someone actually retrieves and examines them. So I wouldn't assume it's an egg quality issue just yet. Best of luck on your journey!