Post by bibliothecary on Aug 11, 2016 12:48:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure what this is meant to accomplish. McBenny has her perceptions as to how things went. Others, including people who deactivated, have a different view. Those two viewpoints seem so disparate that I'm not certain there is much common ground.
McBenny, it seems like you feel that citing quotes and other threads will help others to see what you see. I don't think that will happen. You can't make others read things as you do, no matter how clear it may seem to you, and I'm sure that's frustrating.
People deactivate. They ask for their content to be deleted. Their reasons are their own. And that's fine. If this place and these people aren't what they need right now, I support them doing what they need to do in order to feel better.
Some conversation about people leaving is to be expected. Some high emotions will be felt. There's just never going to be a point where we all agree that it all went one way or another. Perception and all that. Given that we can't hold out for the moment when one view is proven correct, the best we can hope for is that the high emotions die down and we reach a level of equilibrium.
Post by Cherhorowitz on Aug 11, 2016 12:48:58 GMT -5
When BI went down, it was said that nothing would get accomplished if LSJ and Mcbenny messaged each other and talked about their shit. So why does anyone think anything productive will come from this thread when one of the parties isn't even here and neither is interested in talking it out? What's done is done. I don't see how LSJ will ever want to come back with daily dissections of everything she has ever posted. I just think everyone needs to stop. Full stop. It's stupid bickering that's not going anywhere.
McBenny , I really actually love and care for you girl, but bringing up posts from 5+ months ago to prove someone said something to make a point in your favor and that person isn't even here any more is a sign of an unhealthy relationship with a message board.
I don't mean GBTCF but maybe you need a break from this.
Listen, I'm not crazy about this thread because I don't like that LSJ isn't here to respond to what's being said. However, saying that creating the thread is a sign of something "unhealthy" is a bit much. Come on. Someone in the sitewide thread said they "don't like" her just today. To have feelings and want to address the overall situation is a normal human reaction. Do I think this particular reaction is ill-advised? Yeah. But "unhealthy relationship with a message board" is overly dramatic and not helpful, IMO.
Love it they have a limited free version. My suggestion: Get the DNA test for him to do and see how far he gets on the free version. If he loves it then buy him the subscription.
Please explain to me how it's me clinging when there was a whole conversation about me this morning when I was not even here?
Why not start a thread? there were pages in that thread about it and pages in this one.
So now that I'm like lets talk about it every one is like why are you holding on?
I think the conversation in the other thread started because of your mentions about the situation that happened earlier in the thread. I don't know I haven't been able to follow the whole thread because of work. But I will back up people who say they don't like how their friends are treated. If that's their reason for not liking you let it be.
You engage if people say something about you, that's fine. But do you just expect others to back down or not defend their positions?
I don't get it.
But it does seem like you are still holding on.
Not at all. I expect people to defend their positions. However, show it.
It's not holding on. For me, everyone has had their say. Here's mine.
You want to defend your friend to the end. Great. You want to not like me cause of your friend, that's great too.
Don't lie on me. Don't lie about our history. That's it.
I know Larry happened. Please do not try to convince me otherwise. Please don't talk to me about coffee. I don't drink it. I don't caffeine. When I state my opinion, that is me chiming in on a topic. This is not me saying you suck at life if you do or feel differently. If I want to say that, I will. If I want to speak on you, I will.
I'm not sure what this is meant to accomplish. McBenny has her perceptions as to how things went. Others, including people who deactivated, have a different view. Those two viewpoints seem so disparate that I'm not certain there is much common ground.
McBenny, it seems like you feel that citing quotes and other threads will help others to see what you see. I don't think that will happen. You can't make others read things as you do, no matter how clear it may seem to you, and I'm sure that's frustrating.
People deactivate. They ask for their content to be deleted. Their reasons are their own. And that's fine. If this place and these people aren't what they need right now, I support them doing what they need to do in order to feel better.
Some conversation about people leaving is to be expected. Some high emotions will be felt. There's just never going to be a point where we all agree that it all went one way or another. Perception and all that. Given that we can't hold out for the moment when one view is proven correct, the best we can hope for is that the high emotions die down and we reach a level of equilibrium.
I don't care why people deactivated. I really don't. I came on today into a full on conversation about she did this and she did that - so now that I say let's talk about it, it's an issue?
I cited quotes to show Jerry was grown. When we had interaction, it was back and forth. It was not big bad me going after her delicate flower self. We had exchanges. Sure I can't show it all cause it's deleted.
She is not a victim. I am not a bully. We argued. That's two people back and forth. Period over the end.
I know Larry happened. Please do not try to convince me otherwise. Please don't talk to me about coffee. I don't drink it. I don't caffeine. When I state my opinion, that is me chiming in on a topic. This is not me saying you suck at life if you do or feel differently. If I want to say that, I will. If I want to speak on you, I will.
I think the conversation in the other thread started because of your mentions about the situation that happened earlier in the thread. I don't know I haven't been able to follow the whole thread because of work. But I will back up people who say they don't like how their friends are treated. If that's their reason for not liking you let it be.
You engage if people say something about you, that's fine. But do you just expect others to back down or not defend their positions?
I don't get it.
But it does seem like you are still holding on.
Not at all. I expect people to defend their positions. However, show it.
It's not holding on. For me, everyone has had their say. Here's mine.
You want to defend your friend to the end. Great. You want to not like me cause of your friend, that's great too.
Don't lie on me. Don't lie about our history. That's it.
So you expect people to post quotes from threads to prove the history between you and LSJ? Really? To go back how many years to prove this history? when shit's been deleted and edited and had time to settle, you want to drag it all back out to prove your point?
McBenny , I really actually love and care for you girl, but bringing up posts from 5+ months ago to prove someone said something to make a point in your favor and that person isn't even here any more is a sign of an unhealthy relationship with a message board.
I don't mean GBTCF but maybe you need a break from this.
Listen, I'm not crazy about this thread because I don't like that LSJ isn't here to respond to what's being said. However, saying that creating the thread is a sign of something "unhealthy" is a bit much. Come on. Someone in the sitewide thread said they "don't like" her just today. To have feelings and want to address the overall situation is a normal human reaction. Do I think this particular reaction is ill-advised? Yeah. But "unhealthy relationship with a message board" is overly dramatic and not helpful, IMO.
I think McBenny's thread is over dramatic and not helpful.
This is not going to get her the closure that she needs regarding this issue.
And I'm not the only one seeing her acting a bit insane about shit on a message board.
I don't care why people deactivated. I really don't. I came on today into a full on conversation about she did this and she did that - so now that I say let's talk about it, it's an issue?
I cited quotes to show Jerry was grown. When we had interaction, it was back and forth. It was not big bad me going after her delicate flower self. We had exchanges. Sure I can't show it all cause it's deleted.
She is not a victim. I am not a bully. We argued. That's two people back and forth. Period over the end.
I admit that in the blinds thread I looked at the situation like you described it above (Mcbenny the big bad wolf going after LSJ delicate flower) - I don't know why, honestly. It has been said by you and others that LSJ came at you too and that you two just in general kind of went back and forth - and when I really think about it that is true but I chose for some reason that day to only see it as one way. I either didn't notice it or chose not to notice it, again not sure which.
It may not matter to you, but to me it does and it has made me think about the way I look at and interpret the things people say to others. You said you would have commented if anyone had made the same comment that LSJ did and in the Blinds thread if you'd have said that I might not have believed you but stepping back and thinking about it I get it now.
So again - I can understand why your POV as to my interaction with you in that thread is the way it is. It seemed like I was coming out of nowhere with this Mcbenny big bad wolf thing - and I guess I was. It has made me reevaluate how I view you and maybe others too.
I genuinely didn't think this was larries vs parenting.
I got the feeling it was LLC vs Mcbenny when Bint rolled in with telling mcbenny she didn't notice LLC's password changed for 4 months like she had feelings about it.
Edited to be more accurate
Oh I thought that was joking because Mcbenny just paged the Larries into the BI thread the other day to get the PW.
I got the feeling it was LLC vs Mcbenny when Bint rolled in with telling mcbenny she didn't notice LLC's password changed for 4 months like she had feelings about it.
Edited to be more accurate
Oh I thought that was joking because Mcbenny just paged the Larries into the BI thread the other day to get the PW.
Because it was very TIC. Benny wouldn't let it go and kept going on and on about it. So I guess I can see where people are getting LLC vs Mcbenny but it was super serious. It was poking fun at her because she didn't know the password had been changed for 4 months
Oh I thought that was joking because Mcbenny just paged the Larries into the BI thread the other day to get the PW.
Because it was very TIC. Benny wouldn't let it go and kept going on and on about it. So I guess I can see where people are getting LLC vs Mcbenny but it was super serious. It was poking fun at her because she didn't know the password had been changed for 4 months
I laughed. Was I not supposed to laugh? Message boarding is hard.
Because it was very TIC. Benny wouldn't let it go and kept going on and on about it. So I guess I can see where people are getting LLC vs Mcbenny but it was super serious. It was poking fun at her because she didn't know the password had been changed for 4 months
But if she's coming in hard otherwise the TIC bit loses its TIC-ness.
I think that day's particular exchange caught LSJ on a bad day and hurt her more deeply than she anticipated.
The fact that her friends are now coming at you to defend her honor is making this more painful and drawn out than it ever needed to be.
The only reason that "we" are saying anything is that it's been over a week and references are still made to the situation. McB keeps asking where pepper is?
Well maybe just stop mentioning anything to do with it.
I saw her in the thread one minute and the next her stuff was shaded like she deleted. I meant nothing by asking about her. I have no issue with her at all.
Other people asked about daisychain and I asked about pepper.
To use your words - you don't get to say how people will react
I really was just asking about her and meant nothing ill by it.
I know Larry happened. Please do not try to convince me otherwise. Please don't talk to me about coffee. I don't drink it. I don't caffeine. When I state my opinion, that is me chiming in on a topic. This is not me saying you suck at life if you do or feel differently. If I want to say that, I will. If I want to speak on you, I will.
ghostmonkey TCF Overlord- I'm pretty much unbannable
Wait is this going to be a thread where you go into all other threads and just copy all the callouts? So is frankenboom going to get a notificatino that she was quoted in a thread she never actually participated in?
This could really be amazing...
To answer your question, yes. And it is terrifying.
So what was your reaction when you saw this notification?
Not at all. I expect people to defend their positions. However, show it.
It's not holding on. For me, everyone has had their say. Here's mine.
You want to defend your friend to the end. Great. You want to not like me cause of your friend, that's great too.
Don't lie on me. Don't lie about our history. That's it.
So you expect people to post quotes from threads to prove the history between you and LSJ? Really? To go back how many years to prove this history? when shit's been deleted and edited and had time to settle, you want to drag it all back out to prove your point?
Sounds dumb to you. However, when you have random people talking about what you did to their friend and you treat people poorly, etc. Uh, yeah. It bothered me. I am human.
I also didn't edit anything. Copy and paste.
I didn't think people were blind to the fact that we have had our share of interactions, arguments, etc. Yet, the only comments I see it what was done to her, like she was this victim of a monster that just dove in on her all day.
I know Larry happened. Please do not try to convince me otherwise. Please don't talk to me about coffee. I don't drink it. I don't caffeine. When I state my opinion, that is me chiming in on a topic. This is not me saying you suck at life if you do or feel differently. If I want to say that, I will. If I want to speak on you, I will.
I know Larry happened. Please do not try to convince me otherwise. Please don't talk to me about coffee. I don't drink it. I don't caffeine. When I state my opinion, that is me chiming in on a topic. This is not me saying you suck at life if you do or feel differently. If I want to say that, I will. If I want to speak on you, I will.
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