PetSquirrel, We included everything in the list that was available, generally inclusive (I don't have cable so I never thought of the TLC show or that connection), and generated a lot of likes. Also, I call my preschoolers and kids "littles" so in my head I associated it with that.
chimomma19, In the end we, the admins, will make the final decision. However, we also want to include the community in as many steps of this as possible and we love the brainstorming that's occurred. We're pretty close to the right name now (we think), but it will probably be impossible to find a name that makes everyone happy.
Yeah, I know you didn't front the name, and i lay no blame at your feet. I was just expressing shock that something, a) so offensive, b) so confusing and unclear, and c) so tied to a well known children's book/show made it past muster, in a community that generally gets it. It still floors me just how far it's leading the vote. It's like we have a core of closet P&R, glitter-barfing users, who 'forget' the Loss/IF/CLNBC communities the moment a vote goes anonymous.
*BARF*
We now return you to the regularly scheduled "Reasonable and Calm Petra".
I don't mean to pile on, and I know that the admins have a hard time making everyone happy but I honest to god don't understand who voted for The Littles Project. It's like the complete and total opposite of this board.
I liked the Stork Myth because it encompasses all - even CFNBC. I would argue that name is the most sensitive to our loss, struggling to conceive and childless groups. Unless "This is all Horseshit" is available. That has a nice ring to it too.
P.S. And yes, the Littles are cartoon characters with pointy ears.
---- 39 years old, MH is 43 TTC since 2010; Dx Unexplained Infertility; possible male factor 6 IUIs, 1 IVF, 2 FETs, 1 mmc, 1 CP Started Adoption process Feb 2015, officially waiting July 2015
theophania - Did you guys (admins) figure out whether the poll was rigged by folks from TD? I think that was mentioned yesterday that it possibly might have been...which explains the head-scratching "popularity" of The Littles Project.
---- 39 years old, MH is 43 TTC since 2010; Dx Unexplained Infertility; possible male factor 6 IUIs, 1 IVF, 2 FETs, 1 mmc, 1 CP Started Adoption process Feb 2015, officially waiting July 2015
theophania - Did you guys (admins) figure out whether the poll was rigged by folks from TD? I think that was mentioned yesterday that it possibly might have been...which explains the head-scratching "popularity" of The Littles Project.
I think that was in jest, but we can see who voted in the poll (not what they voted for, just that they voted) and it looks like mostly regular members.
I don't mean to pile on, and I know that the admins have a hard time making everyone happy but I honest to god don't understand who voted for The Littles Project. It's like the complete and total opposite of this board.
I liked the Stork Myth because it encompasses all - even CFNBC. I would argue that name is the most sensitive to our loss, struggling to conceive and childless groups. Unless "This is all Horseshit" is available. That has a nice ring to it too.
P.S. And yes, the Littles are cartoon characters with pointy ears.
A few people admitted in that thread that they voted for The Littles just because they didn't want anything snarky or stork related to win. Why they didn't just click on the not liking any option I don't understand though.
I agree, The Littles Project just doesn't work for anyone dealing with IF or loss. I think the reason that it's getting so many votes is that it's cutesy for the women that are pregnant or have "littles" at home. I just don't think it's work for the board in general.
I'm glad that so many more names have been submitted and that more votes are coming!
theophania - Did you guys (admins) figure out whether the poll was rigged by folks from TD? I think that was mentioned yesterday that it possibly might have been...which explains the head-scratching "popularity" of The Littles Project.
I think that was in jest, but we can see who voted in the poll (not what they voted for, just that they voted) and it looks like mostly regular members.
That's kind of sad. I think what is so puzzling is that there is much lip service given to how inclusive and sensitive we are to those struggling to have or accepting they will never have "littles," but an anonymous vote suggests otherwise.
I hate so much that it is diminutive, sentimental nickname for ones children. It's so .... not this board. I thought. Maybe I'm wrong.
---- 39 years old, MH is 43 TTC since 2010; Dx Unexplained Infertility; possible male factor 6 IUIs, 1 IVF, 2 FETs, 1 mmc, 1 CP Started Adoption process Feb 2015, officially waiting July 2015
I don't mean to pile on, and I know that the admins have a hard time making everyone happy but I honest to god don't understand who voted for The Littles Project. It's like the complete and total opposite of this board.
I liked the Stork Myth because it encompasses all - even CFNBC. I would argue that name is the most sensitive to our loss, struggling to conceive and childless groups. Unless "This is all Horseshit" is available. That has a nice ring to it too.
P.S. And yes, the Littles are cartoon characters with pointy ears.
The Stork Myth was my initial name suggestion, but I doubt it will be included on the next round of names either because most don't seem to like the Stork concept so we're moving away from it.
I kind of think that misses the point because the reason you would title something the "stork myth" is because you don't like the stork concept. I mean - duh.
At this point, I feel like I am belaboring the issue and being difficult, so I will totally stop. I am in awe of what you, theophania, and the other admins have set up so quickly and how invested you are to the community as a whole. Thank you for that. I'm more disappointed by the number of people who voted for that stupid name.
---- 39 years old, MH is 43 TTC since 2010; Dx Unexplained Infertility; possible male factor 6 IUIs, 1 IVF, 2 FETs, 1 mmc, 1 CP Started Adoption process Feb 2015, officially waiting July 2015
PetSquirrel, We included everything in the list that was available, generally inclusive (I don't have cable so I never thought of the TLC show or that connection), and generated a lot of likes. Also, I call mypreschoolers andkids "littles" so in my head I associated it with that.
chimomma19, In the end we, the admins, will make the final decision. However, we also want to include the community in as many steps of this as possible and we love the brainstorming that's occurred. We're pretty close to the right name now (we think), but it will probably be impossible to find a name that makes everyone happy.
I don't mean to pile on, and I know that the admins have a hard time making everyone happy but I honest to god don't understand who voted for The Littles Project. It's like the complete and total opposite of this board.
I liked the Stork Myth because it encompasses all - even CFNBC. I would argue that name is the most sensitive to our loss, struggling to conceive and childless groups. Unless "This is all Horseshit" is available. That has a nice ring to it too.
P.S. And yes, the Littles are cartoon characters with pointy ears.
A few people admitted in that thread that they voted for The Littles just because they didn't want anything snarky or stork related to win. Why they didn't just click on the not liking any option I don't understand though.
Yep. Floors me how many people admitted to voting for it because it was the better out of a bunch of choices they did not like. I noticed that none of them explained why they failed to vote for the not liking any option when they claimed to not like the "littles project" yet voted for it anyways. I'm also happy we had the choice to vote for none of the above - I was part of a rebranding where we were not given that option and the names we were given to choose from truly sucked.
theophania, thank you for giving us the update that it will not be included in the next vote. I know that you and NariaDreaming and wordsy are bending over backwards to try and include the entire community in these big decisions and that you are all doing everything you can to make sure IF, loss, and CFNBC members do not feel ignored or swept aside. We really do appreciate everything you are doing for us as you work to build this community.
I hate it and I feel like it excludes loss. Some loss ladies don't have "littles", and may never have them. You know... CFNBC. I dunno. Just rubs me the wrong way.
This I didn't really say much because I'm a very small minority (thank goodness) but reading "The Littles" brought tears to my eyes
Edit: just want to say I jumped the gun and responded before reading all the responses
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There were a lot of choices suggested in comments that felt very hurtful including the littles project. I thought I was just being sensitive. It really felt like people totally forgot about us. Thank you theophania and the rest of the admins for keeping us in mind. That said, I love everyone on this board so much that I will stick around regardless of the name.
It wasn't just you. Reading that thread is making me want to bang my head on the wall.
I trust the admins, though. I can't wait to see what they've come up with!
I hate it and I feel like it excludes loss. Some loss ladies don't have "littles", and may never have them. You know... CFNBC. I dunno. Just rubs me the wrong way.
This I didn't really say much because I'm a very small minority (thank goodness) but reading "The Littles" brought tears to my eyes
Edit: just want to say I jumped the gun and responded before reading all the responses
renegadewhit, you know, I don't **love** it as in it doesn't reach out and grab me and make me squee, but I like it fine. I like the meaning behind it the way wordsy described it, and I think (hope) that it doesn't alienate anyone, especially with the explanation of the concept provided. I think that it works for all the boards here, and I appreciate that they reached out to CFNBC to get their feedback too.
For me, the bottom line is that as long as it is not some cutesy mommyhood sort of name it doesn't matter. I don't go around thinking it or saying it IRL anyways. I tell dh I am talking to my girls, or on my forum, I never said TB or PB before to him.
renegadewhit, you know, I don't **love** it as in it doesn't reach out and grab me and make me squee, but I like it fine. I like the meaning behind it the way wordsy described it, and I think (hope) that it doesn't alienate anyone, especially with the explanation of the concept provided. I think that it works for all the boards here, and I appreciate that they reached out to CFNBC to get their feedback too.
For me, the bottom line is that as long as it is not some cutesy mommyhood sort of name it doesn't matter. I don't go around thinking it or saying it IRL anyways. I tell dh I am talking to my girls, or on my forum, I never said TB or PB before to him.
I guess that sums up my feelings too. I'm not super crazy about it, but I like it way more than The Littles Project. As long as the tagline is inclusive of all of us and conveys that love and marriage doesn't always lead to the cookie-cutter happy ending we all thought we were going to get as little girls. I also just tell my DH that I am on my support board.
Post by aswedishbee on Feb 18, 2015 22:06:07 GMT -5
I like the name. Like mlal78 I don't mention it IRL. I do feel that it encompasses much more of the overall community than a lot of the other suggestions and that's what counts IMO.
You guys would not believe how hard it is to try to find something to include so many groups of people.
I can only imagine, I would not have wanted to be in your guys shoes trying to figure that out! To reiterate, I am not saying I don't like it, just that I ddin't have that fireworks and squeeing moment when I read it.
I think it works fine for the community, and is a much more professional name for plans going forward than "littles" or "mommyhood" or anything snark related.
I also think that the majority of the community does/will love it so that is a big win.
You guys would not believe how hard it is to try to find something to include so many groups of people.
This. It's been a hell of a process, but when I saw the suggestion of Then Comes Family, it felt like putting on my favorite pair of jeans- comfortable and natural.
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
Especially after reading the explanation I think it's a good fit and MUCH better than the littles project. I am childless, infertile and a loss mom and I appreciate the admins considering all groups. MH and I are still trying to figure out what family means for us, even if it never includes a "little." Family I can do.
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At first the word family really bothered me. For lots of complex reasons both loss related and otherwise family is a very confusing and triggering word. However, after reading the explanation I find the name to be so completely perfect and beautiful! It made me want to tear up with warm fuzzies. I think when you HAVE to include that explanation somewhere on the website. It really is everything!!
P.s. Your words really gave me new feelings towards the word family.
First, (((hugs)))
And this means so much to me (and us). We knew that finding a name that did all we wanted it to do was not going to be easy, but we were determined to be inclusive.
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At first the word family really bothered me. For lots of complex reasons both loss related and otherwise family is a very confusing and triggering word. However, after reading the explanation I find the name to be so completely perfect and beautiful! It made me want to tear up with warm fuzzies. I think when you HAVE to include that explanation somewhere on the website. It really is everything!!
P.s. Your words really gave me new feelings towards the word family.
First, (((hugs)))
And this means so much to me (and us). We knew that finding a name that did all we wanted it to do was not going to be easy, but we were determined to be inclusive.
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
I like the use of the word family because to me, family is a matter of the heart, and cannot be assumed based upon genetic or traditional connection alone. A family, like a house, must be built brick by brick, cared for with love, and lots of maintenance is required to keep it strong. It does require a willingness to adapt and grow, as each individual grows and changes.
The fact that this site was built with love and member by member, is what separates us from any and all other sites.
Post by imnotfancy on Feb 18, 2015 23:39:59 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't take the time to read this entire thread... Though I read to first few posts. I think something like "The Honest... Something" or "Honestly... Something" would be descriptive for the community as a whole. But I don't like snarky or stork or littles....
Sorry, I didn't take the time to read this entire thread... Though I read to first few posts. I think something like "The Honest... Something" or "Honestly... Something" would be descriptive for the community as a whole. But I don't like snarky or stork or littles....
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Totally need to read to the end lady, or at least skip! We have moved on to discussing the new name that was announced!
Generally, I like the new option. I'll be honest, I struggled with it for about an hour until I really thought about it. Years of people expecting an announcement from us every time we say we have news of some sort...it gets old. And people do expect it. They do expect the rhyme to happen. That after marriage of course a baby will come soon after. I think, now, that the family bit is brilliant. There is no set mold of how a family will look, it's different for all of us. So yeah, I do think it could fit every single person on this board. Good job!
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