~*~Waiting to Do Something 2/16~*~

[wanderingheart]

Good morning, ladies! I figured I'd start us out.

The Waiting to Do Something thread is posted once a week (usually on Mondays) for those of us that experience long, extended cycles. Whether it's medicated cycles, long (45ish+ days) cycles, postpartum/breastfeeding, TTA, on the bench, or something else, this is the place we gather throughout the week to discuss and vent about our slightly unique situation.

Numbers:

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA):

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ:

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? 

[physiomeg]

Numbers: cycle 7, month 9, CD2

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): long irregular cycles

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: last cycle was only 36 days and looks like I had at least an 11 day LP. I'm using the Diva cup for the first time so I'm just kind of getting used to what light/medium/heavy flow looks like. I'm so happy my cycle seems to be regulating. I hope you all don't mind if I hang out for another cycle to make sure it wasn't a fluke that my cycle is shortening up.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? I have very little shame about my music taste.the only thing I refuse to listen to is country music, and that's because I genuinely hate the sound of most songs. I guess the most "embarrassed" I feel is that I like a couple of Taylor Swift songs because I've got some of my own reasons for not loving her as an artist, but good music is good music.

[cateyes]

Numbers:30/6

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): Usually long cycles, currently in a medicated cycle

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: I did finally O! That is awesome. Blood draw at the RE's office tomorrow to make sure and check levels. I am almost slightly optimistic we could have a chance to GKU again at some point!!!

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? Anything Taylor Swift. I know so many hate her, but I love her!

FX your cycles are regulating physiomeg!

[wanderingheart]

Hang out for as long as you want physiomeg!

Numbers: CD 51, month 6, cycle 2.

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): long and irregular cycles, not ovulating.

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: Still no O Day in sight after 6 months. My OB ran bloodwork last week to determine if I had PCOS. It came back elevated, so I have a date with the vag cam Thursday morning to confirm. She of course tried to shove Clomid down my throat, but I refused. After all, the side effects are "minimal" and she would give me three months use to see "whatever happens". Uh, hell no. I've also had some annoying cramping on my right side since Thanksgiving, so I'm anxious for Thursday to see what's been going on in there. I never had cramps before going off BC, so I tried not to symptom spot too much, but it's been 3 months of this pain and I'm over it. So I guess I'm anxious/nervous/scared/eager to get an answer. Which just means I'm an emotional mess this week, haha.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? Wrecking Ball. I hate Miley, but damn if her songs aren't catchy.

[marajadeskywalker]

Good morning! It's another chilly day here, coming in at a balmy -33*C. Definitely a pj day today!

Numbers: CD 13, PP 13

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): We are TTA right now, until A is at least 18 months and walking. Today is his one year corrected bday. He was born Dec 21, but due today

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: The in laws have started asking when DH and I are going to start trying again. They just had another grandbaby born last month and were "wondering when we were going to make it an even number for them".... i just said not yet. H wasn't impressed lol and he made it known

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? I have to admit to loving Meatloaf. When I'm alone in the car I also play his albums super loud lol. Also Jimmy Buffett.... He can make H fall asleep without fail

Eta: stuff about A above

[aprilz81]

Numbers:Month 5, Cycle 3, CD 8

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): Probably still regulating post-BCP, recent dx of PCOS

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: Curious to see what my body will do this cycle, last cycle was 87 days. I delayed the start of my progesterone script due to suspected ovulation (FF faked me out). I am currently working on losing weight, increasing my activity/exercise and taking Vitamin D to see if that helps with the PCOS symptoms. If we still haven't conceived by this summer we will make an appointment with an RE. I'm looking forward to the delivery of our indoor rowing machine. It is one of the few excersises I actually LIKE to do and having one available 24/7 will be nice.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? Shake It Off by Taylor Swift and All About That Bass by Megan Trainor. Both are overplayed but so damn catchy. I normally listen to country music so I'm not as exposed to them as everyone else. lol

[marajadeskywalker]

physiomeg yay on your cycles regulating!!

Congrats on the O cateyes! Goodluck with your appointment tomorrow!

wanderingheart hopefully you get some answers soon. Not knowing is the hardest

[inwinethereistruth]

Numbers: CD 18/ 5 DPO

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): TTA for what will seem like forever (1 1/2-3 years)

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: I finally got solid crosshairs! First time ever! I think using the OPKs is what gave them to me. I had 2 + OPK days and I ovulated on the second positive day. My rant is super bratty, but a friend of our got pregnant, and I am beyond jealous since we wont even be starting TTC for like a million years. Ridiculously jealous. I even got mad at my H (like a 3 year old, seriously), and was like 'DONT TALK TO ME' for like 6 hours. Shes the first person either of us know to get pregnant since we are only 27, so its also weird to think people are adults.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? I never feel embarrassed by my choices. I am awesome and therefore, my taste in music is always awesome.

[acorn99]

Numbers:
I am 6 months PP, about 1.5 months since weaning. Those are the only number I got.


Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA):
no PPAF


Rants/Raves/NFNSQ:
I am impatiently waiting for AF to return. I would like to get in the habit of temping, but I sleep so little that I am lazy to start up again. I am thinking if still nothing has changed in March, I may get in touch with my OBGYN. With my history of irregular cycles, i may otherwise have a long wait for something to happen. Any one have any history with PP periods and how long to wait before getting things jump started? 


GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? I still get super excited every time Call Me Maybe pops up on my iPod.

[bl1210]

Numbers: CD 8; month 7

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): off BCP 8/14, dx PCOS last week, started Metformin last week

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: ready for the Metformin side effects to subside...it hasn't been a fun weekend. I'm excited to see if I will ovulate at some point on my own this cycle so I don't have to take the Provera my dr gave me last week.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to. Ha...Call Me Maybe, its so catchy!

[nuggetrn]

Numbers: Month 3, Cycle 2, CD55

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): TTA until ~September... Altho now on CD55 and I am feeling like I am going to be here for other reasons as well.

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: I am just so pissed about CD55, and mostly mad at myself that I didn't start paying attention to what my body was actually doing before now. I have had horrible awful nausea inducing cramps that come with terrible back pain ever since I first got my period. There have been times when it was so bad I was throwing up all day. When I was younger I pretty much just sucked it up. My mom never really believed it was that bad until probably after I graduated so I was basically on my own with everything. She has since apologized, stating that she never had cramps so she never realized how bad it really was for me. I have no idea what my cycle length looked like back then tho. I started birth control in June of 2012, four months before DH and I got married. It helped the cramps some, they never really went away but it was better. I only took it for about a year tho because I just got it from my PCP and she left the practice and I just never went back in. So from June of 2013 to January of 2014 I was off of BCP. Again, didn't really pay attention to cycle lengths again, just made sure I was getting my period ~every month. In Dec of 2013 I got a squinter on an FRER after I was sort of like hmmm, why haven't I gotten my period yet? I got squinters for three days and then nothing... I am assuming it was a CP but then again I have never been really sure about that. I might also be in denial about tat whole situation. I had my first ever appt with an OB in January of 2014, and started BC again that month. OB put me on the same BC I had been on before because I really never had any problems with it, sent me on my way. I took it for 6 months and then there was a hiccup with my insurance (I got a job with a Catholic institution which meant no free BCP for me) and because we were throwing around the idea of trying soon anyways we basically just decided to quit taking it and use other forms of protection.... Started tracking things in December and am really wishing that I had done more in the past now that I am at this point. I've also gained like 70 lbs in the last two years and I am sure that doesn't help things. I have been working on fixing that but it is not going so well.

Sorry for the huge wall of text... I am not usually one to rant like this but I just am so frustrated with all of this right now. Brought on also by the fact that I am praying today is going to turn into CD1 as I am having mild cramping that I can't decide if it is my ute or my bowels, back pain and I have been so so nauseated since last night. I have also eaten like crap this whole weekend and ate ice cream cake last night (I am sensitive to dairy and this all came on soon after I ate that).

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? Hmmm, I can't really think of anything at the moment for this one.

[moutonrouge]

Numbers: CD...22? Nothing happening anyway
Circumstances: TTA until my job situation is more settled, probably September
R/R/NSNFQ: We looked at more houses yesterday and I think it is slightly more definite that we'll be buying a place this summer. I think we both realized we'll have to give notice to our current landlords before we would be sold on a house, and we don't want to go month-to-month for a year. Nothing much else new, but I do think having a house will speed up our timeline.
GTKY: I'm not the least ashamed of my love of TSwift. Probably my love of the High School Musical soundtrack is my biggest shame. I have pretty eclectic tastes, though.

[Rama]

Numbers: CD12/Cycle 5/Month 10
Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): PCOS, anovulatory cycles
Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: I broke down and talked to my mom about TTC last night. I was so sure I was going to regret it because she has always been accusatory of me trying, but it actually went really well! We discussed her "fertility issues" and I disclosed that we'd seen a specialist since we've been trying for almost a year. Supposedly, she didn't get told she had PCOS, but she also doesn't remember being tested for it. I guess a lot of women in my family have had a tough time getting pregnant for the first time, but siblings don't wait as long, haha. Still, I know my mother's/grandmother's/aunts' fertility doesn't directly affect me, but it gives me some comfort to know that if I do face IF at some point, I have a history of it...and support from my mom -- something I never thought I'd be able to say. After all the times she's throw being pregnant in my face as a teenager/young adult, I never would have suspected her being supportive of me actually trying. I'm super proud and happy to say she didn't even tell me that, "It'll happen when it's meant to/it's in God's plan/when you're ready."
GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? I'm not embarrassed of anything I listen to. I like what I like and there's no shame in that.

physiomeg Definitely hang out as long as you need to!

wanderingheart Fingers crossed for some answers on Thursday. Keep us up to date!

inwinethereistruth It's hard to not get jealous of other people having what you want, but remember that her getting pregnant doesn't take a baby/pregnancy away from you! If you guys are close enough, maybe see if you can help her out as much as you can, not just because she'll definitely need it, but because you can learn a lot about what kinds of things to expect when you get around to TTC/pregnancy in "seventeen thousand years". ;P

mistabinx *high fives to another eclectic and proud musical person*

[Rama]

nuggetrn I am/was in the same boat as you re: paying attention to cycles before TTC. I didn't even so much as note it in a calendar until we started trying, so I have a woefully limited information to work with. All I have is what I remember, which may or may not be skewed after so long. *hugs* Sorry for the long cycle, hope it turns into CD1 soon.

[nuggetrn]

Feb 16, 2015 12:13:05 GMT -5 Rama said:

nuggetrn I am/was in the same boat as you re: paying attention to cycles before TTC. I didn't even so much as note it in a calendar until we started trying, so I have a woefully limited information to work with. All I have is what I remember, which may or may not be skewed after so long. *hugs* Sorry for the long cycle, hope it turns into CD1 soon.

Thanks Rama. I agree about information being skewed at this point... I have tried to think back but it is seriously impossible to do so. Not that I am really placing any blame but sometimes I feel like my mom really did me a disservice when it comes to anything cycle related. I am glad that I know what I know now and if/when I have daughters I am going to be more attentive to this area of their lives.

Ugh, just ugh. I am happy to be amongst ladies who understand at least! Thank you

[wanderingheart]

Lots of hugs nuggetrn. I'll add to the regrets of not paying attention to my cycle earlier too. My mom and I had a good cry together when I told her we were having problems, because she always thought it was weird to only get 2 periods a year, but never thought to take me to the OB until I was 22 and engaged. She feels guilty for letting this go unnoticed.

I feel semi guilty too. Like I could have known about this maybe PCOS/anovulatory cycle thing before I met MH, and I could have warned him. It's messed up, since he said it wouldn't have made a difference, but I wish I had answers before we started trying to get pregnant. Maybe it wouldn't hurt as much.

Like I said, lots of hugs to everyone who needs them today. You ladies make this whole thing easier.

[Rama]

Feb 16, 2015 12:45:23 GMT -5 wanderingheart said:

Lots of hugs nuggetrn. I'll add to the regrets of not paying attention to my cycle earlier too. My mom and I had a good cry together when I told her we were having problems, because she always thought it was weird to only get 2 periods a year, but never thought to take me to the OB until I was 22 and engaged. She feels guilty for letting this go unnoticed.

I feel semi guilty too. Like I could have known about this maybe PCOS/anovulatory cycle thing before I met MH, and I could have warned him. It's messed up, since he said it wouldn't have made a difference, but I wish I had answers before we started trying to get pregnant. Maybe it wouldn't hurt as much.

Like I said, lots of hugs to everyone who needs them today. You ladies make this whole thing easier.

This.  SO much this.

[LadyNymeria]

Numbers: CD 15, should ovulate any day now if this is a normal cycle

Circumstances: currently TTA, planning to start TTC #1 in September (hopefully earlier)

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: My temp spiked over 0.7* for 2 days this week and I can't figure out why. FF finally took away the dotted CHs it gave me after my temp came back down yesterday and today, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what caused the spike. I realize it doesn't matter since it's the overall pattern that matters, but I just can't figure out why I spiked for 2 days.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? There's nothing I'm really embarrassed to admit I like. To be embarrassed, I'd have to care what people thought of my music choices. So rather than something that "embarrasses" me, I'll re-admit my music related very UO - I love Nickelback.

[nuggetrn]

Feb 16, 2015 12:48:32 GMT -5 Rama said:

Feb 16, 2015 12:45:23 GMT -5 wanderingheart said:

I wish I had answers before we started trying to get pregnant. Maybe it wouldn't hurt as much.

Like I said, lots of hugs to everyone who needs them today. You ladies make this whole thing easier.

This.  SO much this.

I am getting to that point, but I am so so thankful that I found this place and this information before we officially started trying and so I am hoping I can get a handle on my situation before we are ready to get pregnant. I do tho still have overwhelming feelings of guilt because what if there is something wrong with me and why am I only just now figuring it out/paying attention. I am just trying to remember that all I can do at this point is move forward with the information I have now.

((hugs)) to you all, it makes it better to be able to talk this out.

[LadyNymeria]

physiomeg - FX your cycles are regulating!

cateyes - YAY for O-ing!

wanderingheart - That's ridiculous your doc tried to push Clomid on you and referred to the side effects as "minimal". It's scary OB's are not well versed in the effects of Clomid.

marajadeskywalker - That's annoying about your in-laws. Hope they leave you alone about TTC. I LOVE Jimmy Buffet too!!! I went to a few of his concerts when I was younger and I remember them being so much fun. I still listen to him a lot - especially hanging out by a pool in the summer.

nuggetrn - I hope today turns into CD1 for you.

Rama - Glad to hear the talk with your mom went well and that she didn't say anything about things happening when they're supposed to, etc. Comments like that don't help anyone so I'm glad you didn't have to deal with that.

Hugs to anyone who needs them that I may have missed. I have a hard time keeping up here on days I have off from work.

[peaseblossom55]

Numbers: Cycle 2 Month 4 CD52

Circumstances (PP/BF, Meds, TTA): off BCP after 16 years,

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: Still no AF or O as of yet. I'm really frustrated my body isn't doing anything. Not sure if this is just my body adjust after 16 years on BCP or if my body is reverting to it's pre-BCP mode where I only got my period 3-4 times a year. Since coming off BCP in November I've had only 4 days of spotting. Today I scheduled an appointment with my OB/GYN for next week to figure out what is going on. I'll be at CD60 something by then, although I'm really hoping for a clear O or a period by then.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? None really.

[Rama]

Feb 16, 2015 12:50:25 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Numbers: CD 15, should ovulate any day now if this is a normal cycle

Circumstances: currently TTA, planning to start TTC #1 in September (hopefully earlier)

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: My temp spiked over 0.7* for 2 days this week and I can't figure out why. FF finally took away the dotted CHs it gave me after my temp came back down yesterday and today, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what caused the spike. I realize it doesn't matter since it's the overall pattern that matters, but I just can't figure out why I spiked for 2 days.

GTKY: What song(s) are you embarrassed to admit you like listening to? There's nothing I'm really embarrassed to admit I like. To be embarrassed, I'd have to care what people thought of my music choices. So rather than something that "embarrasses" me, I'll re-admit my music related very UO - I love Nickelback.

Re: temp spike -- do you sleep in on the weekends?  This always makes my temperature spike.

[moutonrouge]

LadyNymeria there's a song that Nickelback covered that I think is better than the original...which is by Elton John. I'm sure that's an UO, haha.

[nuggetrn]

Apparently I am just feeling really chatty today, or I just had a really long weekend, I don't know...

I have a semi-related rant... I just found out that a very good friend of mine has been trying to get pregnant for over year and they haven't been successful. No losses, just no pregnancies. I sort of suspected they were trying because sometime last year she made a subtle comment about quitting birth control, we just haven't hung out in a setting where I feel I can bring it up to her. Her and her husband were over Saturday and we were talking in the living room while the boys were off doing something and she said something along the line of if they ever have children. This opened up the whole conversation. She is at the point where she is wanting to seek help and had questions and I talked her through some stuff and talked to her about the dangers of unmonitored clomid. Stuff I know from being a nurse and stuff I know from being on here.... I didn't bring up related to anything going on with DH and I right now because it really was not the time or place. Fine fine, the night ends really well, I am going to talk to an L&D nurse friend of mine for some recs on OBs/REs and there you go.

Then I go to the bathroom in our master bath and see an empty bottle of prenatals screeeaming at me from the trash can. My friend used that bathroom within the first 10 minutes of being in our house because her husband was in the main bathroom. I don't see any way she could have not seen those as the trashcan is directly next to the toilet.

I feel terrible that she saw those and is now probably wondering where we stand, especially because she made the comment that everyone around her is getting pregnant. I feel like I might be stressing a little unnecessarily but at the same time I just feel like a jerk.

[aprilz81]

Feb 16, 2015 12:45:23 GMT -5 wanderingheart said:

Lots of hugs nuggetrn. I'll add to the regrets of not paying attention to my cycle earlier too. My mom and I had a good cry together when I told her we were having problems, because she always thought it was weird to only get 2 periods a year, but never thought to take me to the OB until I was 22 and engaged. She feels guilty for letting this go unnoticed.

I feel semi guilty too. Like I could have known about this maybe PCOS/anovulatory cycle thing before I met MH, and I could have warned him. It's messed up, since he said it wouldn't have made a difference, but I wish I had answers before we started trying to get pregnant. Maybe it wouldn't hurt as much.

Like I said, lots of hugs to everyone who needs them today. You ladies make this whole thing easier.

When I told my Mom about my PCOS diagnosis (we're very close and share a lot of information) and told her about the symptoms she said that she would probably have qualified for the diagnosis when she was in her 20s.  She has had cysts on her ovaries and very irregular cycles and needed Clomid to get pregnant with me (but not with my younger sister).  

My mom never took me to an OB/GYN either, but at the time the symptoms started I didn't know it was a problem, I just thought "yeah no period!".  When the constant bleeding started she encouraged me to go to the doctor and then they just put me on the bill to "fix" it.  No one bothered to check into WHY this was happening.  It is very frustrating.

Try to look on the bright side.  We have ANSWERS now and with answers we can create a treatment plan with our doctors.

Hugs to everyone.  It sounds like we are all having a down start to the week.

[Rama]

Feb 16, 2015 13:24:03 GMT -5 nuggetrn said:

Apparently I am just feeling really chatty today, or I just had a really long weekend, I don't know...

I have a semi-related rant... I just found out that a very good friend of mine has been trying to get pregnant for over year and they haven't been successful. No losses, just no pregnancies. I sort of suspected they were trying because sometime last year she made a subtle comment about quitting birth control, we just haven't hung out in a setting where I feel I can bring it up to her. Her and her husband were over Saturday and we were talking in the living room while the boys were off doing something and she said something along the line of if they ever have children. This opened up the whole conversation. She is at the point where she is wanting to seek help and had questions and I talked her through some stuff and talked to her about the dangers of unmonitored clomid. Stuff I know from being a nurse and stuff I know from being on here.... I didn't bring up related to anything going on with DH and I right now because it really was not the time or place. Fine fine, the night ends really well, I am going to talk to an L&D nurse friend of mine for some recs on OBs/REs and there you go.

Then I go to the bathroom in our master bath and see an empty bottle of prenatals screeeaming at me from the trash can. My friend used that bathroom within the first 10 minutes of being in our house because her husband was in the main bathroom. I don't see any way she could have not seen those as the trashcan is directly next to the toilet.

I feel terrible that she saw those and is now probably wondering where we stand, especially because she made the comment that everyone around her is getting pregnant. I feel like I might be stressing a little unnecessarily but at the same time I just feel like a jerk.

Your friend seems to be open to talking about it -- in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she was able to open up to you because she saw that bottle.  I can understand feeling guilty, but I'll bet it was some comfort to her to know that she was talking to another TTCer, rather than a friend who might not know what she's going through.  *hugs again*

[wanderingheart]

LadyNymeria, agree. My OB and I went around and around for over 30 minutes about Clomid. I think at one point, she even said "well we give it out regularly, so it's obviously not too dangerous." She said the main thing to worry about was twins. Really?!

[nuggetrn]

Feb 16, 2015 14:09:35 GMT -5 Rama said:

Your friend seems to be open to talking about it -- in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she was able to open up to you because she saw that bottle.  I can understand feeling guilty, but I'll bet it was some comfort to her to know that she was talking to another TTCer, rather than a friend who might not know what she's going through.  *hugs again*

That is probably a good point, and does make me feel a bit better. I am hoping we will have another chance to talk soon and I will probably be a little more open with her, knowing that she probably has questions in the back of her mind about us now. She is a good enough friend that I would like to talk to her about it, I just didn't feel like the other night was an ideal time. Altho in hindsight now I really wish that I had said something at least.

[Rama]

Feb 16, 2015 14:16:23 GMT -5 nuggetrn said:

Feb 16, 2015 14:09:35 GMT -5 Rama said:

Your friend seems to be open to talking about it -- in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she was able to open up to you because she saw that bottle.  I can understand feeling guilty, but I'll bet it was some comfort to her to know that she was talking to another TTCer, rather than a friend who might not know what she's going through.  *hugs again*

That is probably a good point, and does make me feel a bit better. I am hoping we will have another chance to talk soon and I will probably be a little more open with her, knowing that she probably has questions in the back of her mind about us now. She is a good enough friend that I would like to talk to her about it, I just didn't feel like the other night was an ideal time. Altho in hindsight now I really wish that I had said something at least.

Invite her out to lunch or dinner.  Have a chill ladies night, where you don't have to worry about husbands or kids or what anyone else is saying or thinking and you can get a real, deep, heart-to-heart.  Those are the best. :)

[nuggetrn]

Feb 16, 2015 14:13:07 GMT -5 wanderingheart said:

LadyNymeria, agree. My OB and I went around and around for over 30 minutes about Clomid. I think at one point, she even said "well we give it out regularly, so it's obviously not too dangerous." She said the main thing to worry about was twins. Really?!

Ugh, this is so frustrating and I can't believe how many OBs there are out there who don't realize the dangers.

Related to my previous post, I was talking to a nurse friend about some recs for and OB/RE and I made the comment that I think my friend will probably need to start out at an OB in order to get at least a referral for an RE. I said I wanted to make sure it was an OB who wasn't going to just pass out clomid and call it day (I did prewarn my friend about this tho, so she knows to run if somebody tries this anyway)

She said "I highly doubt that OBs just pass out clomid like candy, it has some pretty serious side effects, don't you know?"

Uh, yea... and it actually happens waaaay more than you would think.