MOTN 9/25-10/2

[melody330]

Good luck.

Ugh.

[madamewaffles]

A fell asleep at 6:30. This should be interesting.

[melody330]

Sept 25, 2016 19:46:43 GMT -5 madamewaffles said:

A fell asleep at 6:30. This should be interesting.

Yuck. Good luck. B screamed in my face until I gave up and zipped him up in the MM suit. Passed out in 30 seconds. Even though my kid is broke , that thing is magical. He went down at 8:30.

[melody330]

Guess what guys? My kid is already awake and screaming.

[katelou]

Is anyone else still dealng with an evening witching hour?

It's calmed down somewhat (although was never terrible) but she still has 2ish hours where she needs to be walked/rocked/patted/shushed while she sleeps fitfully and thrashes around. If I stop, she wakes up and cries. Hence we still have no actual bedtime. I just wait til she falls into a deeper sleep, change her diap, try to convince her to nurse, and stick her in bed. I'm over it and ready to have a bedtime routine. I feel like she's still stuck in the newborn phase.

[madamewaffles]

Sept 25, 2016 20:17:18 GMT -5 melody330 said:

Guess what guys? My kid is already awake and screaming.

Aww, I had just LT-ed your last post and then saw this one. Hope B drifts off again for you.

[jenn83]

All the hugs melody330. We are working on bedtime now. She is congested so the last couple of nights we have been up several times since her cough wakes her up

[madamewaffles]

katelou, we still have witching hour here. It's definitely lessened and not as consistent day to day, but generally from 4-6, he is pretty much inconsolable unless he's being held/rocked/walked/etc. It makes bedtime hard because he usually falls asleep Eventually while being held and sometimes he never really wakes up and then logistics of everything go out the window.

[melody330]

I don't get it. I really don't. I do all the "right" things. He doesn't nurse to sleep ever. I rock him a little and he goes down in his crib awake. All the sleeping books tell you how to get a kid to sleep but nothing tells you what to do when they won't stay asleep this young.

At a party this weekend, the first thing someone asked me was how B was sleeping at night. I had just driven a half hour with him screaming in the back seat so I was already on edge. I just cried. In front of everyone.

[rungirlrun]

Big hugs melody330. How much Zantac does he get? If he's in pain, has he outgrown his dosage? And since he's so young, I still nurse E to sleep every night. Half of our nights are terrible and half are decent so I don't think the nursing makes a difference except for getting him to sleep. When he's 4-6 months and able to be sleep trained, I'll start to phase that out. Would it be worth trying just to help with your sanity now? Correct me if I'm wrong, but do they even have sleep books for babies this young? I wouldn't think so.

[Ray]

I'm so sorry melody330. Not sleeping is one of the most difficult things to deal with, regardless of the cause, but when you add on an irate little person it makes everything that mug more difficult. I hope something can click for you guys soon. Any chance you can get away for a sleep vacation for a day?

Re: witching hour. FLint is generally fussy from 5 onward until bed. I think that may be because he's super tired though from lack of naps. Today MIL took him for a walk before lunch and he napped for 1.5hrs. Then he napped for another 1.5 at the trailer on DH and was ok this evening. Here's hoping he sleeps tonight.

[Ray]

Sept 25, 2016 20:43:59 GMT -5 rungirlrun said:

Big hugs melody330. How much Zantac does he get? If he's in pain, has he outgrown his dosage? And since he's so young, I still nurse E to sleep every night. Half of our nights are terrible and half are decent so I don't think the nursing makes a difference except for getting him to sleep. When he's 4-6 months and able to be sleep trained, I'll start to phase that out. Would it be worth trying just to help with your sanity now? Correct me if I'm wrong, but do they even have sleep books for babies this young? I wouldn't think so.

I didn't realize this is something I should stop doing at some point. Should I be not doing this? I honestly don't know how I'd get F to sleep without nursing.

What is suggested? (I'm totally ignorant about sleep training )

[melody330]

Ray once they are older, around 6-9months if they are having trouble sleeping one of the things suggested is to get rid of "sleep aids". So nursing to sleep, rocking to sleep, singing...etc. It is suppose to help them out themselves back to sleep when they wake up MOTN. But that's not until much later.

rungirlrun He gets 1 mL twice a day. I wish he would nurse to sleep. He usually burps, spits up, cries and passes out while I'm soothing him. But if I give him the boob again we start the cycle all over.
Yes, I think he's in pain and has out grown his dosage too.
There are no books for this age...but I feel like everyone is giving me advice that I'm already doing. I'm just very overwhelmed.

[icaughtfire]

((HUGS)) melody330. I know it's hard, DD was a terrible sleeper the first few months, she would just scream bloody murder for HOURS. And then one day it just clicked & she started sleeping. It's torture, and seriously one of the reasons we waited so long before TFAS, I didn't think I could do it again. FX he doesn't give you too much hell tonight.

[prvc678]

No advice, just hugs melody330. Sleep deprivation is a special kind of hell.

[rungirlrun]

I'm so sorry melody330. E was put on Zantac at 2 weeks when he weighed 8-9 lbs. He gets the same dose as B. Seeing as your son is 13ish lbs, I'd be shocked if the 1 mL was still doing much. Hopefully you can get in to see his ped soon if that's part of the problem with B's sleep. Sleep issues suck so much.

[rungirlrun]

icaughtfire random but did you ever figure out what was up with your son's poop? Hopefully things looked fine.

[icaughtfire]

Sept 25, 2016 22:10:03 GMT -5 rungirlrun said:

icaughtfire random but did you ever figure out what was up with your son's poop? Hopefully things looked fine.

UGHHHH, no. And it seems to come & go. Stool sample was negative for infection. At his 2 month appointment the pediatrician said it could be a food allergy or sensitivity but that he's too young to test for allergy. Then he said I can track what I'm eating & see if symptoms appear, but he didn't really give me much advice at pinpointing specific foods or how to eliminate foods, etc. He's not gassy, fussy, no hives/rashes, doesn't seem to have stomach discomfort, just mucusy poops & a lot of "happy spitting" so the doctor seemed pretty whatever about it. I'm not sure if I should be whatever about it? Ethan doesn't seem bother at all so...?

[prvc678]

Just laid E down for the first night in her crib. I've been putting this off for far too long so tonight was the night to rip off the bandaid. I'm set up in a makeshift bed on the floor of her room because I'm that crazy mom who doesn't want to be that far away yet. I don't know wtf is wrong with me, I wasn't like this with her sister, but maybe that's because we never co-slept (and her bedroom door was less than 5 feet from mine, so she was super close. We have since moved and the master is on the main floor and the other bedrooms are upstairs). As much as I bitch about never getting a break, you'd think I would be happy to sleep in my bed in my own room. Nope.

Wish us luck...

[mcktymck]

I've been trying to put Sam down for over two hours now. Friggin time difference. He'd fall asleep in my arms, get transferred to the pack n play, and wake up as soon as he's set down. Happened twice so I'm nursing again and hoping third time's the charm. We're all tired and have a big day tomorrow going to this big New England fair so he needs to go to sleep!

[cavewmn]

Playing replace the damn pacifier every minute or so. Or hold it in his mouth until he hits rem sleep. I love and hate the pacifier.

[melody330]

prvc678 good luck! Our bedroom is on the main floor and the boys' are upstairs. Once we got use to it, I love it. It's hard to be so "far away" in the beginning.

[melody330]

Sept 25, 2016 21:19:33 GMT -5 icaughtfire said:

((HUGS)) melody330. I know it's hard, DD was a terrible sleeper the first few months, she would just scream bloody murder for HOURS. And then one day it just clicked & she started sleeping. It's torture, and seriously one of the reasons we waited so long before TFAS, I didn't think I could do it again. FX he doesn't give you too much hell tonight.

Thanks. I hope it clicks one day soon. We waited longer than I had planned to TFAS because of DS1s sleep issues. His were so much different than B's though.

[Ray]

DH is snoring like woah right now. He's got 20mins while I breastfeed to cease and desist before I throw a pillow at him.

On a positive not F slept 5 hours and I got 4! I'm currently feeling super tired but I think maybe it was just the part of my sleep cycle I was in when I woke up.

[melody330]

Sept 25, 2016 22:07:41 GMT -5 rungirlrun said:

I'm so sorry melody330. E was put on Zantac at 2 weeks when he weighed 8-9 lbs. He gets the same dose as B. Seeing as your son is 13ish lbs, I'd be shocked if the 1 mL was still doing much. Hopefully you can get in to see his ped soon if that's part of the problem with B's sleep. Sleep issues suck so much.

I'm sure he's close to 14/15 lbs by now. I'm hoping that's the issue here. He seems to be having more reflux type symptoms again. We have his 2 month appt Wednesday.

[melody330]

First stretch was great! 10-2:45! Yes!!! I slept the whole time.

However, H is puking ATM and if he infects the rest of the house with this I'll kill him.

[Ray]

Sept 26, 2016 2:16:41 GMT -5 melody330 said:

First stretch was great! 10-2:45! Yes!!! I slept the whole time.

However, H is puking ATM and if he infects the rest of the house with this I'll kill him.

LT for the sleep, àNti-LT for YH being down with the sickness.

[littlesthobo]

Ray I nursed/bottle fed DS1 to sleep until six months when we sleep trained him. I'm currently doing the same with L.

Do what works for you, every kid is different and at this point it's about getting your kid to sleep however you can!

[katelou]

We were up every hour. I want to die. I feel like this is never going to get better.

[prvc678]

Everleigh slept for 2.5 hours in her crib, so not bad. I fed her when she woke up, and tried 3x to lay her back down again, but she was refluxing and getting really upset. So I threw in the towel and laid her down with me. Then she slept another 3 hours before waking up hourly. Overall, I'm ok with how the night went. Gotta start somewhere. I'm really looking forward to her 2 month appointment on Wed, so I can hopefully persuade the dr to give her some reflux meds.

I'm sorry for your rough night katelou. We've all been there and it's awful.