Have your voice heard-go vote!

[butlerfan]

Link to the page where they discuss the voting starting at 12:00 Eastern today. It will be up for at least 24 hours but max of 36 hours.



This is to just decide admins. What site is a future step-might be here, there or a 3rd place but please go vote so that all voices are heard.



Full disclosure-I am up for an admin position but I just want people to vote for who they think will best represent the variety of areas. My opinion has always been if you don't vote and you are able to go vote you have no right to complain for who wins so go make your voice heard!



politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/68/voting-12pm-eastern?page=1&scrollTo=12191

[ProfessorChaos]

My vote is to NOT go with that crowd.

ETA: Just me?       

[spring78]

***grad warning***

The way the meltdown played out, I have some serious reservations about following to a place run by a couple of these candidates. I am sure they are lovely women most of the time, but some things were said and done under the circumstances of the meltdown that were very disturbing to me. I have concerns about what the culture might be like at their site. I don't know where this leaves me. :-( Guess I'll have to see how the vote goes...

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 23, 2017 11:25:48 GMT -5 spring78 said:

***grad warning***

The way the meltdown played out, I have some serious reservations about following to a place run by a couple of these candidates. I am sure they are lovely women most of the time, but some things were said and done under the circumstances of the meltdown that were very disturbing to me. I have concerns about what the culture might be like at their site. I don't know where this leaves me. :-( Guess I'll have to see how the vote goes...

I feel similarly. I did not lurk all that much beforehand to "know" some of the louder voices in this whole TCF meltdown, so what limited words and actions I've witnessed haven't always made them look all that trustworthy with my concerns and needs. :\ 

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 23, 2017 9:47:11 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

My vote is to NOT go with that crowd.

ETA: Just me?       

I'm sure it's not just you lol.

I'll have extremely serious reservations depending on how things go.

[lilsneezy]

May 23, 2017 9:47:11 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

My vote is to NOT go with that crowd.

ETA: Just me?       

Nope. I also find it odd how they nominated lemonliz for an admin position when she made it clear she's undecided about leaving TCF. They know if they get her over there the rest of the IF community will likely follow. Seems a bit manipulative to me.

[bonzo2012]

May 23, 2017 13:39:00 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

May 23, 2017 9:47:11 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

My vote is to NOT go with that crowd.

ETA: Just me?       

Nope. I also find it odd how they nominated lemonliz for an admin position when she made it clear she's undecided about leaving TCF. They know if they get her over there the rest of the IF community will likely follow. Seems a bit manipulative to me.

That's true.

Man, I hate this whole situation. I hate that the events of the last week have even made this a thing.

[spring78]

May 23, 2017 13:39:00 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

May 23, 2017 9:47:11 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

My vote is to NOT go with that crowd.

ETA: Just me?       

Nope. I also find it odd how they nominated lemonliz for an admin position when she made it clear she's undecided about leaving TCF. They know if they get her over there the rest of the IF community will likely follow. Seems a bit manipulative to me.

I had not thought of it that way. Eeww. :-(

[bonzo2012]

Ballot results on admin voting:

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/100/admin-ballot-results

[butlerfan]

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/101/where-poll

the where to vote on what site we go to

lemonliz

[ProfessorChaos]

May 24, 2017 12:42:38 GMT -5 butlerfan said:

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/101/where-poll

the where to vote on what site we go to

lemonliz

And that's McBenny's site (A Place to Meet), right?

[lemonliz]

May 24, 2017 13:30:28 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

May 24, 2017 12:42:38 GMT -5 butlerfan said:

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/101/where-poll

the where to vote on what site we go to

lemonliz

And that's McBenny's site (A Place to Meet), right?

Correct. But apparently the only thing she will be doing at the new site is being a reg. No admin or mod duties. It is the preferred option, I gather, because it's already set up. 

The other option is an entirely new forum, which would take more time to set up. 

[ProfessorChaos]

May 24, 2017 13:39:45 GMT -5 lemonliz said:

May 24, 2017 13:30:28 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

And that's McBenny's site (A Place to Meet), right?

Correct. But apparently the only thing she will be doing at the new site is being a reg. No admin or mod duties. It is the preferred option, I gather, because it's already set up. 

The other option is an entirely new forum, which would take more time to set up. 

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 24, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

May 24, 2017 13:39:45 GMT -5 lemonliz said:

Correct. But apparently the only thing she will be doing at the new site is being a reg. No admin or mod duties. It is the preferred option, I gather, because it's already set up. 

The other option is an entirely new forum, which would take more time to set up. 

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

Well, from what I thiiiiink I'm reading over there right now is no. She won't have access to that stuff anymore. There's supposed to be some transfer of power to Enchanted who will then be the one with the password and email associated with the HBIC account.

I could be wrong. The thread is getting derailed over there and some outrage on both sides is starting to make me feel like the Starbucks cup debacle where something got blown way out of proportion to what actually happened, unless I missed some posts or there were more private exchanges than are mentioned therein.

I need a drink already lol.

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 24, 2017 14:55:59 GMT -5 ohinvrtedworld said:

May 24, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

Well, from what I thiiiiink I'm reading over there right now is no. She won't have access to that stuff anymore. There's supposed to be some transfer of power to Enchanted who will then be the one with the password and email associated with the HBIC account.

I could be wrong. The thread is getting derailed over there and some outrage on both sides is starting to make me feel like the Starbucks cup debacle where something got blown way out of proportion to what actually happened, unless I missed some posts or there were more private exchanges than are mentioned therein.

I need a drink already lol.

Quoting myself to say that if for some reason that wasn't possible/doesn't happen, hypothetically a separate email with no personal info is probably safe enough for whoever is in charge. That doesn't address the principle behind your concerns so I promise my intent isn't to minimize that. I can be overly logical!

[ProfessorChaos]

May 24, 2017 14:55:59 GMT -5 ohinvrtedworld said:

May 24, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

Well, from what I thiiiiink I'm reading over there right now is no. She won't have access to that stuff anymore. There's supposed to be some transfer of power to Enchanted who will then be the one with the password and email associated with the HBIC account.

I could be wrong. The thread is getting derailed over there and some outrage on both sides is starting to make me feel like the Starbucks cup debacle where something got blown way out of proportion to what actually happened, unless I missed some posts or there were more private exchanges than are mentioned therein.

I need a drink already lol.

Important question: Starbucks cups?

I opened an Odouls. Don't judge me. I could screen grab the work I'm supposed to be working on right now, and it would make sense.

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 24, 2017 15:05:08 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

May 24, 2017 14:55:59 GMT -5 ohinvrtedworld said:

Well, from what I thiiiiink I'm reading over there right now is no. She won't have access to that stuff anymore. There's supposed to be some transfer of power to Enchanted who will then be the one with the password and email associated with the HBIC account.

I could be wrong. The thread is getting derailed over there and some outrage on both sides is starting to make me feel like the Starbucks cup debacle where something got blown way out of proportion to what actually happened, unless I missed some posts or there were more private exchanges than are mentioned therein.

I need a drink already lol.

Important question: Starbucks cups?

I opened an Odouls. Don't judge me. I could screen grab the work I'm supposed to be working on right now, and it would make sense.

Lol, if I remember right at Christmas, one crazy person said the plain red SB cups were taking Jesus out of Christmas and all this stuff, and somehow that turned into the whole internet hearing that there's a huge contingent of people who were offended by the cups and everyone freaked out when in reality that wasn't actually going on.

Like, people are freaking out about someone suggesting receipts to prove that the power actually got transferred just because that poster was (I think) trying to head off drama about people not believing that it happened. (I was not concerned at all about whether Enchanted would not tell the truth or anything like that so who knows if/how many people really feel that way.) I think now people think there's a bunch of others demanding receipts, but I don't see anyone saying that. Maybe I missed it or it was private. Kind of out of control.

Enjoy your "beer"! I'm counting down when I can make a vodka soda.

[butlerfan]

May 24, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

May 24, 2017 13:39:45 GMT -5 lemonliz said:

Correct. But apparently the only thing she will be doing at the new site is being a reg. No admin or mod duties. It is the preferred option, I gather, because it's already set up. 

The other option is an entirely new forum, which would take more time to set up. 

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

Everything will transfer-she will have no more power than any other general user.  She will not have access to anything.  Everyone is getting derailed over there on the thread but she is coming across the wrong way IMO but I get why all sides are upset as well.

But no, she will not have any access of anyone's information.  If it makes people feel better-wait until the transfer has happened and then create an account.

[ProfessorChaos]

May 24, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

May 24, 2017 13:39:45 GMT -5 lemonliz said:

Correct. But apparently the only thing she will be doing at the new site is being a reg. No admin or mod duties. It is the preferred option, I gather, because it's already set up. 

The other option is an entirely new forum, which would take more time to set up. 

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

Quoting myself to address this issue. People are saying that IP addresses contain no usable information. (Is that true? I don't know.) That plus a "burner" email should be enough anonymity for even the craziest admins.

[ProfessorChaos]

Bwahahahaha. Moot point. Looks like McB wanted to prove she's crazy, so she deleted the whole thing. Her post is midway down this page, then people start saying the site has disappeared.

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/101/where-poll?page=18

I may need to actually make popcorn. 

[lemonliz]

It's back up now just FYI. I honestly can't explain what happened or why. It would take many more sangrias to understand.

[heartpresidents]

What the...

I tried to read some things over there. I don't know what just happened to the last 30 minutes of my life. I'm so confused.

[lilsneezy]

May 24, 2017 16:32:14 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

Bwahahahaha. Moot point. Looks like McB wanted to prove she's crazy, so she deleted the whole thing. Her post is midway down this page, then people start saying the site has disappeared.

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/101/where-poll?page=18

I may need to actually make popcorn. 

But wait, there's more!

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/110/all-dumb

[lillee]

May 24, 2017 20:09:28 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

May 24, 2017 16:32:14 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

Bwahahahaha. Moot point. Looks like McB wanted to prove she's crazy, so she deleted the whole thing. Her post is midway down this page, then people start saying the site has disappeared.

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/101/where-poll?page=18

I may need to actually make popcorn. 

But wait, there's more!

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/110/all-dumb

This is insane.  I don't think I'm going to move to any other forum. 

[laurensc927]

What the hell happened? We're supposed to follow someone that shit down her site because she was mad at people?!?

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 24, 2017 15:59:28 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

May 24, 2017 14:51:33 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

But, having been an admin, does that mean she will retain any magical powers that a reg won't have? I was actually reading the thread about voting to go to APTM versus elsewhere (here) bc procrastination. I only glanced at the original thread containing the interaction with W&C (too disgusted to read more than a few posts), but I gotta say I think McB is certifiably nuts, comes across as outlandishly bitchy, and I'm not sure I want her having access to any of my personal info.

I have no background knowledge of these people, so this is just my impression of reading these highly charged threads. 

Quoting myself to address this issue. People are saying that IP addresses contain no usable information. (Is that true? I don't know.) That plus a "burner" email should be enough anonymity for even the craziest admins.

Yeah IP addresses aren't that specific. I even checked mine today by googling IP address geolocation, I got 3 cities in a 30-ish mile radius, only one was correct.

[lilsneezy]

May 24, 2017 20:14:06 GMT -5 lillee said:

May 24, 2017 20:09:28 GMT -5 lilsneezy said:

But wait, there's more!

politicsorwhat.freeforums.net/thread/110/all-dumb

This is insane.  I don't think I'm going to move to any other forum. 

Yeah that sealed the deal for me.

[ProfessorChaos]

So let me just summarize some options, and lemonliz can chime in if I get anything wrong.

1. Stay here. Here may become very quiet, especially bc I think Naria is planning on changing the TOU in response to what's gone down (Can't say I blame her, but she may alienate more people). Still no way to get new members here. No good place to graduate to as PAIF is on FB.

2. APTM. Enchanted is the primary admin and seems very reasonable, but a large contingent of the usership does not. As others pointed out, this place does not have a plan to recruit new members, either.

3. The Life After Loss boards. Seems very tiny and unlikely to survive to me, but could be a calm and supportive place.

4. GBCN. A pre-existing community that we'd have to integrate into. Seems very nice, but it would be a slightly different world than our current home.

Did I miss anything? Return to TD? Hahahahaha, just kidding.

Soooooooooooooo, maybe we try staying here for now and then reconsider these options if these boards are dying off? What do people think?

[ProfessorChaos]

May 24, 2017 20:59:50 GMT -5 ohinvrtedworld said:

May 24, 2017 15:59:28 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

Quoting myself to address this issue. People are saying that IP addresses contain no usable information. (Is that true? I don't know.) That plus a "burner" email should be enough anonymity for even the craziest admins.

Yeah IP addresses aren't that specific. I even checked mine today by googling IP address geolocation, I got 3 cities in a 30-ish mile radius, only one was correct.

Mine has one dot, right where I am.

[ProfessorChaos]

May 25, 2017 8:48:19 GMT -5 ****** said:

May 25, 2017 6:19:00 GMT -5 ProfessorChaos said:

Mine has one dot, right where I am.

annnddd I'm a grandma and have no idea how to find my IP address!

whatismyipaddress.com/

Then:
www.iplocation.net/